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That’d be fun yeah but uh she’s way more than Nancy she is uh got a pretty spectacular story and life and and and things to share so I hope you really enjoy it and without further Ado let’s get inside of Heather langing Camp it’s my point of VI you’re listening to
Inside of you with Mich Ros B inside of you with Michael rosenbom was not recorded in front of a live studio audience hey folks wanted to highlight something important before today’s episode in case you weren’t aware myself and many of the guests are on strike alongside sag after and wga today’s
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You know what stop upping me I want to up you on each on everything um I worked with Wes Craven three times I like how you start with that that’s perfect three times well I mean jump into that well first of all I met you at Mike Flanigan
Name dropper Mike Flanigan who’s an amazing director writer creator that Mike Mike Flanigan um he’s really good at karaoke Haunting of hillh housee Midnight Club which you were you had a big role in Midnight Club big role I mean first of all we met at a karaoke party and I was
Just kind of when I get around karaoke I get kind of you know you you were watching mine I’m sure you and your husband were like who is this guy well you’re so good at it that we really appreciate when people who are good at karaoke stand up so the people who are
Bad at karaoke can kind of relax in the background yeah it’s kind of like I want everybody to have fun so it’s important for everybody to sing Who the other guy was there the big star what’s his name from Breaking Bad Aaron Aaron Paul yes well he was he
Was petrified to sing and he got up and I made him sing and he and it was great I know my husband and I sang um Baby It’s Cold Outside which is a really hard song and I wish we had known what a tough song it was because it has a lot
Of syncopation it’s a lot of like tradeoff of the lyrics and you don’t know on the karaoke like which one is the male lyric which one is the female lyric and so we switched it which we thought was really cool it was but you know what I I do that with karaoke too
Like I will I think people like oh my God I love this song and then once they start singing they’re like oh boy I don’t have that range I can’t I don’t know they haven’t practiced and uh like Africa going to take a while to me away
From you I’m like oh my God anybody who sings those songs you’ve got to have practice at least a couple of times at home yeah you seem like you have a really good marriage like you guys are just like two PS in a pod I mean
Marriage is is a hard thing I mean it’s it’s almost like a horror movie in lots of ways you get you know you’re working through like lots of things all the time so I attribute my long lasting marriage to both of us being um we’re just really patient like when
Things aren’t going great or we have you know we we’ve had loss in our lives that was really tough and we kind of think we have this football and everyone’s allowed to kind of just pass the football off you know and then that person takes all the responsibility for
A while and then they pass it back to you and then you take over and and you’re just willing to you know you’re just willing to pick up the pieces when they all fall apart but you’re always knowing at the end of the day that where are you going nowhere
You’re going to stay right there and if you just commit to that it’s actually it’s kind of easy like once you just say there’s no other options out there I mean and you cut off all the options then you know you’re really excited to be there well my sister she had options
She’s been married four times and divorced four times uh those options weren’t always the best options but it’s like you know you got to think about that I always say like if you’re with someone and then you know some people get attracted especially actors and whatever they get attracted to someone
Else well it’s just the attraction they’re attract you know that’s the attraction it’s the physical and so they’re like okay this person has 20% of something that my partner doesn’t have but what about the other 80% that your partner has which is the important [ __ ] you know what I mean I never
Thought I’d say this but sex really isn’t that important it is but it really like it BEC it’s like you know it’s like you have sex with someone for a year five years 10 years 20 years hey it’s more about connection and being there for each other and you know right tell
Me I mean I I think you’re exactly right I mean I do think you know sex is really important but damn it um no it is but the thing I always I mean I don’t even know I can’t even comment on it because I don’t have sex with other people but
Um that’s good I imagine that it’s not all that different with other people like my what I tell myself is it isn’t the most important part of your relationship and if you were really curious and you were going to take those chances I just don’t think it would be
Worth it I don’t think it would be like you’d be like oh my God I’m so glad I experienc that because this 33 years of marriage or you know boy I can just throw that out the window for this one little tiny Adventure that’s going to
Last you know what maybe it would last a month or two it would fall apart you know it always falls apart you always I always think of my my daughter like G how would I ever like how would I ever have another holiday if if I just
Wrecked everything you know if it was if it was just something I decided to throw out the window because I I treasure all the things that come along with a long marriage which is like great family events and you you’re seeing people from both sides of the family get together
You you get to know their family really well they become your best friends so I think that the longer you’re married the more the chances of you staying are you know you know they’re better I mean because you have so many benefits of it
Yeah are you a cancer yeah I knew it I swear to God I didn’t look it up I’m a cancer I knew it what’s your birthday it’s probably June uh July 18th July 17th you’re good is it really you’re good on my mother’s life I did not look
That up congratulations it’s not here no I do exhibit all the cancerian yeah you’re a Hermit I’m a hermit I’m a nester like I love just knowing that I have a nest I can always go to and I work on it a lot and and I think family
Is like the most important thing in my life now I grew up with dysfunction so yeah everybody did well now what sucks is if I want to see my family I have to go to Indiana to see my mom I have to go
To New York to see my dad I have to go there’s all these my brethren no one talks to anybody and so I’m the single guy so I am responsible for going to see them and going to and it’s it’s hard it’s it’s hard and you you I
Always in a woman if I’m dating someone I definitely want someone who has a family someone who is not someone who’s close with their family that they’re not like me where it’s all scattered and a lot of dysfunction I look for some normaly I try to escape that sort of
Idea of chaos which I grew up with but did you did you have chaos growing up you grew up on a farm in Tulsa kind well no so we had a I mean I had a really like white person privileged upbringing I I went to you know great school in
Tulsa a little Elementary School I mean pretty much everyone was white and uh I remember it was the Vietnam War so we had some Vietnamese kids come into the class not knowing any English at all you know they were just they were refugees and they just popped into our school
They were the only people not white in our school how hard was it for them so hard and um was a very segregated Town it it still is in many ways so I grew up there but my dad who his family was like a third he was a third generation
Oklahoma and um he had a farm that was outside of town about an hour and when I was in you know Elementary School in junior high every weekend that’s just what we did and so I didn’t have a like a typical Junior High experience because while my friends they would all go
Roller skating or they did you know went out and had parties and went to movies like I just was out there and we were so you didn’t really you weren’t a social butterfly I wasn’t a social butterfly and I really like was envious of my friends and all the you know just the
Normal life they got to lead but my dad is had us in the pickup truck early Saturday and we would go out and you know we would take care of the cows and we would you know you milk cow um we didn’t have milk cows we had um you know
