You know Jeff I I don’t disagree with you that’s why kindergarten has teachers you don’t let these kids go off into the wild right uh that’s as teacher I just thought of that I think it’s pretty good again tickled my chin that was good okay so first of all thanks for
Joining us here on the podcast what I’m wondering about is what do you do when you have a situation where people say the action could be fine and the response was fine or the action was Dumb and the response was dumb or the action was dumb but the response was fine or
The action was fine but the I think you know where I’m going here welcome to 32 thoughts the podcast presented as always by the GMC Sierra America alongside Freedman and Dom shat you know what I’m getting at here and that is Morgan Riley Saturday night Toronto versus Ottawa the
Hit to the head of Wrigley Greg after the slapshot heard round Elliots the hockey world and in inperson hearing for the Tron toate beliefs number one defenseman we’re going to paint with a roller first and then drill down and pull out the brushes but why brush
Thoughts here on what we just saw on Saturday and what we heard on Sunday I was surprised it was an a potential of an inperson I really was I I look uh a lot of this is tribalism and we’ll get to the tribalism aspect of this shortly uh I mean my bottom line
Opinion is if I was a player on the is playing for another team when a when a player scored an empty net goal like that I would be furious but I still thought that Riley crossed the line and he deserved a suspension I just don’t think it should be at least potentially
Potentially they don’t have to do it a six- game suspension and here’s why and the reason I feel this let’s go back and Dom’s got the audio for you here a couple years ago Blake lazat was suspended one game for cross-checking Josh morresy and listen to the audio of
The explanation expecting an altercation morisy drops his stick and gloves then wasat raises his stick with two hands and delivers a blow that hits morisy directly in the face this is crosschecking it is important to note that this is not a case of a stick directed towards the body that
Materially rides up the opponent this cross check is delivered cleanly to the head of morisy so that’s Blake lazat one game on Josh morsy here’s one this year it’s Andrew mapani he got one game for a cross Che against Seattle and again it’s very clear that they hold mapani
Responsible for the force of the Cross check but again they talk about well you’ll hear it yourself with mccan on the ice mopan shoves McAn in the upper back and neck which causes his head to strike the ice this is crosschecking it is important to note that we accept
Mangan’s contention that he does not intend to drive mcan’s head into the ice on this play in addition we acknowledge that this is not a case in which a player uses the full extension of his arms or his body weight to strike an opponent or intentionally drive him
Violently into the ice however mopan is in control throughout this sequence and makes the decision to deliver a reckless cross check to a player fying vulnerable on the ice which causes mcan’s head to impact the ice I understand that sometimes people roll their eyes at this
Kind of stuff but this is the kind of thing that I really try to look for when it comes to explaining rules or what further decisions might be like if you take a look at Austin Matthews two games on Rasmus Dalene the moment that happened I checked with someone I said
Matthews is in trouble because there’s no write up it’s directly into the face and that’s exactly what happened and if you listen to the video that’s exactly what they talk about so you know with David Pan and the one earlier this year against Ottawa that was not a write up
Even though it was Pan’s first career suspension and it was it was harsh six games he goes right into zub’s face he doesn’t ride up so that’s why I was so surprised today Jeff because I try to look for the consistency and one of the things I’ve
Always been told about cross checks is does the player go directly to the head or does it hit something else first so like I said I thought Riley was going to get suspended because he was careless like mapani but I thought we were looking at that two three four games I
Was not expecting this and I would expect that whoever’s defending Riley in this hearing is going to go hard at that uh because if I know that I assume that they know that I I I can’t Elliot be surprised until we find out what the number is like to your point the
Inperson hearing just gives you the potential for something uh so I who knows like maybe Riley comes in and they end up settling at one game or two games or three games whatever it is and it doesn’t approach that five or six games uh threshold or territory um I think
That there’s a number of unique things about this too and this is where you know you mentioned tribalism before and I can’t help but thinking that if the roles were reversed and it was Matthew n who scored an empty neck goal a slapshot at Scotia Bank Arena and Brady kachu
Went after him the roles would be completely reversed between Maple Leaf’s fans and Ottawa Senators fans it’s almost like you know one of those exercises you do in high school uh where it’s like okay this is the position you have to take and this is the position
That this side has to take and then you flip it halfway through the debate it’s a standard exercise that a lot of high school students do the unique part about this one is it opens up all kinds of conversations about things like the code and appropriate behavior and appropriate
Response um I thought it was really interesting and I was glad you guys had clo jaru on hockey night right after the game uh clo jaru as we all know a veteran hockey player been around seen a lot of things understands you know the game within the game and you know he was
Really reluctant to comment much on this at all but I walked away I’m curious what you think Elliot I I came away from watching that Saturday night and saying I don’t think that clo jaru was cool at all with what Ridley Greg did did he wasn’t cool with what Morgan Riley did
Afterwards maybe he understood it from an old school point of view but he didn’t want to bury a teammates to me that was one of the most compelling things that I’ve seen on hockey TV all season long just a a quick little departure from the event itself what did
You make as you’re sitting there being part of it the clo jaru interview on hockey nights when Karu played in Philadelphia who was their leader a big tall defenseman who in the Hockey Hall of Fame who was in shyo Cross checks himself well that’s the thing it was
Chris Pronger and if that had happened and Chris Pronger was on the ice what do you think Chris Pronger would have done this is a recording same thing there there might have been never mind uh an in-person hearing it might have been a felony if Chris Pronger had had been playing flatfoots
Hit the ice let’s look let’s talk about the tribalism for a sec okay sure and that’s because you can’t you cannot take that out of this 95 to 99% of the people who are arguing on social media about this if you reverse the two teams yes
The Lea take that slapshot into the net and this Ottawa player commits the cross check they have the all these people are going to reverse their positions they are not arguing so much what they believe they are arguing the bias that they have which is they’re Pro Ottawa or Pro Toronto and
That’s why I brought up kachuck and n and this is the this is a constant refrain around actions like this or suspensions or injuries it’s only a problem when your bull gets gored that is the history of this sport say if Nick Robertson did that the Ottawa fans they
Would want breedy kachuck leaving the ice with blood coming out of his teeth like one of the vampires in I Am Legend that is just the way life is more and more and especially now in the social media era people don’t see or argue what is real they argue their biases and I
See it everywhere all the time and even though I try not to be guilty of that there are certainly times I am guilty of it too and the other thing to me that’s really fascinating about this is sort of like the journalists and the former
Players a lot of the media uh don’t like This and like I said I think rileigh deserves a suspension I don’t think it should be six games but he deserves a punishment but it’s very interesting how many of the former players saw Greg’s slapshot and said oh yeah I get it um
