Hello and welcome to the first episode of 2024 of the resters entertainment with me Marina Hyde and me Richard Osman happy New Year everybody Happy New Year may it be a wonderful one for all of you happy New Year Marina and to you Richard I we we have an exciting journey ahead
Of us this year oh my goodness can you imagine where are we going to go where aren’t we going to go where aren’t we going to go I was thinking when you talked about Star Wars Christmas in the uh the Boxing Day episode it’s a very
Good episode if you haven’t heard it I’d really like to be a wi yes I think maybe that’s what 2024 holds to me I’ve got the uh I’ve got the height for it and you know who know who knows you can wh in comprehensively oh I can wh in
Comprehensively oh yes if you’re looking for someone to wh in comprehensively it’s it’s me or Bradley but somehow still be very appealing is he 6’7 I don’t think so now today we are going to talk about things that we have loved over the last year but also that we are very much
Looking forward to in 2024 yes I thought we might start with television cuz there’s actually you know the first week uh of any new year there’s an awful lot of new stuff that comes after belter Banger after Banger no one’s going out no one can afford to
Go out and everyone is sat down waiting for the the the streamers and the channels to unleash their best fair I once did a show on Radio 2 and uh they said you can’t describe a song as a banger because uh the bosses at Radio 2
Don’t like it really yeah I had a I had a feature called unexploded bangers which was like a like a song that should a massive hit yes and no you can’t call anything a banger it’s banned on radio to the word us very seriously right well quite obviously the thing I’m most
Immediately looking forward to is traitors oh I mean season two wow the UK and US yeah traitors is the format where 12ish non-celebrities in the UK version are sequestered to a Scottish castle where they must backstab and betray each other form alliances and ultimately kind of scheme and double cross their way to
The prize some of them are traitors and some of them are the faithful and they have to do a few tasks um and then they have to sit around this round table at the end of every episode which is by far the best thing amazing onp pick those
Alliances suspect each other point the finger um indulging incredible herd behavior and it’s it’s an unbelievably brilliant format I was talking to the exact producer of it recently and uh we’re talking about the first series uh and I was saying exactly that the bit at the end when they’re around the table is
So compelling when you can tell are they cuz we at home know who the traitors are which is the absolute Genius of the format so you know you’re rooting for them or not rooting for for them and you know if the faithfuls are making a mistake or if they’re not making a
Mistake and so that Round Table can be um incredibly compelling and he said look the channel was slightly worried that that would be boring television so we put quite a lot of the you know the challenges in and you know the the kind of tests they do and actually I think
They worked out in that first series that that is all you want isible television it’s so well cast again because it’s it’s it’s not we’ll talk about the American one in the moment but the British one is people that you genuinely can root for they’re not celebrities at all they actually cast I
Remember finding out from somebody who was also involved in it that they they cast people who play a lot of those kind of strategy games they maybe as just for fun um they do Escape rooms they U do sort of tactical games so they’re kind of well versed in the double dealing and
Skull duger and all those sort of things to they they need to be a good contestant on that show so they are highly watchable and they understand the game which is sounds really obvious but it’s so important it’s all about tactics and gameplay but human beings as well
Because you get these alliances formed and if you’re a traitor you have to form an alliance with faithfuls and that people get very very close and you sort of know at some point that they’re going to have to betray oh my god I’ve watched all the all the show they’ve they then
Did a um us version of the traitors which I think is less successful because it mixes celebrities and civilians and when I say celebrities people mainly been on other reality formats but I just didn’t understand the point of that and I didn’t like that I don’t know whether
Americans feel like you have to have some people you’ve seen before I think it’s much more fun if not you don’t know who any of these people are um although John burko former Speaker of the House of Commons will be entering the US version of this show exactly that which
Would be fascinating I don’t mind the American one because as you say they’re people from American reality shows but I don’t know who they are um so there was a woman last year from below deck who was so brilliant she was called Kate she was one of the alltime reality TV
