Well Snow White lost your arm and that’s a story we want to talk about tonight also an interesting thing happened in Small World in California that’s on the list too lots more all tonight on Park Center welcome to Park Center for December 3rd 2023 yes it’s already December we’ve been talking about Christmas since June so it’s actually almost here uh if you have not already please subscribe to wdw andtv for more great content and give us a thumbs up as
It helps people to find us we have a lot to talk about we’re going to try to fit it into 60 Minutes tonight with these fine folks starting with Stephanie how are you doing well Merry Christmas everyone it’s been Christmas for so long uh cila hi everyone I’m jealous of
Stephanie’s very festive backdrop I that’s where I want to get mine too one day yes yes life goals and uh Ally how are you how are you Ally wow I’m great how are you I’m great thank you for dressing up like uh Shave Ice I appreciate that that’s very nice of you
Um I know yeah you you really bring it and and I love that about you every single solitary week thanks for being here um so a lot of interesting things to talk about tonight can’t wait to get started with you guys and again if you have not already give us a thumbs up
Helps people to find us last week we did a show for the the marathon if you haven’t caught that already go catch that on wdwnt after this after this we got some good stuff we’re going to be talking about so let’s talk about Snow White Dopey done or dirty that’s that’s
How I that’s how I feel like we need to start this one uh we talked about last week for y’all who weren’t on the show that Mark Twain broke his neck um and then of course there’s been some weird things happening with the Frozen sisters and then dopy uh got a little aggressive
With Snow White and ripped off her arm uh you can see it hang and dangling here from uh from his hand and this has happened at the uh seven doar mind train roller coaster if you’re not familiar they took all of the animatronics or some of them out of the uh Snow White’s
Scary Adventures after they closed that down they put them it was a nice little homage they put them in this little cottage as you get to the end of the attraction and you look in and you stare as you sit there you’re stuck waiting to
Get to the station and you just stare at this horror that is happening this like horror show happening inside the window here we’ve had a lot of issues with animatronics recently Stephanie um would this one terrify your children I feel like it probably would or would they
Just go what the maybe the little ones the older ones would think it’s hilarious and say give him a [Laughter] hand oh ow okay go ahead but maintenance honestly maintenance I don’t understand the issues here I mean I feel like what you said Rob when you were working on
Living with the land didn’t you go through the attraction to make sure everything was working properly before it opened isn’t that what they’re supposed to be doing well I I was talking about it for journey into imagination because uh live uh listen to the land we just would basically have to
Push the boats back into boat storage there wasn’t like oh you know what that caca plant is a little a skew let’s fix that we weren’t doing that um Counting the tilapia in the uh no we weren’t doing that but in you know in the um journey into imagination we would ride
Through and and get to you know make sure all the show elements were correct and I assume maintenance would as well I don’t think that they would have left it up to somebody like me making you know minimum wage in the Parks to decide if the attraction was up to Snuff or not
But it was just like an extra Safeguard to be able to make sure that this didn’t happen so um and cilo you were on when we were talking about the Mark Twain thing or no I don’t know if that was me okay well
I I let me just get your take on it then because again we also had like Carousel progress I feel like every other month somebody’s hand falls off yeah yeah I mean I I kind of wish I could have like been there to see this
Live because it just I I wonder if I would have noticed at first like I feel like it’s one of those things where you know you go so quickly through that section um sometimes it stops a little bit there but like it’s like are the animatronics alive like are are they
Like not getting along what’s going on um um but I guess in some ways it also is just kind of fascinating this kind of thing doesn’t happen more often when you consider how intricate some of these are but I’ll be honest like it’s not like these are like kylo Ren where he’s doing
Like this whole dance sequence in Rise of the resistance like it seems pretty basic so I don’t I don’t know how that happens Dopey what’s going on I’m sorry tell me about the kylo ren dance sequence you know like I feel like the animatronics and Rise the resistance
Like I’m always just amazed because I’m like how do those work at all yeah it’s like a whole thing he bends his hand it’s a dance sequence he’s Michael yeah Ally all of these are at Disney World what’s up with Disneyland you guys just have better maintenance out there or