And even guys like who are pro Ottawa guys like our former teammate Jason York and Mark mathot who works for the evil Telecom like those guys are guys whose opinions I really respect they’re former players they understood why he reacted the way he did but you can’t go over the line and Riley
Went over the line so when you talk about jiru there and knowing that you know jiru is a Pronger disciple he played for the Flyers like if that happened against Philadelphia like I said there’d be ambulances at the arena particularly if it was in the 1970s or
80s gritty would hit the ice gritt gritty would be let out in handcuffs if somebody did that against the Flyers so it is all tribalism I try to separate myself as much as I can and look I I like I have been a player in a game
Nowhere near as high stakes at this who has gotten angry in a tough tough game a really competitive game when you feel that somebody is showboating you right it doesn’t excuse CU going past the line but I understand how it happens and you know the other thing too is there’s a
Lot of people out there on Twitter or in social media and they’re like ah it’s just a slapshot to an empty net what’s the big deal I see some of these people go into rages when somebody sends a mildly critical tweet at them don’t tell me you’re going to handle it any better
Than Riley did come on you know I’ll say this the other story that develops out of this is this is now a huge deal for Toronto as much as people are debating the play and the reaction to it oh yeah Morgan Riley is Toronto’s best defenseman and this
Year arguably their best player like it is amazing to me that Toronto has a 600 winning percentage with the way their season is gone the goal tending ups and downs a total roller coaster the thinness on defense the fact that they’re basically a two-line team like they’ve got a better winning percentage
With than Detroit and Tampa because they have games in hand but they’re now in a fight with these teams to make the playoffs if you lose Riley for for argument sake six games that that could be your season so you can only imagine The Angst
And the concern and the and I think that Maple as an organization are Furious about this um but you know they have to they have to put together the defense of all defenses cuz another thing that I looked at Jeff is how often do you find players who get in-person hearings that
Don’t get six games and I I went through the list and I found Dimitri kulakov in 2015 when he played for Florida he clipped Tyler Sean got offered an in-person hearing waved it and got four games John Moore then of the Rangers in 2014 he uh hit Eric Holla inperson hearing
Didn’t get six got five but the idea of being offered an in-person hearing and like this turns like I thought it was going to be two to four games that’s what I thought I thought two was the lowend and four was the high end but six
To2 it like I I did a check on Sunday afternoon and I didn’t see anything like that so if you’re Toronto you are beside yourself that this could cost you Morgan Riley at at this point of the season and the NHL can’t worry about that they have
To make the decision as they feel right but I I I do think if you’re the maple Le you are apoplectic about the possibility one other sidebar to this I’m just curious your thoughts on it uh I got a note from from someone asking why nothing for Sheldon Keefe who after
The event said the Act was appropriate we’ve seen coaches he’s defending he’s defending his player I get that he’s defending his player but we’ve seen coaches and I’m not I’m not I’m just asking the question that someone asked me like we’ve seen coaches F certainly for blasting officials how about coaches
Uh I’m just asking it no I’m okay but I’m saying to you you have to tell the person who texted you about that and say I we wouldn’t even accept that question on the Montana’s try the ribs line that is such a bad question like what do you
Expect Sheldon Keefe to do if he doesn’t defend his player he completely loses his dressing room of course he’s gonna Morgan Riley has been like I said his arguably his best player this year and you know even with Matthews at 42 goals You could argue that Morgan Riley is his
Most important player this year he’s going to defend Morgan Riley I think that’s crazy you like if if you don’t understand that you don’t understand teamwork or Sports and and also too it’s not like he said anything inflammatory he just calmly said I think it’s appropriate the point that the person
Who texted me who is a prominent agent by the way I think the point they were trying to make is he is supporting a suspendable act publicly come on I mean come on like Jeff you you have Don’t Talk To Me Elliot this isn’t me saying you no you
Can’t defend I am I am bringing this up but if you are going to be the proxy guy then you have to take the proxy beat down I’ll stand here and and you have a have a swing at this pinata um the other I can’t hit the agent with a lead pipe
Because he’s not here but I can hit you with it okay so the other or she’s not here one of the other first of all you know know the sidebar to all of this is you always sort of okay I I think we all wonder what the next game is going to be
Like between these two teams bracket that conversation for a second but if you’re a Maple Leafs fan I know that Morgan RI in this suspension is going to hurt the tronto M Leafs I understand that but how do Maple Leaf’s fans feel about Morgan Riley now
Well th this is the thing too here like do you know are you a Bill Burr guy are you a Bill Burr fan I love Bill Burr I do too I listen to his podcast I just drive and I I cackle I I love Bill Burr
So one of the first Saturday night lives when they started bringing an audience back after covid he was the host yep and he he was talking about there was a story where a guy was walking down a Street in Manhattan and out of nowhere someone punched him in the
Face and he told and he talked about that story and he just yells in a way only Bill bur can New York we’re back baby we’re back random punches in the face we’re back and that’s what I thought about the Battle of Ontario on Saturday night with that it was back and
Look if if you’re an Ottawa fan you love what Ridley Greg did you love it yep he buried the Toronto Maple Lees the team you despise the most you saw the Sanders fans in that building they were going crazy like that is red meat to the Ottawa Sanders and like I said because
Of the tribalism they will defend Ridley Greg to the end of the world on that it’s not that bad it’s not that bad don’t be a Wim don’t be soft it’s just a slapshot but of course if it was the other way around and it was Nick say
Nick Robertson they’d be destroying Nick Robertson and the maple Le but that’s tribalism like we all get that with Riley of course the maple EA fans love that what’s the biggest critique of the Toronto Maple Leafs that they are a bunch of overpaid emotionless automatons he showed passion soft skill
Too soft skill to yeah you want to say whatever you want he showed passion he showed Pride like I said he went over the line but he showed passion he showed pride and he showed that he really cares and in Toronto if you show that you care
They will love you forever MH and the the Lea fans they loved it and they will defend Riley to the end of the Earth on this even though again if the situation was reversed and that was a senator who hit Nick Robert they’d be destroying that guy and
Clobbering that guy but they will say that’s the kind of Pride we need and in their eyes Morgan Riley is you know he’s he’s the oppressed person here he was standing up for his team and he’s being victimized that’s the way the Toronto fans will see it and
So yeah I I I totally understand why and also too if the maple had done nothing their own fan base would have ripped them as soft you know it I know it and broadcasters would have done it too they would have said how do you let that
Happen so like like I said like I look at this incident as Greg did something he shouldn’t have been surprised that a maple leaf player retaliated to on him and if Morgan Riley just throws off his gloves and jumps him nothing happens here like you remember uh two years ago
Morgan Riley didn’t like a hit that Josh morrisy put on Robertson Le Winnipeg and he jumped him and fought him if he jumps and fights Greg here we’re not in this situation but he used the cross check again it’s a write up so I’m surprised