Beef cattle like uh herfords and so we didn’t milk house but you know you’re giving them shots and you’re taking care of them and taking them to Market was always really traumatic cuz I loved them all you know and then you’d have to take the bull or you’d have to
Take one of the cows to the market did you get emotional oh I would cry big red did you say why why does this have to happen why do we have to eat cows but I still was not a vegetarian at that time but I I knew that they were going to be
Sold for you know meat but it didn’t connect to me like I should not eat meat and so right L now I actually don’t eat meat but it’s not um yeah it’s not as a religious thing for me or a a philosophical thing I just feel like for
The planet it’s really good not to eat meat right it’s amazing how like you got into the acting thing because I know your your dad was like into oil and like worked with like administ like what the he must have said what you’re going to be an actor you’re not
Going to embarrass this family totally that was exactly his attitude no he my dad was um he was a big fish in a little Pond of Tulsa and um he was an attorney and he um yeah you know and he had a lot of stature and I think that um he wanted
Something bigger so he applied to work in the Carter Administration he had friends tried to get him a job there and he worked in the department of energy and so we moved to DC for 4 years and that was just such a mind expansive yeah
Thing and I met so I mean so many interesting people at that time of my life and at at that time I really thought I’m going to be I’m going to go into the Foreign Service I’m going to be in government I’m going to do something
Great you know uh you know in the government because it’s a fascinating place you know and everything that’s being done is really interesting so that’s what thought I was going to do and then in that summer between senior year of high school and first year of
College I had gotten into Stanford so I was like I’m just going to relax and Tulsa and just like read a lot of books and get ready to go to college and and then that’s when Francis for Copo was there making two films The Outsiders and
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I mean you just like oh my God this is incredible I just want to do this and you saw you know you saw Matt Dylan and see Thomas how and Rob low and Patrick swayy they’re all they’re all you know living this life that you just can’t
Believe that this is a a job you can’t even believe people can make a living doing it and and this was the time when you know teenagers like the whole movie industry was just geared to making movies about teenagers you know had John Hughes and everyone just wanted to make
Movie about young people and I love that it was a great time and we don’t remember that like how the focus went really to the youth during the early 80s and I mean it’s it’s not really that way anymore um no and it was real think
About it I didn’t even think about that but you’re talking about John Hughes and Francis for copel in these movies like Stand By Me that came out also those kind of movies Breakfast Club Club um Rob rer director Stand By Me yeah but like these movies where it’s coming of a
These you know real grounded stories with characters and it seems like there’s none of that and it’s all either superhero or uh or what uh I mean no I’m not saying it’s bad I’m just saying well for me I just miss that I miss that sort of it was
Nice to grow up with that and see you know kids my age and like oh my gosh look what he’s going through a Coming of Age like rights of Passage was they were always a River’s Edge what a great movie like all these movies we as teenagers were watching these
Other teenagers grapple with really hard things I mean you even had like even blue velvet like they were young people and they were thrust into like crazy situations and so that time was such a good time to be in Hollywood as a young person because there was so many great
Projects always um around you know and and so the people you know 18 1920 if you’re in Hollywood in 1982 you just you’re it’s like a feast of Incredible movies being made and um so I was like I want to be there I want to be
Part of that so I went to I went to college freshman you know in my dorm and I soon was like getting you know itchy fingers like how can I get down to LA and luckily the casting director for rumblefish and The Outsiders Janet Hinson she said come on down and I’ll
Get you some auditions and we can see and she helped me get an agent and this is without like a lot of experience this was just with my one little extra and you had not really you hadn’t done a lot of acting I mean only High School acting
Yeah in my high school plays but were you good I mean I I hope I was good she she had faith in me that’s the thing is that she had a lot of faith and she was really encouraging she let me stay at her house gosh casting
Director that’s that you never hear that and not unless it’s a man wanting to sleep with you yeah I know I was so lucky and and so that relationship really led me to getting Nightmare on Elm Street and um you know several like movies of the week
And things like that TV shows and all this stuff like it all started and it really just it happened quickly it happened really quickly I mean things when you’re young things just you know if you’re lucky I was never the kind of person that was like leaving one job to
Go fly to the next one it was always like 6 months even a year between jobs unfortunately I always felt like I was like never getting on that you know the train of like super success um and so like once I had that TV series just the
10 of us you know you just think oh something’s going to happen but it I always felt like H there’s like a roadblocker oh I something’s in the the way like I’m not it’s not flowing you know and and I often would get very demoralized and just think like okay if
Things don’t by my 25th birthday if I don’t have another part I’m just going to you know do something else I’ll go to graduate school or something and then I’d always like get something and and but Wes Craven you know meeting him literally like almost every time I
Was about to throw in the towel and quit I always got a call from Wes and it would be like I’m thinking of doing Nightmare on El Street part 3 and they’ve asked me to write the script would you be interested yeah Dream Warriors I have an idea for you to be in
It and I was like thank you Wes thank you so much and same thing happened with Wes Craven’s New Nightmare I was I just had a baby and I couldn’t get an audition to save my life I remember going out for it was like technician number three
For you know TV series about you know things that didn’t even have names like I finally told my agent if the part doesn’t have a name I don’t want to even go you know I just don’t I don’t get it because I remember watching nightmare in Elm Street and your performance was so
Like I was just talking to Michael Bean you know Michael Bean yeah and I was talking to him and I was like I remember certain actors the movie stars where their performances were so subtle and real and not trying and they just seem like a real person and when I watched
You in Nightmare it just was you brought this ground if it weren’t for you as the lead I mean Wes really knocked it out of the park because it was like if you would have got some known actress or it could have been completely but the fact that there
Is innocent girl next door kind of but real like an actor like I really felt like you weren’t trying you were just being and what a compliment thank you well I swear I mean that I think everyone thought that I think that’s why it still ranks as one of the best movies
Ever I mean nightmare El street is one of the best ever that’s why it’s right across from you and that’s not intentional Well w youo wrote such a great script because I don’t know how he had this ability but he was probably 40 at the time maybe when he did Nightmare
On Elm Street but he just had this way of getting the lingo and the way that kids talk to each other it wasn’t perfect because there were some lines I remember we rolled our eyes like oh come on Wes kids don’t talk this way but in general there was this casual back and
Forth it was really you know great that’s why he was such a good writer and a lot of his movies you can same with Dream Warriors there’s this casualness between the patients in the hospital that it’s real and and I think that’s why that movie too is so popular with