What uh I think we have a little bit better maintenance but honestly like I’m at a point where I just walk around with my phone on like camera ready because at this point I just don’t know what’s going to happen anymore like especially in Florida I just it I don’t know what’s
Going on like let’s get the maintenance under control like losing arms losing hands and that will segue into yeah the next topic of I was literally about to say speaking of not what’s going not knowing what’s going on last last week yeah last week we were on uh 3: to 5: in the
Afternoon east coast and then that night uh this interesting thing happens where this gentleman uh decided to take off his clothes and uh and walk through the it’s a small World attraction in Disneyland um he was found uh I guess eventually stopped at the outside of the
Attraction fully nude uh and uh by a cast member and there was this interesting picture of the cast member talking to him while he’s nude and I just just like I would love I would pay any money to know what that cast member is literally saying to that dude right
There like you know like sir sir no actually it was friend hello friend friend you’re going to need to you’re going to need to not be naked friend you’re going to need to get out of the water friend um you know what at that point we’re not calling them friend okay
They can get something else fair enough but you know step Stephanie you and I talked about this a little ahead of time because uh you know there the question is is is he okay is it is it a like a mental illness that he like did he have
Anxiety did he have an attack was it a situation where maybe he was inebriated or under the influence of something or something that you mentioned is that and and I don’t see this in this case but you mentioned like was he trying to get Tik Tok famous I don’t think that was
The case uh normally you have your buddy film you you do it real quick you grab the Cucumber get back in the boat and and you don’t you don’t look back this one looks like it’s a little bit a little bit more Troublesome yeah so I agree with you the
Cucumber incident absolutely was caused by inebriation I think if you watch that video you can definitely tell she’s been drinking around the world um but this one um in in all seriousness one in 25 uh one in five people that’s about 20% of the population suffers from a serious
Mental illness and that’s nothing to really laugh at um I will also add that people who suffer from schizophrenia oftentimes have their first psychotic break when they’re in their teenage or 20-some year old so it’s very possible that this is the case I don’t know why it happened you know during the boat
Ride in particular um but he definitely like you said maybe he was uh inebriated maybe he had a substance that he had taken prior to um so yeah I I feel like while we can laugh and say as someone Meed it truly is a Small World After All
Um it’s not mental illness is really not something to be laughing at so you know hopefully his family has sought help and there’s no shame in going to counselors and seeking you know medical medical help yep uh Ally you were you got some play byplay from out out
West uh not really play byplay but I remember being on the beach in Hawaii when it happened thinking oh wow this is interesting uh I went on the ride Wednesday and on it again today and in line that was pretty much all people were talking about you know kind of
Joking and you know like what Stephanie said like it seems like it’s was probably some kind of mental illness which you know in the scheme of things is actually really sad and hopefully this individual is getting the help that he needs but like when you look at it
You know everybody’s fine at this point like it is a little bit funny kind of looking at it like this guy just throwing his clothes all over the Ride Like the the video trail of Destruction as it happens and like from the part where he took his clothes off to where
There’s that image of him outside like that’s not short like that is a long way that this individual swam or walked or however he managed to get outside like that’s it’s almost impressive actually actually but I I get it I’ve been stuck on that ride for 30 minutes with that
Song and it I mean I can see where it would happen it’s it’s sad and and hopefully this individual is okay but it is kind of a little bit of a joke at Disneyland right now people are definitely talking about it and Rob is muted yep that happens some time to time
When I’m looking stuff up um so uh I was looking at a couple comments from the chat Neco uh was saying that she had read that it was um drug related um and someone else said yeah and someone else said that they didn’t think that that would that anxiety would cause that I
Think it could I mean I again you know if you’re just stuck there and that happens a lot in It’s a small world as you’re just stuck there and you just feel like you have to get out maybe you felt like you were con confined by your
Clothes too that would be a thing and if he’s sitting in that pool like he was maybe that’s the thing I don’t know but yeah definitely the one thing that I I would like to call attention to which has nothing to to do with him is