Monsters she was amazing that’s that’s a tough field yeah isn’t it justtin there’s lots of Real Housewives on this show listen I get it and it’s you know it’s a different thing we’ve said before on this podcast the absolute sinequanon of traitors is the Australian traitors season one but I think they’ve cancelled
Australian traitors why I think it wasn’t doing great business oh that’s ridiculous okay well they certainly haven’t canceled traitors in the UK because it was an unbelievable hit last year and people sort of caught on and then they caught up on catch up and it suddenly bought um and it it sort of
Became a hit right by the end and it’s presented by the absolutely wonderful Claudia winlan who does a superb job on it so that is something I’m looking forward to yeah interestingly by the way it’s that thing of the overnights used to rule television which is and the overnights were terrible for the
Traitors at first it looked like it was a flop but absolutely on catchup and on I play just everybody started watching and people were watching it like as a box set they were watching it like succession that’s something I’d like to see next year is not lots of misreporting about ratings because
Reporters have not worked out that catchup is something different to the overnights so they sometimes will look at a a TV show and say oh this did much worse than last year but in fact C it’s all being made up on catchup so it’s that can be quite deceptive catch-ups
Obviously bigger and bigger all the time it’s all catchup these days is it catch up it’s all catchup um so yeah that is starting this week also starting this week on bbc1 Gladiators is back so Gladiators is back hosted by Bradley Walsh and his son Barney uh they’re the host a whole new
Uh group of Gladiators Dan bald and the producer were saying that um they had to stop filming the first episode cuz one woman got so excited when the gles came out she went into labor her Waters broke she had to be rushed to hospital she was
In the she was was in the audience no she was one of the Gladiators oh don’t beic no she was no she was the audience she was absolutely fine a a bonny baby child I was going to say Bonny baby boy then I real I hadn’t been given that
Information has it been given a gladiator style name I wonder it’s called Blaze it’s called Blaze it’s lovely isn’t it they got some Olympians as the Gladiators uh Harry akiner is one of the fastest Runners we’ve ever had in the UK gold medalist he’s uh he’s Nitro
Uh Montel Douglas who uh has been winter Olympian and summer Olympian Sprinter and Bob Slayer she’s fire uh there is a a guy on it it who is one of Britain’s tallest bodybuilders and he’s called Giant and he is 2 in shorter than me so
Come on guys giant is a bit of a I think that’s a bit of a phoned in name but I I’ll wait to be persuaded when I’m watching yeah he might as well be called T I tell you what he should be called wook don’t you think it’s going to be me
And and and and giant uh as Wookies in the next uh in The Next Star Wars film they don’t really do Star Wars films now there’s like a million Star Wars things I’d be a Wookie but in something that no one’s ever going to watch on Disney okay
Speaking of things that will perform well Curb Your Enthusiasm the final season final season Larry David’s done a really funny press release saying I just want to go back to being a lovely person and not this Larry David character has being you can find me at Doctors Without
Borders well that I mean obviously that has changed so much TV comedy I’m I’m I will be bereft beyond belief when that disappears but we’ve got one more season to go that sort of spring that’s coming out but also season 4 of hacks ah yes which I absolutely love another HBO
Classic another HBO classic so loads of good Telly coming up this year I’d say also here’s an interesting one this week Jeopardy starts on uh on ITV daytime Jeopardy so jeopard is pretty much the biggest format ever in the states it’s run for 48 years or something ridiculous
Quiz format quiz format yeah and it’s they’ve tried it over here a few times it hasn’t worked but this time they got Steven fry hosting it in daytime he said that um he loved uh Jeopardy and he just wrote a note to his agent saying why doesn’t someone do Jeopardy in the UK
And two days later his agent said oh yeah I just talked to ITV they said they’d love you to do it you’re doing Jeopardy he like oh okay that’s uh that’s interesting but if anyone can make that show a hit I suspect it’s Steven fry but it’s one of those shows
Where pointless is the same pointless doesn’t really work anywhere else apart from the UK it’s just something about the Genesis of it and you know where it is in the schedule and um that sort of thing and Jeopardy is the same it’s not like a Rolls-Royce format but if you