Kids I think that’s the second best one of all yeah don’t you yeah it really people aren’t trying to get out information you’re not trying and so as an actor you just you know I was as close to Nancy as I possibly could have been you know and and and I have a
Feeling Wes saw that in me and he he’s like well let’s just match this girl who seems to be just like Nancy and and we were very similar people how many how many auditions did you have for that um I think two one with Wes yeah
One just the reading and then one with Wes I mean they didn’t have a budget man they didn’t have any money so I think that it was just like we’re going to we’re going to pick 10 girls and then well will come in and he’ll pick the the
Lead it wasn’t let’s move on you know we’re not going to be labor this I remember it was only two weeks like from the first audition to getting the part but I remember but my point was about saying how grounded you were and how subtle and it just felt like a movie
Star I felt like I just like I’m I’m shocked that like the offers weren’t flooding yeah I I don’t I don’t understand that at all I do think that it wasn’t a genre that people went to go see on their own if they weren’t already fans of horror I do think my the
Audience audience was you know 16 to 24 I think all the money they made was from that age group people across the country that wasn’t uh Executives in the sea Suite I mean like I would often be told to take it off my resume like before I
Went into Parts yeah they didn’t want it there was just a big stigma still attached to being in a horror movie and nobody can really understand it now because we’ve flipped 100% but um it wasn’t something that my agents talked about you know they didn’t want
To let everybody know that this was so I mean I went out for like killer clowns from outer space like I would have auditions for genre movies because they had seen it and liked it so I did have a lot of more right that world you were but but did
You want to do that I wanted to do anything but you really just wanted act but I didn’t really want to take another horror movie part because I I’ve always known ever since that none are ever as good like there’s never as good a part
As Nancy it would just it would be hard to do that it’d be like you know having like this great meal with everything there and then you go and have a Taco Bell burrito it’s like why do that you know or it could be the second Godfather which uh some arguably will
Say the better one so I mean I would always yeah exactly and if it was a West Craven like we talked about with cursed like he he asked me to do a part in that and of course I I said yes but in in terms of being another final Girl part
Or a very similar part in a kind of a similar genre movie I never felt that that would have been an advantage and I was I I was you know interested in doing all sorts of things did you ever deal with anxiety or depression while you
Were you know in your career I mean CU like obviously you know we talk about on the podcast but did you ever deal with a time where you were like all of a sudden getting anxious about things things you were like you didn’t know why you went
To therapy did you have to deal with all that stuff or were you just old school kind of old school but I do I do recognize like when I’m having anxiety I mean I I’m the kind of person that my heart starts to beat really really fast
You know and I can really feel it like I almost think I can see my shirt you know moving with my heartbeat but I find that those feelings are coming from I mean not so much about my career much more about like I’m like getting
Older time is time is coming to an end like life doesn’t last forever like those kinds of things will give me a sense of anxiety like why am I not like forging a stronger path forward with what I want to do those are the things
That give me anxiety so in the end I always go back and think to myself well why aren’t I doing why aren’t I making that hard phone call why why aren’t I calling this person that can help me or and then I have to really you know figure that
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FDIC yeah you know they they did a study or something where they asked all these people that were on their dying beds or whatever they were old people that were just at the end of their life and and they said what do you regret and they’re
Like you know I regret that I worked too hard I regret that I cared too much I regret that I was always trying to please everybody else and not myself going my own way doing what I wanted to do and you know I think that’s so important to have other passions but you
Found a passion that you probably didn’t ever think you would get into which was effects and makeup and all these amazing things right well I mean it’s it’s interesting like I kind of think it goes back to the question of marriage that I realized that because my husband was on
The road a lot when you know early in his earlier in his career Oscar award winner yeah he’s won a couple Oscars and and he was always on the road in these really great locations like Austria or he’d be um in New York for a few months
And and and then he had this job to do Dawn of the Dead um with Zack Snyder in Toronto and um I thought to myself oh my God he’s going to go on the road again and I have these two kids and I’m going to just do this all again
And be at home alone it’s not going to be any fun and then I said why don’t I just like find a job for myself in your office like managing the budget or helping with the producers or being liaison for you so that you can just do
Dawn of the Dead which is was super challenging I me we had hundreds of zombies that he was going to be making and so we figured out um like I will work in the office I’ll do all the ordering and I’ll get all the employees
And I’ll do all of that stuff and you just design zombies and do all that and so we did that that was like two that was like the year 2000 and youo designed zombies youo designed zombies had to be fast moving zombies right the new style
Of zombies and that zombie has to look like Bert Reynolds or something yeah yeah and um so he you know having that division of labor at in his uh makeup effects Lab at that point in time um really helped him and um so I started learning everything I could about you
Know doing that job job and so we went up to Canada and I did it and I probably didn’t do a great job but at least he could do a great job and it wasn’t that I just loved special effects makeup so much it just I just didn’t want to be a
Part and have him every day going 15 hours 16 hours being on the set and so you didn’t really love it I didn’t really love it I mean I love watching him do it I love all the people that he’s working with but in terms of like
Oh my God I just love that effect no I’ve never been that person really I always thought of what I’ve read is like this is something you loved it was your passion but really it was to be to have a family like and be together wow and so that’s
Sacrifice I mean it’s also but I wasn’t nobody was calling me to for work either so um it was it was a hard time when you’re about you know gosh you know 38 an actress in La you know it’s tumble weeds sometimes it’s just nothing is
Happening so I wasn’t losing out and I was I was winning that whole time because we we all went to you know we all went to Vancouver we lived right along the lake there in a beautiful neighborhood and my kids went to school at the little elementary school and I
Went to work every day with Dave and it was and we made this incredible movie I mean Dawn of the Dead Zack sers da of the Dead I think is so good it’s amazing have you seen it Ryan what oh my gosh all the zombies so any zombie that you see
2002 or two or three whenever we made that movie are David and Anderson zombies I mean even I really feel like he created that kind of a zombie with the the deteriorated skin that looks like it’s been kind of you know three months of sort of The Walking Dead feel
Yeah way before walking dead yeah so um wow I think that was about Zack Snider wanting to create like an ultra ultra realistic zombie as if your skin had deteriorated for this entire period where you’re just looking to eat brains you know and your skin is still decomposing at the same
Rate as it would as if you were you know just laying on the ground getting eaten by maggots so that so that kind of timeline the description is very very uh thorough very that’s why you’ll see like all the the purple the oozing pus like all of that stuff you know my husband