We are where we are but um you know the the the thing is that the toughest thing is and I’m sure Riley feels this I’m sure he’s angry about the position he’s in I have no doubt he thinks this is too much but he’s probably also saying I
Lost my emotions and now I’ve put us in a really bad spot so that you know I think that’s the overall situation here do you think anyone is considering the Vancouver Canuck sof for not reacting to Jake Walman the pride of armor Heights for hitting the gritty hitting the gritty after the over
The pride of armor heights yeah you know what like I I I know people who were like and by the way credit to Friend of the Pod uh Ryan Hannah who pointed out the second time he’s done it to Casey the Smith theith could have charged that
The Smith should have charged that the second time I have no doubt I have no doubt that there were people yeah who said that they should have done something about that or the next time they play they should do something about that but I guarantee because of this
Both those teams are going to be worn before that game uh yeah there’s a there is a great line in hockey we have to do something about all this fighting or we’re going to have to build bigger Arenas uh what is next season look like between these two teams and if you’re
George Lorac or Tony twist should you uh renew your gym memberships and maybe start taking boxing lessons in the offseason or or maybe it’s that that one game where it’s like slapshot oh man he had a yeah we got to text PJ come on I have thought about him because you don’t
Think about him with the Sanders and the leaves like it could be like one game tryouts for Chris Neil and Ty DOI and tyer Williams not bad tough guys from Ottawa and Toronto passed for one game only honestly I think it’s going to be I think it’ll be wild I know both teams
Are going to be warned but I’m not so the only thing that that I’m kind of upset about as you try to draw the sort of perfect scenario for this kind of upset that the Islanders hired Patrick W and not the Ottawa Senators can you imagine the dynamic next season the
First game between the Maple Leafs and the Ottawa Senators and it’s Patrick W behind the Ottawa bench I mean I don’t even think you need to add anyone to it it’s it’s just going to be a crazy environment but again like Jeff I I’m sitting here and you know after the game
On Saturday night and into Sunday morning I was thinking you know what a what a great thing it is for the Ottawa Toronto rivalry to be white hot again like the league is better when the rivalries are like this and you know I’d forgotten until Kevin mentioned it it’s
The first time in five years otta was beaten Toronto in a season series that’s not a rivalry when the same team is winning four years straight so now you’ve got all of this but after the in-person hearing the offer was announced like to me the storyline
Shifts to what is on the line for the maple Le here this is like this is a massive massive deal for them IM imagine you went to the New York Islanders and and had like Matthew Barelle in this situation or the devils and Jack Hughes in this situation well they have they
Didn’t like and they fell out of a playoff spot yeah I I like I or you know like some of these teams are really balanced I I think they could handle uh a loss of of a major hang on hang on you know what the best example is last year
Washington John Carlson there’s your example yeah you know they they really lost it without him but and you know the other thing too about it is with an in-person hearing is like look at what happened with pan he got six games they’re in the second appeal
Process but you can’t get the games back now Toronto did have a situation a couple years ago where Spa on a firsttime offense got a six game suspension and bman lowered it to four now that is very rare but it does happen but if you’re you’re Toronto right now like you cannot
Overstate the critical nature of this hearing and this decision so initially I was thinking about that was incredible to watch now I’m thinking about what’s on the line for them right now is they find themselves battling for the playoffs the story is not going to get any calmer
Once the suspension is revealed leave Lees play Tuesday by the way against St Louis to throw that out there but like oh man like I have to tell you is you will as you can imagine um you know like in this situation you hear it from s
Fans you hear it from Lea fans I kind of laugh it all off because without that passion that you know we don’t have jobs uh but you know like if if the Toronto Ottawa rivalry was dormant for a little bit of time mhm that’s over that is over
OV ah over and all it took was an empty net goal I always think of the great story of Mickey ions legendary NHL official who used to have a saying he would call the linesman to Center Ice before the game he would hold up a puck
And he would say gentlemen one thing we all need to remember here the moment I drop this the three of us become the only sane people in this building think about this Elliott the Battle of Ontario is on again because of a empty net goal enjoy okay uh me meanwhile
Elsewhere around the NHL Elliott um a few things from headlines on Saturday and I want to start by talking about the Calgary Flames and the New Jersey Devils and the conversation that you had with Ron yesterday but I will point out as well um we had a really unique looking
Game sheet last night in this one um flames 5 New York Islanders 2 and it’s bizarre but there it is on that McKenzie weager goal where he went end to end gorgeous play like gorgeous um Jacob markstrom with the primary assist and Blake Coleman with the second
Assist on the you do not see that very often Elliots no I I have to say like all credit to the Flames all credit you know actually I had I had a player text me uh on Sunday morning I woke up to a text and a player said to me and this is
A player from another team he said you know I I I I watch Saturday nights he says like every week and he says you’re not the only one it’s it’s the Flames every week and it’s not just you it’s all the other people who report on the league it’s it’s basically the Flames
Every day and there’s there’s a there’s a cloud around just like what is the future of this team it’s it’s obv it’s been around T of like zadorov they sorted that out ly Holm they sorted that out and and I have to tell you this someone did tell me and they weren’t
Ripping Lin Holm as a person but they were kind of saying like that guy was in a funk all year all year he’s been and I think it’s perfectly normal Jeff it’s you know like I know in situations I don’t mind being uncomfortable I’ve learned over the years um you know like
One of my first bosses my first actually my first boss in TV was a was a guy by name of Lee herberman and he could be a really tough boss like a really tough boss and but it was it a lot of it was
In a good way like he really um you know he like like Nelson milman was my was my one of my first bosses and he always and he could be tough when he really needed to be but mostly he was very encouraging he was like Elliot I see uh I have a
Belief in you and I’m going to teach you he could be blunt and honest when needed to be but he’s like I’m going to teach you to be better Lee herberman was um a tough boss and he taught me a lot he once told me he says Elliot I don’t I I
Don’t think people are always at their best when they’re their most comfortable it’s like Ken Hitchcock really he would say sometimes I’m going to make you uncomfortable so that you have to fight to make yourself comfortable and in the long run it will make you better at what you are
And he was right about that ly Hol this year he was uncomfortable all year like I said I think right before the season the last time the flames and and ly Holm really looked at that I think they were more than a million a year apart like
That’s a really tough tough bridge to make up and he was struggling and it was weighing on him and you know he was miserable and even though he still doesn’t have a contract uh I just think it’s going to be a better situation for him and it’s
Just been it’s been better for them and like tanv I think this is making him crazy but he’s just a positive guy and he’s going to go through it um hanifin it’s been up and down but he’s played great and now you know we kind of threw