SNL did a bit about this and anytime SNL starts doing something about Disney I kind of like like cringe like please don’t don’t hurt Disney like please don’t hurt him um so uh Colin Joe did a bit and about this man arrested for walking around nude on on it’s a small
World and the first thing I thought is as much as I do the thumbnails for news tonight Tom corus would have my hide if I used the Disney World it’s a world to talk about a story that was happening at the Disneyland It’s a Small World see
That’s the thing I’m nitpicking here is that they’re like they’re talking about and he used the words Disneyland he used that word and he said and he showed that picture from Disney World I was like ah come on you guys are better than that really like do some do a little bit of
Research figure that out um but anyway the story that they told was Boy wouldn’t that be an awful thing to have to tell your cellmate was the reason you were in jail like you’d have to you’d really have to make up something different um let’s move on and
Talk about uh let’s talk about the Haunted Mansion at the Magic Kingdom um there is work begins to fix the broken Haunted Mansion cobblestones of the Magic Kingdom you have a special guest who just arrived there why wouldn’t you have rolled out the Cobblestone carpet a little bit earlier for the hatbox ghost
Um man this is the moment that uh that every like Disney World reporter for wdw andt like dreads is they finally drop the the The hatbox Ghost and you’ve got to be at the park making sure you get on the attraction to get that footage and I
Saw that unfold in slack that morning there was like oh it’s it’s here it’s here you know we talked about how long it was taking to to to actually happen and cila you you had a little like sort of the equivalent of an advent calendar to countd down haven’t you because
You’ve been so excited about the Hat Box no I no I’m excited for uh Disney World to get it um I’m interested to hopefully have a chance to see it for myself sometime soon it’s interesting because now having finally seen like Haunted Mansion the movie I’m kind of like you
You know you need the hbox ghost um for the attraction but I’m I’m I’m excited for Disney World that they have this finally yeah yeah it did take uh it it took longer than it should have again I mean we we know that it was a big deal in the
Movie and then the movie came out what July and then here Halloween you got all these Halloween parties would have been a great time nope don’t have it then when’s the best time to drop it December I I guess I don’t know uh Ally again you’ve got you’ve already you’re like we
Already have this out west right we don’t we don’t really care uh no I care like I think it’s a nice addition for them I do think it’s funny I think it was actually November 30th that it dropped right because they said it would be there by the end of November and they
Really ran that up rain so the last day but yeah like you I was watching watching that unfold on slack and I don’t know how many times Eric and went around trying to get the the video of the the head and switching between the two but uh it’s pretty funny but yeah I
Think it’s a nice addition for Florida I’m happy they have it and excited to see that in a month yep Stephanie yeah I was very disappointed that I was literally there the day before Thanksgiving and they didn’t have it it was already covered still covered
I mean so I was bummed but I’m glad that they still have the floating candleabra it might take a little bit away from that but I’m glad that they still have that there yeah no that’s a good point I mean again we we’ve been hearing that this thing was coming since d23 Expo
2022 and again it’s a it’s it’s technology that already exists and they knew where they were going to put it as of destination d23 yeah I don’t know it just it seems like it was one of those things that should have been up a while ago happy
That it’s here we’re all very it’s very controversial where it sits inside the the Haunted Mansion at Magic Kingdom but you know he is finally in place and I I’m with you I I can’t wait to go in there and see it uh and it be a part of
It now because it’s actually one of my favorite Parts about the Disneyland one when there’s not Haunted Mansion holiday it’s one of my favorite Parts about the Disneyland one is coming around that that corner of the attic and being able to see him uh it it’s just it’s it’s a
Great illusion and I’m glad it exists let’s move on to zootopia because zootopia is uh is opening soon in uh Shanghai and it’s one of those things where I wish there was one here we’ve talked about that a lot uh not just because they have sippers and popcorn buckets because they’re freaking
Adorable and uh Ally can you hook me up with these can you run out real quick I cannot I mean if you want to pay for my flight uh the picle sipper and this little like you know you know the Hop family uh like carrot cart with popcorn
That looks that looks amazing uh and then we have the um Hot Pursuit attraction which looks really really good uh there’s the vehicle we’ve got a little bit of a preview of that uh we’ve seen Nick and Judy um you know some previews of them but just honestly