Dave has to look at so many reference is of the most disgusting things and um do you love I like that part do you love horror um I love I love certain aspects of horror I really do love this idea that people want to be as disgusting and
Gross as possible to kind of like go into where’s the limit for that and I do think we’re reaching the limit but maybe not I mean it seems like things are grosser than they’ve ever been so I don’t know where people are going to go I think working for Ryan Murphy for six
Years on American Horror Story like let me really watch in real time how just breaking the tab taboos breaking the taboos pushing pushing pushing like what’s the grossest thing we can do like how many like really vile actions can we show on TV and shock people with certain things
Like watching that process was really fascinating from like a societal point of view and you know our society I don’t know if it’s benefiting from it but yeah they’re almost like numb to it they’re numb to it you know there’s a certain kind of person that I have met over my
Career who really loves horror and I I can’t say that they’re a type but I know when I see him it’s like I I think that horror is some kind of a um it’s a medicine for some kinds of people and I do think it makes them
Feel like they belong it’s like a it’s a it’s like a club it’s like a club it’s a club it’s a it’s a club but it’s also kind of a um it’s a Defiance of mortality like like I’m I I’m I’m vulnerable I’m weak we’re just people we
Just have skin protecting us but there’s something about watching horror that makes me feel a little bit either okay in my weakness or like somehow buffered against you know I’ve never heard that that’s awesome I mean I kind of feel like I’m in that club I think I’m in
That club too like I’m so weak I’m like such a little nothing that when I see somebody getting you know mutilated and devoured it just kind of reinforces that feeling and then I’m like but I’m still here like it’s okay I love that your husband day it’s beautiful the way you
Said it it’s just uh I I I feel the same way I I don’t know what it is I have a horror group we watch horror movies every Tuesday night it’s me and the guys and um we dissect them and we always feel like there’s not many good horror
Movies anymore and we go through so much [ __ ] where the boys always leave every night going well there’s always next week and Rotten Tomatoes say 95% and their pieces of [ __ ] so I don’t know what that’s about and we always gravitate towards going back and watch a
Return of the Living Dead or a Jaws or a nightmare in Elm Street or the ones that just stand the test of time and um they just don’t make them like they used to and they’re just like you know I thought I feel like in the 80s 70s and 80s these
Movies were well thought out like this is a good story these SE are good characters now it’s sort of how let’s do uh it just seems like it’s it’s we don’t care about character we don’t care if you like people we’re just gonna and the the best thing about nightmare now
Straight is you like these people you’re with Nancy you like her if you don’t like you movie doesn’t work so true I think yeah I mean I just don’t know if the I think the movies are being made a lot quicker than they used to be made
Exactly so that even the actors don’t even know each other that well I mean I’ve even been on sets where you don’t even know the person they just come that day and do their part and they leave and you’ve never even even had a cup of
Coffee with them you know so how are you going to have any kind of relationship on screen but also I think people don’t want to spend so much time like developing the character so even in the the latest Halloween which I really liked actually they really spent
A long time to to get us to know like these new people in the story that love love story in the beginning and and um and a lot of people complained about it like God dang it you know spending too much time we didn’t don’t care about
Those people you know so I think they’re going to die anyway you know I mean it’s kind of like people are just setting up little people to get killed and they and there’s almost like a video game quality to it like how many of these folks are
Going to die by the end of it and the kill count and everything whereas I mean a scary story actually really tries to get into your brain about what we’re really afraid of in the world yeah and I don’t I just don’t think they do that I don’t think they’re nothing’s
Scary anymore the very few movies scary everything is scary you know God I mean I was just talking to my daughter she’s really scared about her kid going to a school okay that’s scary like that’s really scary yeah so make a movie about that yeah I mean figure it out because
Nobody nobody nobody wants to be reminded that they’re real life is scary because then everyone’s really scared all the time like when remember that that game War uh the movie War games came out loved war games yeah we love that movie because we were all really
Worried want to play a game we were so worried about nuclear Annihilation thermonuclear it thermonuclear war yeah but now it doesn’t seem like they want to actually talk about what we’re really scared of um yeah I can’t believe your husband proposed to you on the set of
Pet cemetery yeah what the [ __ ] well it wasn’t on the set we went away for the weekend to the beautiful accadia National Park okay so it wasn’t on the set of pet cemetery got Fred there no my husband’s so romantic he he had you know
Bought he bought a ring you know and he was looking for a time and a place and so we went away for the weekend up to the national park and we never actually he wanted to like propose to me at Sunrise which is the first place that
The sun rises in America is at accadia National Park Cadillac Mountain what it’s the eastern most Park in America didn’t know that and um so he had this huge plan but like all plans well it didn’t come to fruition because he just couldn’t bear to wait
That long so he actually proposed to me like four hours after we’d left you know Ellsworth Maine and uh that’s where they they shot pet cemeteries in Ellsworth which did you by the way I know I’m jumping around but I’m thinking of Mike Flanigan and Midnight Club and which is
Available on Netflix did you how many times did you audition for that or he just offered you the part he just offered me the part see I mean that really picked me up out of a really I mean there’s this yeah I wasn’t in a funk but I just didn’t think
Anything like that was going to happen um so you just got a call one day or your agent said hey Mike Flanigan wants to talk to to you well yeah my manager called and said uh there’s a casting director casting director up here in vancou who contacted me um Mike Flanigan
Has a new show and they they would like to have you read this part and uh I said great you know send it over I’m thinking it’s like a one episode thing and really excited about it but then I got the sides and the opening speech of this character it was
Like one speech and you kind of get to know Dr Georgina Stanton basically um her son has died of cancer and she’s opened up a hospice for kids with cancer who are terminal and this is like it was just her opening speech where she’s welcoming
A new patient into this hospice and I um I get the I’m in I’m like literally on the 101 freeway getting off at Los virgin is Canyon Road and I decided to pull into the gas station just to read the sides cuz I had to do the audition
The next morning on my iPhone and I just wanted to like go over it in my head while I’m driving my long little windy road over Malibu Canyon so I sit there and I’m reading the sides and I just burst into tears like cuz her story is not my exact story
But I lost my son to brain cancer five years ago and so this whole this whole idea that she was this woman who’d lost her son and had decided to open a hospice for kids with cancer was something that just really struck a nerve in me and so after I you know
Cried for several minutes then I just started like memorizing the lines like okay I’m going to just get this in me and so over my windy road and then the next morning I had to get up and do an audition and it took me like I’m so bad
At home auditions but they’re terrible I just set up my lights and and uh you know get my phone and it’s like I’m trying to figure it out and I do I probably do 40 takes 40 takes went from like 8:30 in the morning when I started
And then my manager calling me at like 3:30 like where is it it needs to be in they want it by five and I’m like it’s coming it’s almost ready I almost have a good one cuz it was such a long Mike Flanigan speech oh my go and I didn’t