Markstrom into it a bit more on Saturday night or not we I did it but he has been unbelievable and oh yeah I just think that the Flames even though there’s still a lot of noise around them I I think a lot of those guys now they’re like either they’re playing through it
Or they’re just not bothered by it and and someone just said to me it’s just a less stressed atmosphere they really don’t like it for tanov because they think that deep down like it’s making him nuts but he just that guy just battles through everything like there’s
There’s nothing that can stop that guy if I told you in the summer that the Calgary Flames are going to trade by you know the second week of February they were going to trade Tyler T Foley Nikita zadorov Elias lindome you probably would have said okay so they’re a lottery team
Right they’re right around the Wild Card yeah like they’re they’re they’re like I’m with you like congratulations Calgary flame this is impressive like coming back from Allstar and and going on this winning streak here and beating some impressive teams along the way too this is this has been great okay um
Sticking with the Calgary Flames uh headlines was fascinating and featured a very prominent Calgary flame one that should be in the Vesna trophy uh conversation I’m sure he already is I think by now people have clued into the fact that Jacob markstrom Elliott is having an outstanding season and Jacob
Markstrom is valued not just in Calgary but elsewhere as well most notably perhaps with in the devil’s organization so I think we’ve all known that there’s kind of been this it’s it’s like that awkward High School dance right Jeff it’s you know the boy sees girl boy wants to dance
With girl boy’s kind of shy girl wants to dance with boy are you confusing me with your therapist Elliot I’m your co-host I’m your buddy I’m not your therapist believe me this did happen to me a few times I’m not I’m not GNA lie I was the shiest of teenagers
Uh girl says I wish this guy would ask me already and you know like eventually you get there um I I think that the devils and the Flames have been awkwardly looking at each other I I just heard it got pretty serious um you know I’ve talked before
On this pod about how the Flames have I believe only kept money once and I think that was David Ric to Toronto and that was a deal that had no term so again I I think the shest predictor of future events is past events so teams know that the Flames are
Not crazy about this right so I do believe that is a major hurdle and was probably the major hurdle and I think the package was I think they were closer on that I’m not 100% sure but I think they were closer on that it was they weren’t it wasn’t perfect but I heard
The retention was the much bigger problem the much bigger problem and like I had people telling me it’s it’s Fallen apart it’s over but I don’t know that I I don’t like to say that because I’ve learned in this business that just because something is true one day
Doesn’t mean it’s true the next day but I do think the devils are looking at other possibilities now what this says to me like a rental makes no sense for the Devils they’re probably not making the playoffs this year but I think they’re looking at guys with term and
They like this as I was told was and I heard it from more than one place was a real legit attempt at markstrom and again I don’t know that it ever went to him I don’t know the answer to that but I do know that the two teams made a real serious
Try and and you know I’ll I’ll just say this like again those Calgary players they are playing their hearts out in the middle of a crazy season and I everything I always say Al mckinness Al mckinness how is this going to go over in our room and I I think the
Flames think about that if you’re going to give up markstrom you it better be good and I think that’s that’s what governed this as much as anything you see I can see these two teams I think we’ve talked about this before on the Pod or the radio show they
All bleed together in some ways I look at these two teams and I say these two teams together given what where both are in their winning cycle given where both are in what they have and what they need these might be the perfect two teams
Elliott not for a trade but for a Block Buster now it would have helped if New Jersey was in a better position in the standings certainly but I look at New Jersey and what they need shortterm long-term again as we’ve mentioned before the douge Hamilton injury might
Be the most underreported story of the season in the NHL period yeah but that’s but that’s a whole um I look at New Jersey and I say this is a team that doesn’t capital N need a lot of draft picks right now like a lot of the key pieces for the New
Jersey Devils are already in place like there are some players coming up and certainly some Polish for young guys but basically like all of what you’re going to see with the New Jersey Devils is kind of all in place except for the goal tending and that’s what the Calgary
Flames have and the New Jersey Devils have the ability whether it’s with young players specifically defenseman where they have a lot um or draft picks and draft picks can be used to get teams to retain on money and that’s where the markom conversation to your point comes in these two teams have
The potential to have an absolutely Blockbuster deal but again I’ll swing back to your point if New Jersey was in second place in the metropolitan maybe we’re talking about this a little bit stronger because they also do have Noah hanifen like honestly ell I look at
These two and I say because you’ve done this before too marry two teams and say which teams based on what they have and what they need you know marry that to another team where you can see a blockbuster deal I keep swinging back to Calgary and New Jersey so I was happy to
See you talk about that on Saturday but you think this is scuttled at this point or at least on cause that’s what someone said to me more than one person said to me like there was there was a lot this really it just happened the two teams
Were in the same city and I just think it it added to it look like I said I had a couple people say to me they think it’s scuttled but I’m you you know how careful I am uh this this is a funny League like sometimes when you lay the
Groundwork yeah it falls apart but sometimes you can go back to it and uh you know like people grind in negotiations like you know you’re you know Tom Fitzgerald Craig Conroy like these are former players and this is their competition now and they battle just as hard in conversations as they
Did did when they were both on the ice and both of those guys were really competitive players okay here’s what I want you to do Elliot I want you do me a favor I want you to stop being careful and I want you to I want you to treat
This next topic like your um like your roller skating down a gravel road how about that let’s see let’s be nice and I can already feel the stitches okay okay let’s be like that about this next topic Market clog in the NHL gensel tanv Hanahan and Adam Henrik you mentioned on
Saturday roller skate down a gravel road on these four okay uh I can do that um you know hannahan I don’t have certainty on um but you know teams are teams are certainly under the impression that look he’s not signed so we you know we better
Be in on it um and you know there’s been a lot of interest in Tana for a long time I think it’s growing on Hanahan the guy’s played really well I think it’s growing but we’ll see um tanov there’s a lot um you know obviously Toronto’s there obviously Dallas is there like to
Me what Calgary is trying to do here is they know they can get a second for Tan of I think the question is can they get a first does somebody just say we’ve got to have this guy and so they’re I I I’ll say I’ll say this though you made a
Point on the podcast and I I mentioned how he’s only missed about 20 games but you said it’s like almost a Livewire act with the way that tanov plays that you you have to make the deal look like he went down the tunnel what twice on
Thursday in New Jersey um I do think there is some of that here I I I do think that like this is the challenge for the manager in this case and and and that is I think I can get more versus do I wait too long and and I
Think the Flames is a Management Group are kind of going through that um but look I I I think there’s a lot of interest in hannahan I think there’s a lot of interest in tanv I think there’s quite a bit of interest in henrique and gensel the thing about Pittsburgh is