Give it to a great presenter which stepen fry is maybe ITV will have a big hit on this I’m certain certainly very much looking forward to it that’s a show I would do the celebrity version of oh yeah definitely absolutely definitely I’ve got a drama which is the regime
Which is an HBO thing which is written by a guy called will Tracy who’s one of the senior writers on succession he also wrote the menu the movie The Menu I like the menu it’s fantastic it’s directed by Steven Fri The Legend and it stars Kate Winslet as the dictator in a fictional
Eastern European Republic and I think it will be absolutely it’s a limited series so it’ll be I think it’s 61 hours and I think that would be really exceptional what’s it called again the regime the regime with Kate Winslet and me as a wi
And you as a w and by the way I wanted to do my favorite things of 2023 you’re you’re you’re less interested in ranking things but I want to say my favorite television show of 2023 which we’ve not talked about before uh was Pokerface so
If anybody is a fan of Columbo you got 10 episodes of this this amazing thing when the Tasha Leon it’s sort of an homage to Columbo and the Littest hobo with like kind of a villain of the week but it’s so beautifully done it even has
The same font as Columbo so my favorite TV show 2023 was Pokerface do you have one you’re not going to do one are you you refuse to set things against each other I don’t no I don’t like ranking things I feel like I just there’s something quite sort of male about it no
Offense to anybody but it’s a I I sort of feel why can’t they all be there’s there’s lots of things I absolutely loved yeah um and I I mean obviously I loved succession I thought that was quite extraordinary two of the greatest episodes of Television that I’ve seen
Written with a funeral and the episode where Logan died was extraordinary um but there was so many things I loved um Nathan Fielder I loved Nathan for you which I only discovered this year which I strongly recommend people uh go into on you can find it I think on Amazon
Prime in the UK um but there were so many great shows so I don’t particularly want to rank them all one thing I will say is moving on to movies I think there are lots of fun things coming I obviously Ryan Gosling in the Fall Guy I
Will be there for that one ah yeah that’s going to be a cracker there’s a welcome absence of Marvel releases from my point of view even though I’m writing a show about um superhero franchises something that I have seen an advanced screening of and which is absolutely incredible which is comes out in
February is a movie called The Zone of Interest oh I’m looking forward I’m looking forward to it it is extraordinary this is directed by Jonathan Glazer who’s actually amazing person he’s only made four movies in like the last 20s something years which are um sexy beast they’re all completely different by the
Way birth Under the Skin and now this and this is about a couple who have a house that they absolutely adore she particularly loves this house and she’s she really nothing she’s a huge home improver his job is is the camp commant of ashet and the Garden Wall in this
Garden that she’s built and it’s made kind of like some ad dilit Paradise for the for their children the wall is on the other side of the wall is the ashz camp it is absolutely extraordinary as a film this I can’t recommend it enough I
Would like to talk about it more in the week of release because there’s another interesting movie which um is about the Holocaust which comes out similar time and I think it’s really worth talking about those together so we will try and do that but that’s the zone of interest
And that’s based on the on Martin amos’s novel which is Loosely based on Amazing is it okay that’s a wonderful Noel yeah it is and over to you now uh I’m looking for there’s lots of sequels this year so there is a Marvel thing which is
Deadpool 3 of course oh yes of course sorry Beverly Hills Cop is coming back on Netflix be still my Beating Heart the gerontocracy is real I mean is he 62 now Eddie Murphy yeah he can still be a cop really I thought you would have retired on police pension after three years on
No he because he loves he loves the work you know he loves catching bad guys I’m okay I I’ll watch watch it of course of course you watch it um but Gladiator 2 is coming out which is had a very interesting uh so not Gladiators uh Gladiator um so after the original one
They were immediately going to do a a sequel I think I think it slightly fell apart because Russell Crow wanted to be in it like in a sort of dream sequence and riddley Scott sightly didn’t want him to be in it so it’s it’s slightly faed uh over the years all sorts of
People have worked on scripts for it Nick Cave worked on script he did a draft of the script yes I read this uh and his draft it was called uh Christ killer uh and it was it was set it was set in Roman times but then it was also