Want to make any mistakes I’ve talked about these Flanigan speeches with other actors that have worked with him they’re they’re not easy they do one he likes one or two takes yeah or and it’s just pushing in on you we not cutting away so it was um really nerve-wracking I didn’t
Know that about Mike when I had the monologue I just thought oh they’ve chosen a monologue for the audition and when they do that there’s just really no way to make a mistake and you have like 20 beats you know you’re trying to get out in this
Monologue and if you miss one and I’m like nope got to do it again so and like 40 takes and you got the one that you said this finally I just like this one’s it it was like 3:15 and you know you upload it you get it there and then the
Next day they’re like great they loved it okay you know know they’re going to give you contract tonight and and then I saw that it was for the series you know seven episodes you just jumping around the house screaming I was jumping around the house screaming and I could not
Believe it I couldn’t believe that my life had taken such a wonderful turn you know because I had been kind of in like this funk like what am I going to do with myself and um well someone still sees it you know I mean someone still sees it someone who’s a great he’s
Brilliant I will say Mike is brilliant and a lot of people agree and for him to say yep I I’ve see her and then her read you know you still got it I hope I mean I really I worked I worked so hard on that show because there were lots of
Monologues and I am you know of a certain age where memorizing is not as easy as it was when I was 20 so my um my daughter who lived in Vancouver at the time I I had her come over I hired her every day to go over my lines and we
Went you know I would work really really hard on them so that when I got to the set that day I knew I would do it on the first take I would never I would never expect them to have to do a second take
For me and so I I really wanted to bring that and you know working with such young actors too I just wanted to set a really good example how long would it take you to learn a monologue I would take you know it would take like
Two three full days you know of actually getting it down pat without any mistakes did it drive were you nervous while you’re doing it you’re trying to yeah I was nervous you could already imagine yourself messing up on set you know that feeling we get I just yeah oh this is
Going to happen on set I’m going to be the laughing stock that’s what goes on in our heads but I mean it’s Mike Flanigan you know too so it’s not just any any Joe Schmo director you know and he’s you know so important to our genre and and I know
That the way they work they have to work work so quickly and it’s in the pandemic so they’re they have to even work more quickly and efficiently because they have all this protocols for you know no one can be together and everyone’s shifting places all the time you’re not
Able to hang and you can’t so it’s just a totally different experience and being in the pandemic with masks and Shields and how you can’t eat together you can’t it’s very I can’t even imag Lely yeah I was on set like earlier this year on something or or late last year and you
Know that the protocols and and and it just it’s just not as fun it’s not as fun it’s not like what I always love doing and you can’t like go over and like you know kid with the focus puller and like rib him for you know screwing
Up the last take you know you can’t develop that Rapport you can’t do much with the crew and then we would just be I mean there were always oh who’s oh don’t worry about it it’s probably delivery or something um I’ve always enjoyed the relationships that I had with crew members no matter
You know what department all departments and um you know you always walk away with meeting great folks you know and that was the hardest part is not having those like opportunity to meet those folks and get to know them really well but I love that you got the opportunity
And you were able to shine you know I worked my I worked really really hard and Mike you know we didn’t know how this show the arcs of the show and he would come in he only directed the first two and then he was off working on Fall
Of the House of Usher right so unfortunately we didn’t get to hang with Mike as much as I had hoped um after make the first couple of months but I did get to get to know him I think really well and uh I just really admire I admire everything about how he’s
Approached his career and and what he does he knows what his strengths are and and he and you know he just does that you know you brought up like you got the part it just was meant to be it was a woman who lost their child and it was
Something you connected to and you were like I have to have this and you nobody knew this role better than you I mean and Mike didn’t even know that ID had that experience so oh my God that’s what was really when I finally got to meet
Him face to face I said you know you know my sonaus died of brain cancer 5 years ago and he just was like what you know and I said yeah that’s why this is so weird that we’re sitting here face to face is that there’s something else like
I really feel made this part so special for me how do you I mean look people deal with loss and you you know all my father lost my sister and my half sister passed away like two years ago and I’ve never heard him cry and to hear that was
Just devastating like whoa and you always hear that losing your child is the worst thing possibly that you can imagine and um I mean how do you how do you deal with it how do you deal with it how do you deal with it now how did you deal with it
Then yeah I I don’t even know how I did I mean I just I just knew that my my my son had this incredibly Charmed Life he had so many friends and you know he was so smart he went to Stanford he you know worked really hard and he he had the
Whole world in front of him literally and then this devastating news that he has brain cancer and so it was about 7 years before the diagnosis until he passed away and you know he never told anybody that he was sick he never let anybody know that he had this you know
This devastating diagnosis and just watching him like rally and just be there for everybody and all of his friends be there for him I kind of felt like I have to I have to follow his lead in terms of like just acknowledging that these these really horrible things just happen
And and we can’t say poor me we just can’t we just have to say you know we’re here we got to take all the advantage of it while we’re here and then when we’re not here we have to know that we’ve lived the very best life
That we could live so what I always remind myself of is is that we don’t even know what comes next right like it could be the minute that you die you’re just right there with all the people that you know have passed before you it
Could be that so you know and so I I comfort myself with that idea and then you know the sadness when it comes in and comes out you just let it wash you just let yourself be washed by it and and then you come out of it and it’s a
Process like it happens you know probably once a day I mean it’s not you break down frequently I I used to but now I just you know I have like certain little habits that I do I have little pictures that I look at or I have I have
A little Shrine that I address and talk out loud all of those things help just you realize that they’re here you know I just really feel like he is with me all the time and as as if I feel like I’m going to believe that than it is
True because belief and Truth are you know very closely related talking about them and talking about you know not just like that’s the elephant I would tell anybody who like yeah who knows somebody who’s lost somebody dear it’s like the more that that person can tell you a
Great story about them or oh remember that time when we all did this like that is like so refreshing and um the people in my life who really didn’t were painful to be around were the people who just didn’t want to go there and like they always like avoided the topic and
All I you know I would eventually avoid them because I like people who can just say oh remember when we all went on that picnic or you know he was such a good guitar player remember when he did that you know song for everybody because you
Want to hear it don’t you you want to like that’s all you’ve got is the memor so it’s all we have right and like I found a picture I went through some my dad actually also passed away last month and I I’ve been going through a lot of