There’s this little video you can catch it on wdwn NT uh.com and it’s I mean I I am so excited for this I wish I could go like it everything about it looks like it was like that whole John Hammond they spared no expense um yeah but out of all
Of us on here the most likely to go I would assume would be Stephanie so Stephanie um when are you going and what do you think I don’t know I would love to be able to go I I honestly think I’m closer to going to Japan than I am to Shanghai
But anyway um I watched all the videos it looks great the thing that was really interesting to me is that they have puppets you know they have this little show where Judy comes out and um Nick is it just all the um oh this what’s his
Name the sloth guy he’s in there too flash thank you and so it’s really cute and they come out of the windows and you’re standing there on the street and you’re watching them interact it reminded me of the Muppets thing that they had at the Magic Kingdom that needs
To come back yeah no I agree uh it’s a salute to All Nations but mostly America um I yeah the like but but again the they do of the things the puppets are very cool that’s a neat touch and I hope they continue that I assume at a park
Like Shanghai they will continue that but the animatronics that are outside those are cool um the the windows where it looks like you’re looking into the dance studio with the guys but the the video and I I don’t think it was in this but I saw the video somewhere else of uh
Gazelle whoa like I don’t know how she moves in that one but I mean this is the dark Rod the CH BOGO there she is look like yes I mean yeah like you know it’s it’s Shakira all the way it’s really kind of it’s very cool um I don’t know
When we’re going to get this uh State Side I assume if we do it’s going to Disneyland um but I don’t know what what are you thinking Alie I’m thinking it looks really really cool and I do need to get out there at some point yeah Tronics look amazing the
Details look great um just looking at the map it does look like it’s kind of a small land but that’s super nitpicky but everything looks really really cool I think if anything that’s going to go to Animal Kingdom no I don’t you don’t have room here no no no that’s not because
Again we thought it was right they were going to take the dinosaur attraction and make it this Hot Pursuit but then the claw Houser animatronic they announced that destination d23 is going to go in the tree of life for a zootopia movie to replace uh tough to be a bug so
For those of us that love tough to be a bug it was a tough uh announcement to hear and then on top of that you’re going to replace that uh you’re going to put claw house in there pretty much like confirming there’s not going to be a zootopia land now we already know
They’re going to do like uh the the the tropical rainforest area uh which is going to have like Encanto and um Indiana Jones in Dino Land instead of zootopia and Moana I like the first plan so much better but this to me seals the deal if you’re putting the claw
Clawhouse animatronic in inside the tree of life you’re not putting it into a zootopia land I agree I’ve said this for years that they should take what is rafiki’s plantet watch take that tea train do something where they do like a Hogwarts Express and the outside looks
Like one thing the inside looks like you know zootopia and a train you’re taking to zootopia and you get out there and then you have it all outside of the regular Animal Kingdom aesthetic because the regular Animal Kingdom aesthetic is very natural and this is much more
Cartoony so I would love to see that happen it doesn’t look like that’s going to happen so uh before we move on from this anything else you want to add Cala I mean I just think all of this looks great and because chances of me
Making it to Shanghai are slim um I just am sad that like we don’t have concrete plans to have this um State Side I hope that we get some updates but it’s interesting like this is not even an IP that I’m particularly interested in but it’s still I think looks really great
The ride gives me kind of Remy Vibes um but in the best way so uh I I think it’s exciting okay well uh yeah I don’t yeah I don’t know that we’re going to see anything like that but uh I mean it took five six years just to uh to get Epcot
Up to Snuff so I don’t know how long it would take us to build a zootopia but you know what fingers cross it actually comes I still think that if it does it would be more Disneyland than it would be Disney World so it would be a good uh
It would be a good addition to Disney California Adventure since nothing else in that Park seems to make sense for California anymore why not throw zootopia in there it does not I don’t know no it doesn’t car chases oh there you go perfect perfect cila built the bridge
And now all they need to for that’s that’s it that’s it all right let’s let’s talk about uh Epcot because the uh Walt statue a little bit of controversy about the fact that you know um the the drawing does not match what actually uh what actually is taking
Place here that’s that’s a little disappointing uh the dreamer statue uh the dream Walt the dreamer statue has been installed uh we’ve seen pictures of it I guess you can go sit next to him uh but this is what we thought was going to happen some sort of a stoop that you’d