Set in World War II and Vietnam and in present day where someone was member of the Pentagon it did not get made but it sounds like if if you honestly I bet they probably just asked him to do a draft because they thought what’s he going to come up with bet they delighted
Great un produced scripts our time it is it’s not going to be called Christ killer uh and it’s about Lucius from the original one who was the child in the original one uh played of course by Paul Mescal uh as as everything is if it hasn’t got Paul mascall in I’m not
Watching it exactly it’s that’s lucky cuz he’s in everything and I think Paramount loved him already from normal people and stuff but they went to see him in street car Named Desire and they’re quoted as saying when we heard all the whoops when he took his top off
We knew he was the man for Gladiator so Paul mescad is in it but you know it’s it’s uh I think it’s going to be great Ridley Scott’s not going to let us down it’s got an amazing cast Paul mcal Pedro Pascal is in it Connie neelson Derek
Jackob coming back um no Russell Crow of course uh but yeah I’m I’m very much looking forward to Gladiator 2 we’ll talk about it when it comes out okay and driveway dolls that’s Ethan Cohen not the Cohen Brothers but I that sounds really fun and I’m really looking for
That it sounds like a real Coen Brothers movie even though it’s not the two of them so driveway dolls I think will be fun and my favorite film of 2023 uh was Ry Lane have you seen it which is the sort of romcom set and peam
90 minutes just full of charm full of jokes brilliantly directed looks beautiful and it’s just one of those rare British movies that is just that charms absolutely everybody Ry Lane r y lane do you have a favorite film you’re not going to do you’re not going to rank
Anything way but I’ll tell you what I have a favorite star of uh 2023 which is Margo Robbie because she promoted that Barbie movie it was it’s sort of amazing this the whole story of the Barbie movie they didn’t want anyone to know the story of the movie they really were
Careful that no one found out that it had this kind of feminist text because they thought in the our culture War age it would just get completely piled on by everyone from Fox News to everyone beforehand so the stuff that happened which the leaks of the stuff which was
Deliberate when you saw them kind of in their funny outfits roller skating and and everyone’s like oh what is this crazy movie they look absolutely ridiculous and then it was such a kind of like stealth putting through and then it came out but also because she did not
Just drag that movie over the $1 billion Mark she dragged Christopher Nolan’s because movie Oppenheimer which I’m sorry I know it’s Christopher Nolan but the fact that it sprung up completely natively on Twitter people were calling it Barb and Heimer and they and they went in on all social media and they
Thought they had to see both where they they couldn’t be more different she single-handedly in my view dragged that movie Over The Line as well so hats off to you margar Robbie you are a true star yeah she’s essentially responsible for over2 billion dollars worth of uh of box
Office isn’t that amazing that’s why it’s hard to be PR sometimes because that is not something you would ever think of you wouldn’t go I’ll tell you what we’ll do with Oppenheimer why don’t we do a portmanto word with Barbie and I think that’s going to do good business
For us you if you pitch that in a room people would think you’re an absolute lunatic but it seemed to work I presume there’ll be a Barbie to in the um oh god well we’ve talked about toy movies there’s every toy yes everybody’s going to get a spin-off Oppenheimer too yeah
Love the first one yeah and on that point let’s take a little break welcome back thank you you’re most welcome Richard as you remember we were discussing our recommendations for 2024 and looking back a little at 2023 yes it’s sort of we haven’t quite worked out
The format no but I think it’s okay yeah I can tell you some I let me tell you that the theater that I’m giving you two things I’m looking forward to very much in the theater the first one Amanda is doing Doctor Strange Love On Stage Steve
Kougan is going to start and it’s written with Sean Foley um who’s absolutely a most wonderful person and he you might remember the playw what I wrote he was one of the two guys in that and I used to see these guys right from back from when they did shows in
Edinburgh he I remember one about two guys who fall down the back of the sofa and they were called it was called stop calling me Vernon and it was absolutely wonderful anyway he they are doing dror Strange Love on the London stage which I think will be a giant event and very
Funny and dark and Brilliant uh so that’s one of mine I don’t know about theater just just cuz of the leg room okay I know what I know what you mean I like the ice cream yeah very good don’t get me wrong I really like the ice cream