His photos but you know you’ll find one you’ve never seen before and you’re like oh thank goodness I found this because it just brings back this other entire like piece of the pie of memories that might be by be gone and I’m constantly just trying to reconstitute Memories
Like okay we went to Hawaii okay that was so much fun and we went to see that waterfall okay remember we got lost and then you know we got all muddy and then it started raining and um you know you’re just constantly trying to reconstitute these really important
Memories and that also helps kind of Bol Boler your sense of security that you know you had this life you had it it was wonderful and we don’t all get to have dessert you know all year long you just sometimes get it once it’s such a honestly like a beautiful perspective
That I don’t think a lot of people have that um or can deal with I think you know it’s I think a lot of it has to do with like maturity and a certain like I don’t know what it is that you have that you have this innate sort
Of I don’t know understanding or sort of just like I I I what I’m trying to say is I couldn’t handle I couldn’t handle I don’t like you could though probably but like I’m just saying like and I’m not saying you could handle it I’m saying
That like I don’t know like I imagine if something happened I would just fall apart I guess that that’s how you probably felt you probably thought you were going to just fall apart I mean I I think I don’t know what philosophers said this but they’re like the dead
Don’t know they’re dead and the living you know you just have to manage without that person that’s your that’s you you have to figure that out for yourself why should you suffer more than you have to because that person wouldn’t want youer want you to suffer exactly and so you
Just have to figure out a new life where that person’s not going to be there every day but they really are there more than they were before because you think about say your brother like did you really think about him today or did you think about him yesterday maybe not but
If he was gone you would be thinking about him every day you’re right and and so in some ways they’re more present in your life being dead than they are sometimes being alive and that’s something that we think we all need to really contemplate is maybe I should
Think about these living people a little bit more you know because I’m thinking about the dead ones almost every day you know and maybe I’m misplacing my ability to focus and so I have like been much more reaching out to the people that I do care about I do want to make them
More of my present life because now I know well once they’re gone I I can’t do that and we all do it it’s the story that’s told over and over is like ah I wish I would have I wish I would had more time with it’s so sad and it’s like
I’m sitting here going I could easily do this more I could easily you know oh but I have this I can’t have time to make the time just [ __ ] make the time and um or I don’t I mean if you don’t really want to be around that person that’s
Also true also like be judicious and you know like there’s a you don’t need to be like great friends with millions of people you know there’re just a few people that it it really counts they’re there for you do you still keep in touch by the way with people from Nightmare
And Elm Street or any of the movies that you worked on well yeah Amanda whis is really one of my best friends and um she and I in fact we’re going to have lunch next week so we keep really close contact and then um Robert England of
Course I see him a lot at shows movie with him yeah he’s great so he’s you know he’s it makes me sad to see all of us getting so much older because I in my mind I don’t feel like I’m getting older but when we’re all together we we really
Like talk about it a lot like can you believe 40 years has gone by you know it’s like so much time but so Robert is a is a I consider him a dear friend and his wife Nancy ironically Nancy and then um I see uh J Garcia um once in a while
But when we see like Ira heyen from Nightmare 3 like we are in in touch a lot right so Tuesday night I mean she’s a good friend so Lisa Willcox is a good friend this group of nightmare actors we’ve been lucky that we’ve been thrown together a lot going around the country
To these conventions and so our friendships have really blossomed like toy newerk I mean all these people like I feel like are you know important friends and and I could call them for anything everybody’s always said like I asked around of course and they all said
She’s so nice she’s such a good person you know Heather honestly I feel like is that a curse well no it’s nice to be around people that are like good like you hear a lot of [ __ ] stories by the way was Johnny Depp a nice guy back then
Such a nice guy he was I’m sure he’s a nice guy now did you think he was going to be a big movie star honestly no way I didn’t I mean because I didn’t tell if I could not tell if he liked acting or not because he seemed kind of tortured by it
The pressure of I know that he really worked hard to be you know Glenn and he worked very hard on his part and so I couldn’t tell if he was enjoying himself frankly I mean because he was always so very dedicated and serious and you know
But you know we all joked around and cracked smiles and stuff but he was a musician he was a guitar player I knew was in a band I thought oh he’s just going to go back to that because to sit you know in a band behind a guitar and
Play music is to me seems so thrilling and like such a great thing to do to be able to play instrument like that I thought oh he’ll give this up this won’t this won’t keep him you satisfied fulfilled if you’re a great musician you’re not going to turn it all in for
Acting you know yeah were you attracted to him were you like oh he’s cute he was really cute you know he was married when he did night Street yeah he was married how old was he he was like 19 he had a wife oh my gosh and I had a really
Serious boyfriend but I mean he was gorgeous he was gorgeous right yeah gorgeous yeah wasn’t a bad angle there weren’t not a bad angle and and yet he just didn’t have that ego at all so you didn’t really he didn’t you know he didn’t draw draw your attention to him
That him himself that way whereas you know I had seen other actors like I’d been around Matt Dylan and I’d been around um you know some of those Brat Pack guys and they all had this look at me I’m so hot you know they had they had that confidence because they’d all
Become incredibly Successful by then and Johnny didn’t have that he was still like kind of finding his place and you know unsure of himself so to me that was way more attractive of course because he didn’t have that crazy ego that I think Hollywood made some pretty strong ego
Maniacs back then too I would say so who who do you get Star Struck who who were you Star Struck when you met them in your career the one anybody I mean all of them I am so Star Struck by you and everybody else out there get out of here
I am that’s my that’s my whole like Oklahoma upbringing thing I’m so I’m so Star Struck by people that my husband laughs at me because he you know Russell Crow Eddie Murphy you know Steve Carell like everyone he is working and the they makeup artist he’s working on their face
He’s right there with them and they’re Jack Lemon like they become buddies you know and um I mean he’ll say do you want to come to the set today and I’m like I’ll just make a fool of myself no you know and I you know Super Star Trek by Eddie
Murphy and Russell Crow everybody I just I just feel like they’re so and you’re just you just stand there hi hi you know and then I go I’m gonna go get some coffee and then I leave immediately like I just don’t want to have you ever asked
For an autograph um only from William Hurt I asked him for an autograph really yeah because I I really loved his acting I always um you know I just really admired him for some reason I guess it was like the big chill or something something that
Movie really affected me and I had a chance to see him and so um my friend well actually um Joan wette and I were on the the TV series just the 10 of us and we saw that William hert was like in the next dressing room like over there and
So we like let’s go get his autograph so we wrote him a note wrote him a letter like we were in the set next to his and we would love to know if we could um you know get an autograph and so he sent it back with this nice note like I’m so