Like someone said to me you know dubis right I said yes I do I’ve met him once or twice before and they said you know that he’s got he’s done his research what did Karo get a first rounder and Owen tippet now don’t forget Florida was kind of down on tippet at
The time but he’s turned out to be a great find for Philly if jiru had gone to Colorado it was a first rounder and I think Baron and so it was a first and a good Prospect in both those cases look at the Tyler tley deal when Tyler tley got traded from
Calgary to New Jersey he was traded for Sharon govic who’s turned out to be a really good pickup and a third rounder now obviously dubis is going to look at the giru deal as opposed to the Sharon go the TFI deal because the jiru price was a little bit higher but dubis is
Sitting there he’s saying look if you want gensel I want the giru deal so he can wait like everyone’s looking at gensel and the play teams who want him they know whether Kyle dubis Waits and a really tough weekend for the Penguins bad loss in Minnesota uh no points
Against Winnipeg so you know like look like I think dubis is prepared to let this play out cuz he knows the comparables and everybody else knows the comparables too to me it’s just a simply a question of when does dubis decide if he’s going to do it now if
Pittsburgh’s in the race I still think he does it but you know as I say the math isn’t very good for them but I think everybody knows like that’s what the penguins are going to be asking for when the time comes for gensel now the other thing too Jeff that
Happens here is there’s going to be some teams who say I’m not I can’t either I’m not or I can’t can’t pay that price for any of those players so they go and search what else they want but those are kind of the four guys that the people
Who have that want or are willing to pay that price are are are waiting on uh Adam enri well again two of the centers are gone right and you know I’ll say this now the question becomes the centers with term Nick Dow one more year uh Nick buad has
Term um you know I think I’ve mentioned you know Jenner I I don’t like to like I just mentioned it if and I’ll just say that again but like that’s the thing here like all these GMS are are looking at first rounders going for rentals and they’re saying what about
Our guys with term here if that’s what the rentals are going for so again it’s who’s willing to pay that price I think one of the things that’s been a bit of a challenge this year is that some of the teams that are obviously selling they don’t have a lot
That people really want like I’m not convinced there’s a lot in San Jose that people really want or are willing to pay the top prices for you know Chicago I think one exception could be a guy like Connor Murphy um and he’s still got term but other than that they’ve either signed
Their guys or you know I just don’t know how much the interest is there Conor Murphy has you know two more years although he again he has a modified no trade um but like that’s that’s what I see here is look at what the rentals are getting so
What are the term guys worth and and how many players from teams that are out are coveted I I I I think the number this year is lower than it has been in past years okay A a couple of things here I’m curious about this one always around
Trade deadline time maybe call this the Wild Card factor in all this and you mentioned Boon Jenner and I had a conversation with someone last week uh and I brought up Boon Jenner’s name uh because I figured that this team would be interested in Boon Jenner and this
Person said to me you know one of the things that he wonders about Boon Jenner is does the owner really like him because there’s always players where the owner does that matter does the owner have any power well maybe it’s you know what it’s the uh it’s it’s the Golden Rule he or
She who has the gold makes the rules um so I would B uses that line a lot it’s a good line it’s a fantastic line um so uh in that scenario this person said to me you know there’s a belief that that ownership loves Boon Jenner and you know
Don’t just don’t just treat this you know particular situation like it’s any other potential trade uh when the ownership get really oh I I I’m listen I’m with you 100% And I think of you know other owners and I’ll think of you know someone like Terry Pula who’s
Always really lik zus gurgenson like he’s really like the player really like the person and you talked about the Buffalo stabbers on Saturday as well and you talked about you know them wanting help now they are not in the send us kids they are in the we have our kids
Now we need to compliment them you know Jeff I I don’t disagree with you that’s why kindergarten has teachers you don’t let these kids go off into the wild right uh that’s what as teacher I just thought of that I think it’s pretty good again tickled my chin that was good
Again like and you brought in Buffalo at the end you know they they’re talking about we need help now and we have mentioned about how they’re taking look at some of their kids and I I don’t think maybe some of the ones that haven’t made the NHL yet
And I don’t think kulich is one of them I I I had some people who specifically told me that that they were they were asking about kulich and they’re like no um and he and you know like I I completely agree with you you got to have
Veterans around some of these guys like there are people who say to me well you look at Chicago they won three Stanley Cups and the kids were all the drivers and I said yeah they were and those a lot of those kids are going to the Hall of Fame you know Keith was
Little bit older um but I I think that team is more the exception than the rule we we we get caught up in exceptions a lot as opposed to the rule and you you have to have good veterans by the way you know the other thing I heard actually on the
On the weekend was I think some teams that asked Buffalo about tuck and I think Buffalo just said you know we’re not we’re not doing that the middle Stat one I think is really interesting you know I I’m big uh as you know I’m big Andrew Peters and Craig R
Fans yep and and they have middle stat out there and I think the sabes I privately have pushed back on the idea that they are actively shopping them but I think everybody can see here it’s pay him or move on like that’s if you ask people people around the league you know
Buffalo’s at that point are you committing especially as we said on Friday with everybody else getting paid you basically have to make a choice and it’s going to be a big ARB number too big ARB number yes it will yes it will uh okay a couple more things
Here before we get to our uh our Montana’s thought line and our interview with Peter lavet probably should have mentioned that earlier Peter lavet uh we sat down with last week at Allstar uh that conversation coming up with New York Rangers bench boss um gez I don’t
Even know how to phrase this other than maybe this uh when’s the next news day for the Arizona Coyotes when do we expect to hear something I I honestly uh don’t know I had heard that there was going to be some announcement around the Super Bowl Frank had reported it Craig Morgan had
Reported it and I think Craig Morgan is the most plugged in guy in in all of this by like a mile and and someone told me on Saturday I don’t think so and I think this is someone who would know and also I think the other thing here too I
Had another uh person say to me what’s next weekend what’s coming up this week and I temporarily forgot but it’s the two outdoor games in New York right yep and the league is not going to want anything to overshadow that um plus also I don’t think there’s exact Clarity on
What is going on with the coyotes so I don’t think we’re getting anything right now I still do think though there better be a serious plan soon like I I don’t think that’s changed but I think the league is prepared to let it be presented again it goes down
To what we’ve been talking about if bman is going to have to do something with this franchise he’s not giving any legal reason MH for there to be a feeling that he did anything improperly or wasn’t 100% encouraging and that governs everything here so no roller skating
Down a gravel road no roller skating down a gravel Ro by the way what did you think of the of the hurricane Whaler stuff uh I mean I’m a sucker for it but I don’t want to go off in a big tangent about how I think there should be more