Ween see the Layman Trilogy that’s got that’s got two intervals uh it is long yeah it’s long but two ice creams two ice creams speaking of which I call it a two ice cream Play directed by Sam Mendes the lay and Trinity this one is also going to be
Directed by Sam Mendes it’s called The Hills of California and it’s jez Butterworth who did Jerusalem and who is obvious and actually they have worked together on the fairy man before but he that I’m really looking forward to that I think that’s going to be a big big
Event I might be doing a little theater thing this year might you yeah might be please tell us well just it’s completely secret are you allowed to say anything no okay but uh I tell you now there’ll be legram yeah and there’ll be ice cream it want to be those special big theaters
Yeah it’s called ice cream and legm ice cream and legm yeah I think it’s a lot I think it’s going to be a lot of fun myself and another writer we had a tour of one of the London theaters H and you know when you go to a nightclub during
The day it’s the most depressing place in the world but a theater during the day is kind of magical they should do tours so beautiful they’re so and and the the fact that they haven’t changed for so long and they’ve got all the little boxes under the stage I’ve I’ve
Done one myself and i’ a tour of it and it really is incredible I think they should yeah you’re right I think they should do tours of it it’s a lot more interesting than plenty of stately homes I’ve ever been to and because we were talking about doing something possibly
They they sort of had to show us everything so I I even asked where the ice creams are kept and they showed me there’s like a big trunk full of ice creams just off the bar there’s a locked room uh with a code they let us in so
That’s my theater tip for this year is go to something that does mint chalk chip it’s interesting actually with theater because regional theater we just come off the um the uh the sort of season of pantomime and pantomime is where regional theater makes almost all
Of its money you can make like kind of 25% of your money in three 3 weeks so if you haven’t been to uh your local pantoon we’ still got about 3 or 4 days left really worth doing sports loads of local people loads of local actors loads
Of local kind of crafts people and really supports your local theater and it’s very hard to explain to people though from other countries an American screenwriter was saying to me sorry pant it panta MIM what is it is it miming and I was like oh I mean I don’t know where
I start with this one but it’s a and it’s a really old sort of British tradition that I was reading some um thing from absolute ages ago in the it was a Critic in the Daily Star in 1900 said only a great nation could have done
Such a thing as invent panto only an undisciplined Nation would have done it wow that that pretty much sums sums us up I mean a 100 Years of just thinking what on Earth is this that I’m watching I always look at I always try and see who’s in panto because I find it
Interesting you can make quite a lot of money in panto you if you want of the big names they sort of you can make a qut of a million for for 3 weeks and the big companies that run it make Absolut enormous amounts of money and you sort
Of need to have a selection of the five five of the following people an actor possibly alcoholic relapsing a puppet not in this age of CGI yeah World funfa some original funfa sadly you have to have the Puppeteer as well they’re always lovely people I saw Basel brushes in two separate pantoes
This year how’s he doing it how does that work how is he doing how is brush doing if anyone can do it brush can I bet I guess someone’s got two hands my one of my favorite ones was when um Linda lardi a former patri girl who’s made that transition from you know
Playing Cinderella to the wicked Queen we all have to do that in our life and then you give an interview to the local paper saying it’s so much more fun playing a baddie anyhow she was she was once late for a panto on and she actually rang 999
And said can I use the hard shoulder and the obviously Emergency Services were’t thrilled about this and they asked the panto for a comment who said something like Miss lucardi has no comment to me which is like such Exquisite delicacy but anyway in the end Miss lardi did
Have a comment to make and she just said I was brought up to believe that is always the deadly if any celebrity starts anything with other people start to believe you know they a justifying something really bad and B you’re not want going want to go there that the
Emergency Services were here to help I did not want to disappoint the people who had turned out and I’m very surprised that they wanted to do so you know it was absolutely brilliant yeah she’s a pro lucardi absolute Pro yeah Pro something I think I think she’s been
On the point of celebrities with do a panto special and I obviously lucardi with our husband Sam Kane they’re always there Podium 2 like absolutely doing the business you also need someone in panto who can be prefaced with the phrase the hilarious yes ex and you’ve got to have