Be able to sit on and see uh spaceship earth in the background and we’re not seeing that now so that’s that’s a little disappointing this is all supposed to be open and the walls are supposed to come down and we’re supposed to be seeing World celebration next or
This coming week it’s supposed to be happening for Walt’s birthday which is on the 5th so um I I want to get your y’all’s take on that one but um at the same time uh you know one thing we know is not going to be complete is that
Communic core Hall we talked about this a little bit on the show on Sunday that communic core Hall is still being built and it looks like it’s going to be kind of cool I I have the feeling with all of this mirror um uh sighting though that you know it
Looks a little bit more mirrored than spaceship earth does that we’re going to start seeing like it really creating a lot of heat next to that and they’re going to go ah Zack Ridley’s gonna go it looks great but man everything around here the plants can’t grow it’s like
Scorched Earth so uh Stephanie let me throw it to you first what are your thoughts on the on the the Walt statue are you are you upset that it’s going to be different or do you just not care I wonder based on the concept art if it wasn’t supposed to go somewhere where
Closer to where the Moana attraction is and I think that’s because I I have a great picture of my kids you know holding up the Glo like holding up spaceship earth kind of thing with an unobstructed View and and when you look at the concept art it was kind of off to
The side I don’t know maybe I’m just reading too much into it but then they had the Moana idea and that worked great and so they had to move him to the back and yes you have that uh I I don’t know I guess it’s the lounge or something for
Spaceship behind there is that what that building is that is going to obstruct The View but I call blasphemy that they put the same tiles on communicore that are supposed to be just for spa of birth no but these are shiny like I said they’re going to just burn everything
Around them like um yeah I I think this happened look like that this happened in Vegas there was this huge lot that they built uh for festivals and then I think that the windows of the Bellagio maybe just reflect down on it and just create this just burning parking lot and it’s
Like oh man we should have thought about that uh maybe it won’t maybe it’ll be fantastic I don’t know I I I don’t want to put Zack Ridley down he brings us yeah he brings us some interesting things CA rubber sold shoes yeah exactly cila I
Mean just we talked uh and the group that was on again last Sunday talked about this but just Bringing Down the Walls being able to walk through Epcot again right yeah absolutely I think it’s huge and to be honest I’m really excited for um communic cor and just hopefully
To have that kind of an Innovative space I like the tiles and now I’m curious to go like stand under them in the hot sun and see what happens um but about the Walt statue like I I actually think it looks good especially when you zoom out
I like that it’s a pretty larg looking um bench or sitting area my one thought I have is anytime you have those statues you tend to get um the photo pass photographers near them and and a line and so instead of it just kind of being this cool moment where you’re just
Casually sitting next to Walt you know it kind of turns into this photography moment and this you know Memory Maker moment um and I kind of hate that but I I’m I know there just probably is no way around it unless there were more Walts around the
Parks that for every country that would be weird it would be like it would be like the chef gustau thing right when he had all those different like here’s here’s his Mexican meal and he’s wearing a sombrero uh yeah that would be a little bit strange I I love this concept
And it looks to me to be very um I don’t know just a very chill thing that I was hoping to see and I I agree with you cila it does make it seem like it’s going to be like Photo pass guys setting righted up in front of it and the only
Way you’re going to get up to it is if you’re there to get a a photo pass and uh picture but um I I have still joked about the fact that you have Walt sitting at the base of Epcot looking into the park that he didn’t
Want like I mean and and they try to they try to spin it a lot of times and again I I kudos for them calling it Epcot and trying to make it edutain edutainment and and kind of the on the cusp of the future and all that kind of
Stuff kudos for them because what you know watching if you’ve watched behind the attraction season two with Epcot they said a lot of the things like no one was thinking about things like voting districts and all these other things that were like real world problems that would have been they would
Have faced had this been a living community like he wanted it to be but I do think it’s weird for him to look out on to like Hey Hey look it’s connections Cafe um I I don’t know anything before Mo the Journey of water inspired by the
Thing I didn’t know about um anything before we move on here no I mean I think we need maybe need to wait to see what it actually looks like with the walls down it might be okay like I’m always for more things and what you brought up about the photo