More green in the NHL but I think it should be more green in the NHL they looked and I love the call Hartford penal to oh it was so great Elliot it was I’m a I’m a suck I’m a I’m a big sucker for for Len I I grew up in the in
The 70s as love F so I love the all the headbands were great I just think the colors look fantastic that logo is Iconic and that’s why it’s still one of the the great sellers for the NHL I don’t know I I’ll just be blunt I wish
There is still a Whalers team with that you know that logo and that color combination in the NHL somewhere I I love it I love every I love everything about it did you ever wear a headband when you were younger uh when I were you a headband guy only when I took tennis
Lessons at Miss bronovsky was it bronovsky or bronova in uh I think she was out of out of th I don’t know how to fact check that one nobody’s going to know if he get this one wrong Jeff okay okay very good was a noted tennis instructor and my mom loved tennis and
She wanted her son to be not just a hockey player but a tennis player as well and I liked tennis um didn’t love tennis I would love to get back into it now because it’s such a cool sport uh but no that was the last time I wore a
Headband what about you well I used to wear a headband because I love Bjorn Borg until I can’t remember it was a friend or one of my sisters said to me you know you look really stupid and a headband and that was kind of the end of
That you can bring you should know you you should do cuz you’re working out a lot you should bring it back in the gym as a as a tribute to Rick Dudley the Cincinnati Stingers I don’t have enough hair to wear a headband oh all right
Well I think the other thing I just wanted to mention too is uh you know I know there’s a lot of talk about Jordan Eberly uh I I I think the Kraken take a a a run at at uh at at trying to sign him we’ll see where that goes
But I I I would be surprised if they didn’t try to sign him first real quick before as we uh as we had to break Doug Armstrong Team Canada well Doug Armstrong was like you’re checking because Bill Garen got the US job right so you just look around and I don’t
Think that there’s a set time for them to do it but Doug Armstrong was supposed to lead Canada at the last Olympic Games and had to step down uh when the NHL players didn’t go so I’ve always kind of assumed that he was the person if we ever went back there um but
Like and like I was saying is it going to be Armstrong and people were like that’s a good guess like as in it makes a lot of sense but there’s nothing confirmed at this time okay uh before we go to break Shameless plug uh the return
Of rink fries is now my weekly blog at sportsnet.ca where Elliot you can learn about things like traveling minor penalties what is it check out sportsnet.ca and the rink fries blog it’s returned it’s a weekly here we go uh yeah thanks it’s nice to be back it’s
Nice to spend Saturday writing it was kind of cool and spending the whole day uh chasing phone calls that was a lot of fun uh and that will continue uh on that we’ll take a break Montana thought line coming up here in a couple of moments and then our interview with Peter lavet
Head coach of the New York Rangers back in a moment listen to the 32 thoughts podcast add free on Amazon music included with Prime Time now OT for your favorite segment where you get to say your signature line the Montana’s thought line Montana’s barbecue and bar Canada’s home for barbecue Elliot trather ribs 32ths at sportsnet.ca 18833 311 3232 uh hi Jeff and Elliott this from Tim wosi in Victoria BC we were just
There and loved it uh lifon hockey fan recent 32 thought subscriber love the show thank you Tim my question is regarding the reverse hit play that seems to have become a standard move in the league but my issue is why is it not viewed as interference why is that not
Interference you’re hitting a person Elliott that doesn’t have the puck clearly well I I it’s a good question I I think Jeff that the reason is it’s been taught as a defense mechanism for a long time and that uh especially as uh players started they cracked down an
Obstruction and players could come at these play defensemen with a lot more speed they realized that the defensive players had to be able to protect themselves in a certain way and you know for example K Julian was a guy I always used to talk to me about this clo was so
Good about teaching about the game but he would tell his defenseman if a guy’s coming at you put your stick up he’d say don’t kill the guy but just get it up cuz you have have to defend yourself you know you can’t have guys getting pasted
Off the Wall all the time and this was especially a big deal after interference and obstruction was really taken out and I just you know you don’t know or realize Jeff it’s been 20 years now since that lock out right it’s amazing yeah it’s every year people have gotten
Better at it and it’s over time you the line moves you’re taught how to do it more and now it’s become a weapon initiate the contact now I do think this is going to be a conversation at the GM meetings in March about what to do about
This because it’s come a lot farther than I think it was originally intended it was initially taught as a defensive move now it’s an offensive move now it’s not protecting yourself from contact well it is a little bit but it’s more initiating the contact right so I think
The question is a really good one but when this first came it was about how do we allow our players to protect themselves a bit it’s evolved beyond that so I I do think we’re going to have that conversation excellent one okay voicemail this is about goh horns check
It out Elliott gentlemen this is Tim from Oxbridge Jeff I grew up in stvil love it beautiful Town my question for you guys who was the first team to use a goh horn I grew up watching hockey in the 90s I don’t remember much goh horns
Until May mid to late 990s who was the first one and did it annoy the other teams when to stores were sorry not stores teams would adopt yeah the go horn gentlemen keep up the great work try the ribs Elliott what are you doing eating ribs not supposed to they’re tasty take
Care that’s cuz we’re doing the 2000 push-up challenge here we got to get our diets right Oher oh that was tough It’s I know you’re beating Brody now that’s good Elliot I’m PR days of my life um the the you know what I was thinking about that when before he get
To the answer when he was asking question the first team that reacted uh when they heard the goal horn they probably cross checked someone in the head just to keep the theme of this pond that’s hockey um okay so you know who it was it was the Chicago Blackhawks
It was the 1973 Stanley was it the organ did they use the organ to it was not the organ this is a very specific uh uh goal horn 1973 Montreal and Chicago Blackhawk Stanley Cup Final it was Bill W’s idea and do you know where the horn was from you’ll love
This it was the it was the horn from Bill wertz’s yacht he had it he had it install that’s very bouro that became that became the goal Here Comes thear re Revolution and that was and that was the first as a matter of fact that was the first one
1973 yeah see I thought it was the Buffalo Sabers cuz can you am I as a kid do you remember that too like am I making this up like I thought it was I thought it would have been the Sabers you know watching the Sabers as a kid
That that horn was so loud you thought it was in your living room I loved it I was great oh I know and the voice of Ted darling calling the goal and there’s the horn like oh that’s my that’s sitting on my couch Wednesdays watching saber so
It’s that’s my youth right there man uh I I do think by by the way that’s a great story I’m not surprised I didn’t know it and you did I have to say well it’s because it has like it’s it put it this way I’ve I’ve I’ve uh managed to
Leak out a lot of important information for things like life to make room for things like you know the worz this goldhorn from his yacht in 1973 don’t be too envious of me I think by the way the Winnipeg Jets someone in Winnipeg is gonna correct me if I’m wrong probably
Someone from the organization I still think they have their original goal horn I think they’re still using the original one there I have that knocking around my melon as well we’ll we’ll we’ll see where that goes um here’s one for you Elliot I’m just going to hand the