A local radio or a local TV presenter and those always get the those get the biggest laughs they’re the biggest those are a million per the biggest names in any panto you can have you know Katy Price is doing panto and Liverpool right but Justin Fletcher Mr Tumble is doing
Panto and reading and that’s that’s a big name for kids massive but the local radio presenters are people go absolutely wild for them and you got some Aussie soap star chewing like chewing a chewing a wasp because she’s not getting all the big laughs but in in
Uh in Bristol this year um David susha yeah is in panto with fate TOA from steps well that I mean that’s a combination but this is the big Hook off you see he’s Captain Hook Boy George also hook Birmingham sha Williamson the legend bar yeah Portsmouth Jennifer Saunders is at the Palladium in
London yeah that’s a highly highly competitive role this year can I test I know we weren’t really going to talk about P we’ll get back to our recomend because I have a question for you I have a quiz question for you okay so in real Jack and the Beanstalk uh Chico
Headlining of course he’s headlining you know I mean I’m I’m guessing they do Chico time yeah I’m guessing half halfway up the uh halfway up the beanock but one of the co-stars can you tell me who this is Arthur Bostrom that’s a great question it’s not an American which was considered classy
To have for a while who is Arthur Bostrom Arthur Bostrom is the policeman dressed as a je Dar in alo alo God I mean it this is this is the original long taale he’s he’s in Pinter Mame in Ru uh but that’s cool isn’t it I bet
He’s good as well he’ll be brilliant I bet he knows his business him him and Chico together yes please I bet he calls him choco for a while they had big American Stars would come over and like Hasselhoff would do it and he’d get about a million
A week but that’s kind of tapered off I they don’t make the money that they used to but it was really resourceful in the pandemic they did like Drive-In ones and um it was really and put them online it was it’s kind of like a Triumph at a
Story of Hope over experience and even though we’ve talked about big salaries F get this it’s a great money spinner for local theaters they are under pressure local theaters so is such a brilliant thing to go and do my mom never uh took us to panto when we were kids no we
Didn’t go to them either and I always wanted to I went to one I was obsessed with going but now of course you watch me go oh I see why you didn’t want to take I get I absolutely get that but oh my God I was absolutely fuming for many
Many years I never went to a panto and now my kids are too old yeah grandkids yes they’ll yeah you’ll be forcing them along yeah I need Chico and Arthur Bostrom to stick around long enough for my grandkids to 40 YouTubers I’ll just be just the T just the Tik Tok Stars 40
You chevers and the beant stalk okay can we please return to 2024 recommendations I’ve got a book which I am absolutely dying for it’s called Caledonian Road it’s by Andrew o’hagen Andrew haen is already a brilliant novelist and he has most recently adapted for the BBC mayflies but this is
A real kind of big British social novel one man’s epic Fall From Grace in contemporary London and all the different currents of of the city and of Modern Life look at the Joy on your face it what this this is it’s already been um optioned and it’s going to be made
Into a TV series it’s going to be huge and I really I think is this is is going to be an extraordinary book he’s absolutely brilliant one of the things you get as a novelist is people people send you novels early just if if you’re blurb on them and and you know sometimes
I do but I read one at the end of last year which I just thought was magnificent a debut um it’s by a guy called Johnny sweet who was a an actor and comic and writer uh and it’s it’s sort of like Donna tart meets PG
Woodhouse oh my God yes please it’s just an amazing kind of murder mystery with and his writing is just Exquisite it’s his first book I think it’s going to be absolutely massive it’s called the Kelby code I think it’s out in the spring but
It’s the Kelby code and if you if you um if you pre-order things this is what people always go why you mean pre-ordering when it comes out it’s really great for debut authors cuz the more you pre-order the more book shops Amazon it count in the first week of
Sale for them and they get on any form of chart it makes such a difference to the success of the book so it’s always worth pre-ordering anywhere you like um although you know we should always say preferably from an independent Bookshop exactly that we said before bookshop.org
You can get from any local uh Bookshop but yeah the Kelby code it’s so funny but also dark but also it’s really really really terrific I think it’s going to be huge do you have a book coming out this year uh yes I do what I