Pass actually makes a lot of sense so hopefully it’s not filled with photo pass people um but yeah let’s just walls down I’m here for the Epcot themed walls hopefully they don’t Scorch the plants and hopefully the statue looks great like I’m I just I want it all to work
Can be done like I just it needs to be done I mean am I wrong about that like I’m looking at this image and it definitely looks like now we need to find out yeah I mean it definitely it definitely looks like a reflective
Surface to me like I I you know and I mean here let’s take one more look at it though it looks like something I mean am I like I yeah I don’t know it should be interesting cuz I mean you know the Florida heat is fine right there’s
Nothing wrong with the sun being down it’s all good everybody will be absolutely fine um let’s talk about this speaking of of Epcot as you know that when they first brought uh the idea of this you know this renovation of Epcot out they were going to do um a a
Spaceship earth overhaul they were going to go in and it was supposed to be at least like a oneyear take the track out clean it all up you know fix everything inside and make it you know make it awesome and then you know right before they were going to close it
Down for that year Co happened and they took that one off the shelf so I guess now it’s going to be one of those things that stays there for a while uh but for something that needs an overhaul and is was supposed to get an overhaul for them
To fix one little thing in it that we don’t I I didn’t even know was not there there’s so many things not there from the last iteration that I don’t know what should be there anymore I mean you know you’ve seen the bit the one I’d
Like to see them bring back and we’ll talk about what this is in a sec well let’s let’s talk about what this is first so basically they brought back the water effect uh and so when you’re in the scene with the Phoenician the Phoenicians if you’re looking over to
The left of the Phoenicians if you look over to the right there’s a water effect with like a a reflection on the water and I’m like okay like all right I mean attention to detail I guess but my my the coolest thing that I always loved
Was when you get to the Rome scene and there the uh and Dame Judy Dench says something about like call it the first you know information Super Highway and there used to be a little like a you know a a Roman gladiator like going on the you know through the through the
City it was an animated thing that would go through the city and disappear and then he’d come back again seems like an easy thing to fix like bring that back um but you know all of the things we saw that were going to happen with this cila
And um I mean is this the thing that we’ve been missing tell me you know what one little spark of inspiration like you know honestly when I saw this I was like I was excited because I was like oh maybe it means they’re working on it and you know
They’re doing it bit by bit because they don’t want to close the ride especially during this time of year and you know the big renovation may be done but maybe you know they can do it piece by piece and they feel a little bit inspired I
Take it as a good sign and I welcome any and all you know renovation refresh um to the ride because I agree I think I think it needs it but it’s very much below um so I hope they keep going what’s next yeah uh yeah that’s what they’re you
Know it would be great if we would think that it’s going to be something like the three caberos when they added them to the the the boat ride when they just when we woke up one day and we were not expecting it to go from the screen to
Three of the original animatronics from the Mickey Mouse review that uh perfect that’s the kind of thing uh but I would I mean let’s wake up and see this one day like let’s wake up and see and the new animatronics and all of that stff in there I think that would if we
Could just do that that would be great Stephanie any thoughts on this one no keep my Papyrus and and pharaoh and everything keep those guys add more don’t take away just add I think I’m with cila I think someone saw a light bulb out and they just went and switched
It wow okay Ally before we move on I I agree with that add to it fix the things that need to be fixed I mean I don’t want to deal with that ride being for a really long time but it does need some love I do feel like the screen at the
Beginning with the mammoth was a little bit better last time I was on it so I feel like like we’re getting there just little details here and there but that ride needs all the love and deserves everything yeah do you do you guys ever take anybody on it and it’s their first
Time on it and you’re just as excited as can be and you get on with them and they’re like what like what is this yes happened to me two weeks ago okay all right exactly you’re like oh you’re going to love this you’re going to oh my gosh this is my favorite it’s
An actual attraction inside of the the beacon of this park and they’re looking and they like this Jib Jab video at the end is just not well executed I thought it was because I had my hat on before and I like pull my hat off and I’m like