Recreation over to you I know about GH horns but you know about agents here’s a question this from Bruce Wiis Berber here’s a question I was trying to figure out and I’m hoping that you’ll be able to answer do you think that’s a real name or a pseudonym why is Berber Bruce
Weis Berber I don’t know cool name if it is um Vladimir tereno just switched his agent in mid season for the fourth time in three years yeah with the agent getting a percentage of the deal that their client signed does his former agent still receive his percentage of
Ter contract for this year Elliot the floor is yours great that is a great question a great question Bruce if that is your real name well I wise Berber is more in question than Bruce but okay that’s true um excellent question the answer is that the agent who signs the
Player to the contract gets the commission so if if Dom is representing Jeff and Jeff fires Dom and hires me Dom still gets the commission that’s the way it works so it doesn’t matter how many Agents come and go it’s who the agent was when the deal was signed yes okay um
Let’s do one more here before we get to Peter lavet uh gentlemen this comes to us from Tim in p a lot of Tims today this one’s Tim in Pittsburgh uh gentlemen last week you answered a question about the availability of players with partial no trade Clauses in
An expansion draft this made me wonder is there a limit on how many players can have full SLP partial no trade Clauses for one team I ask because with the possibility of another expansion draft looming and the proliferation of no trade Clauses in the NHL what would
Happen if one team had more than 10 players with full/ partial no trade Clauses if all the players with no trade Clauses included the new expansion team on the respective no trade lists wouldn’t this enable a team to protect more than the nine or 10 players they are typically allowed to be protected
Tim from Pittsburgh can you see no trades complicating expansion drafts in the future no and and Tim like this is it’s splitting hairs but it’s an important Point again good question if you have a no trade clause you are not exempt from the expansion draft if you
Are a have a no move Clause that’s the unless you are willing to wave it you are exempt from the expansion draft so a no trade clause in and of itself is not enough to protect you from the expansion draft now um there is no limit on a team
You can give or not give as much as you want there’s always this debate about whether or not they should ban no trade Clauses I’m against that I think you should be able to negotiate what you can negotiate and also a lot of us in our own jobs would try to negotiate that
Protection if we could so I think it’s really hypocritical to argue that other people shouldn’t have it but the answer is only no move Clauses can block expansion draft availability not no trade Clauses excellent um thanks again for the questions 32ths sportsnet.ca phone line 1833 311 3232 it’s the Montana’s thought line Montana’s
Barbecue and bar Canada’s home for barbecue we are back with Peter lavet head coach of the New York Rangers welcome back to the podcast you know if you’re like me you’re wondering is Peter lavet trying to coach every single team in the Metropolitan Division there’s been the Islanders there have been the Hurricanes where he won the Stanley Cup there have been the Philadelphia Flyers uh there’s been the Washington Capitals
And now there is the New York Rangers the biggest stage of them all Elliott night caught up with Peter lavet during All-Star Weekend in Toronto here is this conversation Peter lavet head coach of the Rangers did I mention they play in the Metropolitan Division and what that
Means for Peter laet bio on 32 thoughts the podcast Peter first of all thanks for joining us uh second of all you know uh everybody wonders in hockey what’s it like playing in New York would it be like coaching in New York and you have
An idea of what it might be like and then you get there was there a difference when you what you thought this would be like and what it is actually like there is um there is a marked difference from being in Madison Square Garden and being the opposition
And then being there and being the home team represented by the The Unbelievable fans in New York City the the most passionate fans um I’ve had so many people come up to me through the course of my time and say I’ve had tickets since my grandfather or my dad took me
There and where the biggest Ranger fans ever and there’s a lot of the biggest Ranger fans out there and uh they are extremely passionate about the New York Rangers and the team and you can you can feel that energy in the building maybe definitely more so than when you’re on the opposition bench
Which I’ve been for 20 years now now I’m on the the home bench in Madison Square Garden you can feel the energy just during the anthem whenever there’s a break and the fans just start I mean they’re they’re they’re ready to roll they’re you can hear them them verbally
And they’re they’re yelling and screaming and just this quick break in the action from The Anthem it’s awesome I mean just just listening to The Anthem the anthem’s great but it’s the it’s the fans that get going through the course of the anthem it’s almost like they’re
They’re ready to go they want you to know that they are ready to roll and that’s awesome from a home from a home field advantage so I think the fans in New York are been unbelievable since i’ I’ve been there and just getting to experience that for the first time on
The home bench you know just working there like even as a ringside reporter the lighting it’s like the theater lighting and uh you know I remember when the Rangers won the East in 2014 interviewing lanquist on the at Center ice and he was looking around it yeah like there there is something about
Madison Square Garden but not only the Mystique of that but the way it’s lit you feel like you’re on a stage yeah it’s almost a little bit darker around the outside of the bowl yes and the the focal point is the ice the white ice and
The players that are on it um but you still like I said you you get the you get the feeling there’s definitely the lighting there’s definitely the building and the history of MSG and then it’s filled with a fan base that that wants to go to Madison Square Garden and have
A good time they want to let it rip and and they do and so um there’s a lot that goes into that presentation but I do agree with you that some buildings now they have that that new modern feel to it it’s you know it’s got the square and
It’s got the fan it’s well lit the lights are great and then there’s something about Madison Square Garden that makes it extremely special um because of its history and its character well you know what you get I know we’re going off on a tangent here but you know
What you get with that type of lighting and a little bit of Darkness you get Shadows yeah and you don’t see like you look at Old Hockey photographs part of the Shadow game is so fascinating to watch now every arena is well lit and it’s you don’t see Shadows on the ice
Anymore but in MSG I mean it might really be the only place where you get Shadows on the ice yeah it’s uh it’s definitely a different field to it um we were just walking through the rink and you just see the pictures sometimes you look up on the walls and you see the
Pictures of who’s played there who’s been there I mean this this if this building could talk you know so it’s just pretty special place not only hockey but just like you look at the concerts like it is really it is fantastic you know I I was looking back
Like sort of like through your bio last night and you kind of forget like just how how many places you’ve been everything you’ve seen and you still love coaching like that’s one of the things I’m I’m really like the coaches who’ve been around with your experience it would be easy for you guys
To walk away say I’ve had a great run but none of you guys want to leave why is that I’m not sure if it’s a compliment or a it is it is it’s it’s a the well-traveled coach no but like the thing is like no I I know what you’re
Saying and I knew as I was saying it come no I totally agree with what you’re saying I think about my family and my kids and what I put them through yeah you know and U it’s but then they they love it my wife’s here at this All-Star