Say that it’s so i’ I’ve done the the first four Thursday Murder Club books and so next year I’m I’m doing a new um series and uh so I’m writing it at the moment and it’s is it is it ask me if it’s going well is it going well great
Not great uh not great uh but it never is at this at this stage so yes so it’s it’s a brand new series with a brand new detective Duo which quite a fun thing for me to do I’m going to bring back the Thursday Murder Club they’re they’re
Coming back but it’s quite nice having done four to to strike out and do something different but at this stage where it’s about 25 30,000 words and it’s so painful it’s so difficult books are so long it’s like it’s so crazy is it the first thing you
Think of in the morning and the last thing at night some people say that sometimes right now it is for the last month or so I’ve been kind of going fine in a dog fight with it yeah exactly but but now I’m starting to I’m starting
To panic which is the only way I can really write properly but you know that thing with homework where you do it the night before it’s due in which of course I’ve always done my whole life and with a book the night before is sort of 5 months away yeah so I’m just
Getting to the sa now it’s December I’ve got to give it in in May got to give it in yeah got hand in there we go uh and so I’m at the stage now where I’m thinking if I don’t start doing 1500 words a day every day from now then I’m
In real trouble uh and uh listen I’m trusting the process and it’s fun and there’s fun characters it’s just have no idea what they’re going to do at the moment but uh there’s murders I have a rough idea who did the murder um and yeah it’s coming out it’ll be
September unless I don’t deliver it me and the listeners will be helping you through now music I am really big into this uh Colombian American Pop Princess really kly uchis sorry kly uchis and she’s a little stal diva in waiting and well she’s she’s not really even in
Waiting anymore she’s she’s got a new album out which I think is by the very end of January the start of February and she’s a joy get into her get into her hilarious videos I’m a fan um my favorite album last year I think was the mitsky album people don’t know I love
That but the thing I’m looking forward to and again this is uh this I’m afraid is is is family business is suede and the manx Street Preachers are touring together June July I think possibly sold out everywhere they may ad dates but sued and the manx they tore together in
America because neither of them had really quite ever made it in America they’re both massive everywhere in the world uh and so you know they can go tour wherever they want and they going tour the Far East and Europe and all that but America they both almost sort
Of made it and so they teamed up and then you know they had this great tour that everyone loved but they got on so well they loved each other’s company so much that now they’re doing this big uh tour of the UK and sort of taking in
Turns to headline so the manics have decided they’re going to headline one of the Welsh gigs fair enough uh and sueded you know so it’s it’s sueded doing Sussex yeah uh but it’s um yeah I think it’s going to be an absolute cracker but it’s lovely because it comes from them
Just really getting on with each other which is such a nice thing when they’ve been in the business for that long just a group of people who just you know really get each other so did your brother like have a tour and a book and everything this year you oh yeah my my
Brother super productive yeah he is he I mean he’s really productive my brother but my brother not like you if my brother writes books as well but so books have to be about 990,000 words yeah my last book was 90,000 four words long okay cuz that’s how that’s how I
Operate my my brother is writing his new book book his last book ghost theater is out now uh and he’s he’s he’s up to about 175,000 words I think man why why do he do this to yourself but he’s got a work ethic he loves it he’s such a
Wonderful writer but yeah then he’s off on tour around the world and doing festivals everywhere and whatever you but he’s U he seems happy you know he’s he’s my older brother so I he’s on a pedestal for me he can absolutely and for all of us K just before we finish
Richard you have threatened to tell us about things that won’t be returning in 2024 can shows yes why certain shows are canceled and certain shows aren’t cancelled um so question sport was canceled at the end of last year as was doctors uh and the truth of it is a TV
Program used to just have to get ratings on a particular day so question sport would get 10 million and that’s absolutely fine and doctors would you know do the business that it did but everything now has to pay its way in three different ways it has to pay its