Nope it’s not because of that it’s still really it’s still really bad um all right so let’s move on to this one um so there was cast members suing Disney because uh they were part of the patina group and they were they were working uh in the Italy Pavilion as as uh weight
Staff and they had the cultural ambassadors come back which I love the cultural representative program I think it’s amazing it’s it’s one of those things that really makes Epcot Epcot and we lost it during covid because they they weren’t traveling and they brought it back in 2022 so apparently what
Happened was they to they they pulled these people aside and said hey we’ve got two people from the cultural program will you guys train them and then once they got trained they were let go oo um I mean I I I guess I see the
Issue here but also I feel like um and Stephanie I’m going to throw this one right at you um I feel like we have a lot of problems with Staffing in the Parks anyway like how many times have you gone into I don’t know any restaurant at at Disney and it was so
Hard to get uh a reservation but you get in there and there’s like mostly empty tables cuz they don’t have enough weight staff doesn’t it seem like they could have found another place for these folks or I don’t know oh that happened to us absolutely at acres and maybe we were
Just kind of in between seatings or something like that but literally half of the restaurant was not filled so I was I was sort of shocked and there was a line waiting for people to wait to get in you know for their reservation so that was bizarre but um yeah I I feel
Feel like patina don’t they have like other restaurants isn’t space 220 one of theirs or is that a different group so I feel like they should have just said okay we’ll train these guys and then we’re going to have you go right over to space 220 which by the way is fabulous
That’s a great one so I feel like you know there’s definitely a need for people and they could have put them somewhere else they don’t have to just say see you well and there’s every possibility these guys just weren’t great I mean that’s a possibility right I mean we expect higher standard from
Disney uh but it does seem the way they explain it of like hey here’s two guys train them oh they’re up to speed good here’s your pink slip uh you know and maybe grab a a some pasta on your way out I don’t know what they do I have no
Idea but I I I do again I love the cultural uh program I think it’s great I ate at uh missure Paul that’s that’s a big drop for me because I i’ never eat there and I ate there and it was like the guy was from France and was talking
To us about uh all the food and you know it was really neat to have that conversation with him I know that when my son was younger and he was just obsessed with Japanese culture going into the the department store and like being able to talk to them in Japanese
Was like I’m sure they were just like oh yeah that’s really good it’s not uh but I mean they would you know they but but it but it’s it’s such a neat part of this whole process and so I don’t know I think that’s it’s pretty cool that it
Happens but I know that it’s a little sad to to see how this shakes out uh cila any thoughts on this before we move on um I will just say I agree I think that having the cultural representatives in the world showcase like that’s what makes the world showcase unique and I
Remember during covid you know when it was my fellow Americans I still visited but you know it it was a little lackluster compared to um you know being able to go to Germany and you know they’re like actually speaking to each other in German and I will just tell you
I was in um France last time and I literally met like the French version of myself like I was mere image of me but she was French and it was so fun we had a moment so you know but I absolutely like I understand you know the importance of like the culture
Representatives but yeah like it just seems like it would have been so easy to just move them so that they’re not you’re not laying them off and losing their job especially because we keep hearing about to your point Rob we’ve got Staffing shortages we’ve got Staffing shortages that’s why X Y and Z
Hasn’t come back or not at full capacity like okay well then why are we laying people off hello yep exactly uh you know you were talking about like the the um the the the folks that like you know who were wearing the flag shirts during covid where like the
Parks were open again but we didn’t have the cultural program back and there is something a little less magical uh uh with Tim from Milwaukee seating you into the Frozen attraction rather than it being you know someone from you know I don’t know Norway way can can I just say
And you know this may not be for everyone but go to Chef’s it’s Chef’s day France right Chef Restaurant yeah thank you the FR exactly um tell them it’s your birthday 175 days straight of dualingo right here exactly believe me I know but but listen go there tell them
It’s your birthday and you will have a bunch of like I mean in my case it was like a bunch of really attractive French men singing Happy Birthday to me and it wasn’t even actually my birthday but it was wonderful I don’t do that everyone I’m telling you also Italy also yes Italy