Busy you know I can’t really come and meet you but um here you go here’s an autograph and so it was on a tiny little piece of paper and so we cut it in half and she has half and I have half to this
Day to this day who has the last name I do I think I have the hurt yeah yeah she has got the hurt but it was a long note it wasn’t just like an autograph it was like you are so kind to you know want to meet me
And I’m just so busy over here of course course he was lying I’m sure but um two two little girls on like a little sitcom want to go meet you know the great William oh my gosh I love that I love that you did all right this is called
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Michelle K did you have any Freddy nightm or was working on set not scary had so many Freddy nightmares the first ones were like his knives actually would cut into my face like when we were working together then later in Nightmare 3 I had this nightmare that we were on
The ship and Freddy is like in control of it and oh no Chuck Russell’s in control of the ship and all of us actors are like almost going overboard and I have to like rescue Patricia Arquette from this ship capsizing there’s a lot of symbols a lot
Of symbolism in that dream that’s crazy um Jamon Jenny met you at a horror convention with the rest of the Elm Street OG’s and you were really nice what’s the weirdest thing a fan has asked you to do there’s so many examples of that but
You know when um I mean I think like signing michet and things like that I think that’s weird but you do it or or or the knives okay cuz they’re Freddy but you know the machete it doesn’t have anything to do with Freddy right it just I sign people’s you know signing
Someone’s body for a tattoo is kind of weird I don’t like like doing that sign your signature or sign this quote I’m like do you really want to do that to yourself I wouldn’t and not with me not with my name that’s what I keep saying
Raj did you have uh do you have family or friends that question your decision to pursue an acting career if so how did how did you work through that well like we talked earlier like my dad just wasn’t that excited about it and U my mom wasn’t either but you know what I
Just I just kept doing it you know that’s the thing you loved it I just I never made excuses I just said this is what I’ve chosen to do and I’m sorry that it you know I’m not a lawyer I’m sorry you know were they proud of you
Though um yes they are very proud of me and the my dad before he died CU he was too old to kind of watch it on Netflix he doesn’t even know how to use the TV practically so he went to some party and he said that he’s like I was really
Surpris people came up to me and told me like what a good actress you were after all these years after all these years I was like thanks Dad you know thanks Dad take whatever you can get that’s what I suggest is just you know whatever morsels of encouragement
You can get take them believe me but don’t expect a lot believe me um yeah to hear anything from my dad uh yeah it just doesn’t happen Kelly ask which movie out of Elm Street series did you love filming the most well probably the first one right I think I loved
Filming I loved filming New Nightmare because I knew what other film sets were like nightmare was my first film set so I enjoyed it but I didn’t love it because I was kind of scared like the whole time like was I doing everything right you know I was really worried
Whereas New Nightmare everything was like three or four notches above the level what we did night new um Nightmare on Elm Street everything was more luxurious everything was a little better and it was fun favorite Freddy quote by the way or favorite Nancy quote Oh I mean welcome to time welcome to Prime
Time [ __ ] is the best Fredy line of all that is I also like that moment with n with h Tina where he goes Tina and she goes oh God this is God that’s so good that you that that’s sounds just like I would always do that he like shut up
That one is the most I think like iconic iconic in terms on a philosophical level like especially where Freddy’s gone in our culture that one to me is the best quote but um I also like the souls of the children make me stronger yeah or
Make me strong I don’t know ex if it’s that was Dream Warriors that was Dream Warriors um yeah and he pulls up his shirt and he has like all the little screaming faces on man you know obviously West Pastor were you guys close did you talk to him in the final
Years or any kind of conversations or not really you know I didn’t talk to him in the final year of his life and I think he had um you know he he too had brain cancer and I I do think that he probably deteriorated to a point where
His family protected him from too many relationships it’s just too exhausting but um we would exchange a lot of emails and so when he died we would talk once a year probably um but we always exchanged emails if he was there and I’d say you know what are you doing how are you
Doing I heard you you know fell off your bike or you know what god well he’s so he’s so subtle and I remember on set like him going you know we’re talking about horror movies and I’m like Amar he goes well you know that’s not real and I
Go yes it is he goes no it was it was a hole just it was made up I’m like no no it was not made up Wes and we’re taught in the rolling camera like you can’t say this to me before rolling Amar go yeah
They they made it all up no there’s the ghost they took pictur anyway he was so funny and he would always say he was so he was so like Ry I mean he was like oh yeah and he would have me like it was the second time they were filming this
Movie so you could tell Christina re she was nice but she would she didn’t want to be there nobody want to be there I wanted to be there and I was bummed no one else wanted to be there right and you know I had a small part was I just
Wanted to work with Wes but each take you go uh do it like Christopher walking do it like John malovich do it like uh Jack Nicholson do it like the guy from Sil and I went to I told this story but I went to the uh the uh the premiere for
The movie cursed and or no not the premiere the cast and crew and they were showing bloopers and it was all me and who the [ __ ] are you I go I just I came in for like three days and I’m like in all the bloopers and like yeah it’s funny isn’t
It like but it was cool he knew it was going to go on the blooper reel he was just doing it for that Jesus um by the way and we’re almost done this is you you good I’m good this has been great um
By the way I just want to know in my uh hypochondria mine um I’m thinking like I just want to know at be educated like what are signs of like are there signs of like brain cancers or like is there are there certain symptoms that all of a
Sudden you go oh I have a bad headache and you going to a doctor is is that what it is I think a bad headache I mean a lot of people have a seizure like like a a big seizure and that’s that your brain’s like firing all electricity like
Very angry that this thing is in there and so a seizure will sometimes be the one clue that people have and they go in and get a brain scan also you know if you um like suddenly your language skills like kind of take a dive or you
Start falling like there’s a lot of different ways that you can um like your balance starts to get you know off balance but headaches too I guess but it was um yeah I think there’s a million different ways unfortunately really yeah but I mean headaches are probably one of
The probably a big indicator but yeah a lot L of people don’t know you know all over your body you just don’t know what you have you know that’s the trouble we’re not going and getting cat skins and MRIs as a routine so you just don’t know that’s what’s so scary well
They had that they had that pruvo thing that I did which is a full body scan oh yeah I want to do that do it pruvo um use pruvo Michael or something it’s I didn’t get any money for this but I just I did it and they they detected
Something in my throat in my larynx that was a um it was was in the moderate risk but they wanted me to get more imaging so I went to my ENT and he looked at it he goes let’s get more imaging and I got more imaging and finally it came back
And I was I was okay oh thank goodness but I was I mean it was but that was because of you got the body scan but that was the body scan at least I I had to know and I did that they give you a die that you or something uh they gave
Me a die not in the pruvo scan that just detects uh first stage cancers everything but I think leukemia but then when I did extra Imaging they wanted to do the die so they put the die in to just kind I mean I think as the way