Game and she just she’s been such a big part of it we made a pack a long long time ago that no matter where I went she would go and the kids would go and it’s not always that way but we were going to keep our family together and I think
About my kids and my oldest son who’s 26 now I think about the amount of times that he’s moved inside of his career M inside of my career how many times he’s moved in his lifetime it’s amazing more but then I think about you know my kids are pretty well-rounded and
I’m I’m proud of that I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that they’ve had to be adaptable they’ve had to make friends they’ve had to go to different teams it’s never been just set in stone that this is their they’re going to go
To this high school and this is going to be their high school that they go come back to 20 years later and cheer on the the Thanksgiving day football game it’s always been movement for my kids and I’m not sure that they have outside of the
Team that I coach I’m not sure that they have a a favorite football team I’m not sure that they have a favorite baseball team because of the the transient nature of the business and so um you know with regard to the amount of teams and the
Time I do I do love what I do and I do love the game see but more than anything and this is the truth I feel so incredibly fortunate to I’m I’m I’m going to be just this year I’m going to be 60 years old I cannot believe that
I’ve been involved in Pro Hockey since I left college at 21 years old and so for me to be able to play and then coach a game that I grew up playing my dad got me playing when I was four on a pond behind his grocery store and yet here I
Am and I’m still working in the game that I love so much and so for me I more than anything in that story is just a fact I can’t believe I’m still here I can’t believe how lucky I am I’m still I’m still part of a game where I get to
Feel wins and losses and shoot for something great and experience the good times experience the low times and the bad times and there’s all of it in there but uh more than anything it’s just been an unbelievable ride I’m just I’m forever grateful for the opportunities
That I’ve had let me pick up on that I’m curious about that because in our industry like in in broadcasting you know when you get to a certain point you always got to remind yourself you know like people helped you along the way don’t kick the ladder down um as you
Mentioned you’ve been in Pro Hockey since the age of of 21 uh and you still have a passion for it clearly you still love it do you think you owe hockey anything like is there anything that you say to yourself you know what I owe blank to hockey like I have an
Obligation to do blank I really like right right now sometimes that some of the coaches that I work with I get to see them get opportunities and come on and and move on in coaching um my wife like I had mentioned she’s been with me
For for a long time I love the fact that we together and a lot of her have been able to help a lot of causes and do a lot of different things through organizations my wife’s done an amazing job at connecting inside the organization and helping Charities and
Helping kids and um a lot of work that’s been really good for organizations um I don’t really look I haven’t really looked at it from that standpoint that you’re asking like what do I owe or where where do I have to go um I feel grateful that that inside of the
Organizations that we’ve been to we’ve been able to try and help um that team be successful do good in the community um try to be uh good Representatives uh for that organization uh I want to ask you specifically about the Rangers um right at the top of your division came
Out there’s been a little bit of a struggle last a little while what do you see like what what are you seeing there and so I think that um um you’re you’re right we once the season started I think we I think we came out maybe two and two
Or 500 in the first five or six games and then we had a push where we went on a roll and it it was probably you know early to mid December where we were first in the league and and sitting on top and things were I don’t want to say
They were easy but things were were good and our guys were working hard for wins as you know and I certainly know that inside of this league with so many good teams and so many players most likely the odds are that you’re not going to have a season that just continues to
Climb where you know you beat the next team in line by 30 points there is the odd time it does happen it might happened last year but um usually that’s not the case usually it’s a battle and It’s a Grind inside of that um you know
The last 20 games or so we’ve been we’ve been battling around 500 which is not where we want to be especially after the start that we’ve had but I do think that part of me sometimes is glad that we’re dealing with some adversity because we
Have to we have to work a little bit harder in the room we have to figure out things a little bit more as coaches and players and an organization in order to get back to a level where you are winning consistently there are times I feel like if you don’t go through some
Of that through the course of the year then maybe you’re not preparing as best you could for the playoffs I remember watch in the when I was um not working and I was went back to Florida I was watching the semi-finals and the finals especially the finals and it’s just a
Reminder of how hard it is to get there and how hard you have to play in order to be successful and if you’re not playing that way in December or January it’s for me it serves as a reminder that there’s a there is a definite path to
Become a Stanley Cup champion and you have to be down a road where you feel you’re on the path to do that and so to have some struggle and adversity through the course of the Season where now you can say okay we we’ve got our game back
On track or where we want to be you have to work for that sometimes and you have to fight for it so I don’t think it’s such a bad thing you got obviously you got to come out of it and start pushing in the right direction again but um I’m
Okay with having a little bit of adversity having to fight for something right last one you’ve been in the Stanley Cup final three times you know what it takes you’ve won one do you look at this team and say we can do this we have we’re we’re capable of this yeah I
Definitely I definitely do look at it like that I look at our goal tending I look at our defense I look at our group of forwards the skill level that we have I just a great group of guys that I get an opportunity to work with in New York
And so there’s a lot of things that are in place um it’s a it’s a hard journey I did learn this along the way it’s a hard journey to get there and put your hands on that thing and um like I said last year I made it a point to watch every
Game when I was out of it just as a reminder for myself on the what it takes to to be there and become Stanley Cup champions there’s also you know there’s probably a dozen coaches or teams that you could sit in my seat right now and you could ask them that same exact
Question and they’re going to answer exactly like I like I did which is what makes the Stanley Cup Playoffs incredible you know it’s the best it’s the best sport it’s the best round of playoffs in sports and um you know to be a part of it is is awesome I think we
Have great pieces and we have a great opportunity to do something great in New York we’re going to have to we’re going to have to go through the the Hoops to get there thanks very much welcome pleasure great thank you y That’s Peter Lavette head coach of the
New York Rangers uh we thank him for making himself available and the Rangers Communications Group for making him available as well really enjoyed sit I always love sitting down with coaches it’s kind of a pet favorite thing that I do general managers certainly as well owners rarely make themselves available
Uh coaches is always for telegram they’re communicators uh they’re built and hardwired to talk and we are only too happy to open the door for all of them here on the podcast again Shameless plug my blog rink fries has returned to sportsnet.ca uh the maiden voyage of
This year’s incarnation of the blog is available now in the meantime on behalf of Elliot and Dom have yourselves a wonderful hockey week we rejoin once again Friday morning for the next edition of 32 thoughts the podcast be good n
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