Way in ratings then it has to pay its way in repeatability and then it has to pay its way in international sales so question in a sport you cannot repeat because it’s sort of topical yeah it’s the truth and you can’t set it abroad because it’s there’s there’s not enough
There to sort of catch hold of so the second that question the sport you know starts dipping down to two million viewers or something it has to go whereas you know if you’re a show like what I like to that we’ve talked about before would I li to you you can sell
Everywhere in the world you can watch a 10-year-old episode of would I li to you um you know you can sell the format so happens also to do rather good ratings what I like to you but even if it wasn’t even if it was doing lower ratings it
Would come back so doctors and Father Brown which are daytime shows so doctors again it’s not really going to sell anywhere else it’s very very sh so many British actors got their amazing start on that and it is such a proven ground exactly may seem to lots of people like
What is this ridiculous show I’ve never heard of that I would never watch well it’s where a lot of people cut their teeth and learn how to basically be a TV actor yeah directors as well producers all of that it’s it was a Wonder but you
Know it’s one of those things you know the BBC has an awful lot less money than it used to have uh so some stuff has to go everything has to sing for its supper now so Father Brown which is in daytime sells everywhere in the world and
Because it’s in the 50s you can you can again you can watch an episode from 10 years ago in a way you can’t watch an episode of doctors from 10 years ago so it’s repeatable everywhere so that’s the thing you know shows have to earn their way in three different ways now ratings
Which used to be the only thing International sales and also that thing of being repeatable you know if you look at all of the cable channels you know they’re showing stuff back to you know they even show old Pointes and stuff like that on cable channels but if you
Can’t do that you know it’s why mock the week was cancelled because it’s expensive cuz you’re doing one a week and the most expensive thing in a TV show is the studio yeah and if you’re only doing one show in the studio that’s a you’re paying for a whole day and
You’re only getting one show out of it uh and it’s very very difficult to repeat it anywhere because there’s nothing worse than watching a six-year-old mock the week and it’s pre-brexit and you know and you know everyone’s Furious Nick CLE uh and you know it’s it’s it’s too bizarre so yeah
That’s why question of sport and doctors are going and other shows are continuing but expect to see an awful lot more of that in 2024 the BBC is pretty much run out of money all those midlevel programs are sort of done the shows they do have
Have been going for years and years and years so Bargain Hunt has been going for 23 years homes under the hammer 20 years escaped to the country 20 years come dime with me which you just mentioned is you know 18 years it’s those are the shows are going to keep going cuz
They’re they’re building this you know they’re building a library there and new shows it’s too expensive to launch new things with the money they’ve got so we’re going to have the same old shows for quite a long time and those more topical shows will be dropping by the
Wayside and actually even on um sort of big us shows and and streaming shows I think they thought that before we went into the writers and the actor strike there were it’s to this is Peak TV there were 600 scripted shows and I think it
Will come and most people I speak to in the industry think it will come now down to 300 so that is half as many so your era of like not being able to watch all the TV but in a million miles is is going away um and I think you know that
We’re going to see such a big correction on that and the interesting thing that all the networks and the streamers are all asking for is what they call hard comedy and what they mean by that is not tough comedy they mean by absolute just straight down the line comedy friend the
Office just these big shows that you know Two and a Half Men that sustained them for years Big Bang Theory they need to get those shows back these absolute massive barnstorming comedy shows which no one’s wanted to write for years there was a good exec who said all the there
Was a good Agent who said all of my writers they don’t want to write Two and a Half Men they want to write Barry but he said you know who watches Barry no one you know so it’s it’s that they’ve got to get audiences back to Big mainstream comedies they call it hard
Comedy so you know we shall see good time to pitch a hard comedy and on that note thank you so much for listening to another episode of the rest is entertainment we will be back with you next week Richard thank you very much thank you Marina we’ll be back next week
With more hard comedy I’m off to be a wi uh I’ll see you next week okay take care bye-bye bye
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