Medicine is going I mean it just seems like these these tests are going to be more and more available but I mean do you want to know maybe yes maybe no I don’t know I mean that’s the thing it opens the floodgates for other things well there’s a minor risk in this and
Then there’s this and then you become obsessed with it and then you’re not living you know very well but I’m not I’m not obsessed I was just worried about that I wanted to get it looked at and it was fine I forgot about all the minor things but that’s probably why
Your voice is so beautiful oh yeah do I have a good voice it’s probably that thing in your throat why don’t I get more cyst he’s got such a syic throat oh the way he talks I should be doing more voice over work yeah I know you have a
Gorgeous voice really thanks yeah a gorgeous voice in these cans they sounds nice yeah and these cans um anything going on anything next well you know our show got cancelled was really sad and so um I I just did a little part for a friend and um Mark deala he has a film
Called stab at Heaven that I got to play the mother of a of a girl who’s wrestling with her her boyfriend has or fiance has committed suicide and so it’s kind of a not an uplifting movie it’s very very philosophical and contemplative but he’s a he’s kind of a
Worldclass photographer and he’s taken his directorial Ambitions into film making soil look good it looks so great great and um but I was really nervous about it you know again you just don’t feel sometimes you just don’t feel confident and um that’s acting you sometimes it’s on sometimes it’s not
Quite there and you got to fake it yeah some you got to fake it so but I yeah that was really fun to do but I’m looking for work and um I’m looking everywhere but also too I just I feel like there’s something about it I just
Feel like I’m in this waiting mode for some reason I don’t know why but I feel like I’m waiting and I’m anticipating something to happen but like I said like I just need to pick up the phone more I think well you know I mean you just did
A whole season of a a show it didn’t get picked up for a second season but everybody knew about it Netflix Mike Flanigan he loves you you just did that it’s not like you like oh it’s been six years I know you me it was like that
Before so I wanted I want to like not let this this is a thing I don’t want to let just die on the vine I I want to see this you know create more opportunities and that’s that’s kind of where I’m sitting right now thinking what opportunities do I want because I do
Think you can ask for the opportunities you want absolutely you don’t want the ones you don’t want and there’s nothing wrong with making some calls nothing wrong with sending some emails there’s nothing wrong with that kind of stuff there’s nothing wrong with working with a first-time director if you like you
Know he’s got passion or whatever right so um yeah this has been a real treat well thank you so much for having me I really loved it I really I mean I’ve had Flanigan and um I’ve had uh Robert England and um you know yeah this is
This has been fantastic the last thing I’m going to do is afterwards I’m G to ask you to sign that if I can get the poster out I might not be able to get the poster yeah you might not well it looks like you can it’s like it doesn’t
Look like it’s it’s cheap say just say it it’s cheap say it’s a cheap frame it’s a cheap frame it’s uh most of my friend The Lost Boys is the worst but it’s the only frame I can find that would fit there yeah but you know like
All the posters are different sizes like they they’re not standardized I don’t know who made that up do you have an original uh nightmare num Street poster nope I bought it at allposters.com they’re not paying me to say that either that’s an original by the way don’t look but what does you
Mean original like original poster from like 1984 yes from the movie theater orever how do you know because you know there’s there’s way yeah there’s ways of looking at it there’s things that you could do I think that it’s all I know I know you know how many people bring me
Gloves and say this one was an original that was worn in great and then I’m like I’m so happy I so happy for you of course I would never say like yeah right oh good one yeah original huh yeah so many people gosh do you know do you know the tagline don’t
Look um if Nancy doesn’t wake up if Nancy doesn’t wake up no I forget what if Nancy doesn’t wake up screaming screaming she won’t wake up at all w at all that I mean look at that I mean you I know it’s such a great great great
Poster well that poster artist you know did all the nightmare posters and Matthew oh what’s his last name but he just uh one of the poster companies just released that poster in a much more Art House kind of you know way and um it’s beautiful but it doesn’t even capture
The colors that are on that poster which the old school posters were just amazing yeah they always yeah and they I mean they worked hard to get all the themes all the feelings of the movie you know they work that is hard yeah this guy’s a
Genius he’s a genius he’s a genius and he’s a very nice guy too um anyway I thank you for having me thank you this has been a joy a joy next time at the karaoke bar what will we sing Endless Love oo I love that song but what about
Ain’t no mountain high enough ain’t no mountain high I think after the first time we sing we’re like why are we doing this it’s one of those we’re like oh boy that that range is way out of our range what other good Duets are there from the 80s there’s like in the stre
Islands in the Stream what was the one oh no what one time of my life will I had the time of my life see he’s so much better at see I never feel like this before never found I swear here a see all right we’ve lost an audience thanks you’re awesome great Michael
Thank you man I’ll tell you I wish I was as easygo and could just handle things like she did I mean dealing with loss dealing with just uh facing adversity and just keeps going and working hard and is a wonderful human being at the same time hasn’t gotten nasty she’s not nasty you
Know people can get nasty and uh I think she’s been through it and um she knows who she is and it was a pleasure having you on the podcast Heather thank you sorry it took so long to air it but it’s here um hey just a big shout out again
The live podcast inside of you with Michael Rosen live podcast is October 11th at the Regent Theater downtown tickets are available go to Instagram my Instagram at the Michael Rosen bomb the link tree Cameo the live podcast you can get tickets they’re still for sale still
For sale Zack Levi is the guest um and all that stuff so thanks for listening I appreciate it and uh I think without further Ado we need to get into the top tiers what do you think Ryan I think that’s a great idea all right we’re
Going to read them I’m going to read them I’m going to do bad impressions of people have never done Impressions and you have to guess who the impression is and they do it fair enough Nancy D liia and Kristen little Lisa Yuka Jill e Brian e is this a Christian Bale
Character kind of that’s what I was going for Nico P Robert B Jason W Sophie M Ross C was it the prestige is that with that maybe I don’t know he always talks like this now you have to go you have to read it like that oh like what Joshua D
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Sheit Fred D Ray H tabi the T Tom n tal M Betsy D Angel M Ranna C Cory K Dev Nixon Michelle a Jeremy C yours is better Michael Kane I can’t do it Michael Kane a ruby the size of a tangerine that’s really good yeah all right you said
Jeremy C Jeremy C all right um well Brandy D Joan M Joanie B Joey M Joanie B Eugene and Leah Cory Angela F I can’t do this one but that’s a very good War Freeman you can keep doing it Mel s Christine s Eric H Shane R Andrew M
Amanda R Jen B Kevin e Stephanie k I remember the first day when Andy came to char shink Jerell jam and J lean J Luna R Mike F Stone H Kayla stay wild moonchild Brian L Kendall L Caris C Jessica B Kyle F Marisol P Kaylee J
Brian a Ashley F Maran Louise L Romeo B Veronica Q Frank B Jen T Nikki L April R Derek n j DW com bomb Ginger Insomniac Rachel d laurelai l and Melissa H guys thank you um I love you thanks to all my patrons out there patreon.com inside you if you’re still here
Listening from the Hollywood Hills in Hollywood California I’m Michael rosenbom I’m Ryan T all right little way to the camera we love you guys be good to yourself I’ll see you next week please come Back
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