Yes y’all want me to step away for a little while you can continue this conversation let us just have a moment that’s fine yeah exactly knowled hacks from the women of wdwn NT yeah exactly so the hottest ones are over there at okay anyway Let’s uh before we
Lose this completely let’s let’s move on to jollywood everybody’s favorite topic now I want to go to um I want to go to Stephanie first on this one because again you were at jollywood you’ve been at those jollywood nights but uh a couple things that came up uh to talk
About one is the fact and we’ve talked about this before that you know Oogie Boogie comes out you have to beat people up to get a spot in line to be able to not buy a ticket like that’s how hard it is to get a ticket to Oogie Boogie and
Then uh you know Mickey’s Very Merry Christmas Party is sold out I believe there were they added some tickets back Etc but jollywood nights this is a brand new event they only had like 11 dates and if you look at the availability calendar there are five left and only
One is sold out uh only because it’s a Saturday I guess but the Monday and Wednesday even the ones that were sold out are not sold out anymore H um so I mean it’s it’s one of those things where I’m like I you know I I get you know we
Talked about this on one week when we said you know was it the reviews that might be keeping you away or was it the the dollar amount for this event or what might have kept you from going to jollywood but there are a lot of uh I
Think unique offerings at this one and one of them are these characters and then we have a guide on wdw.com tips for getting the most out of seeeing the characters uh we’ve got reviews of food and we had a few more roll out just this
Past week of the food that they have uh there and this one this one looks interesting it looks like it’s a melting Christmas ornament but I don’t think it’s supposed to look that way but it looks pretty cool this one I thought was neat especially uh because my daughter
Is a vegan I would consider like you know grabbing a bag of those and and uh and bringing them back to her but but um you know we we talked about it a little bit but again Stephanie you were there just over the Thanksgiving break um
Should we believe the hype is it is it is it not great all these offerings look amazing to me it’s a fun event I I had fun we brought all the kids they had fun um so you know if you’re wanting to see all of the characters that’s all you’re going
To be doing pretty much all night long because the the lines are gonna they’re spread out I think we talked about this rob you know the Magic Kingdom at the Christmas party yes there’s so many rides and but everything is sort of kind of compact like you’re there on Main
Street you’re watching the show you’re waiting for the parade then the fireworks like you really don’t have to move very far unless you’re wanting to ride the rides well then for for Hollywood Studios just kind of spread out to me and then if you want to see
The characters you have to wait like an hour at least you know to see them so you’re you’re missing things the show that they have with Miss Miss Piggy and Kermit is adorable that was by far the Highlight for us the kids all loved it
Um my husband and I he even thought it was great you know so that’s saying something but I wish that the um band outside the Hollywood Tower of Terror with the um tiptop Club I wish it was more of like a Clubby Vibe and they did
Have the bar there the drinks were fine everything was good there um but and the band was phenomenal don’t get me wrong but I wish that they had had maybe some 1940s is like swing dancers or something kind of ghostly looking out there and maybe there just wasn’t enough room but
Yeah I felt like if you want to see the characters first and then maybe see the second show of the night or the later shows of the night and then the rides they were basically just walk on I mean because people were just in doing these
Other things so it was fun they handed out free coasters at the end that was interesting what you guys got free stuff in Florida wow yeah so e there easy there Ally come on sorry sorry sorry at the Christmas party they give you the ornaments right and it was a little like
A tin soldier this one you know for this one but the jollywood my kids are like oh it’s an ornament and they’re grabbing it he they go and we go oh it’s coasters so we got like 25 coasters now say jollywood nights wow okay those will
Look great in your living room I’m sure um you know Stephanie is one of the nicest people you’re just one of the nicest people and and I and I asked her for information on jollywood and she put it in here and this is very uncharacteristic uncharacteristic of you
I think in what you said to me uh in your message back you said I didn’t even attempt that stupid boarding group for Rise of the resistance yes true which which don’t disagree with there shouldn’t be so many people at a hard ticketed event that you have to limit any single attraction
Whether it’s Tron during the Christmas party or uh you know or I don’t know they don’t do that I don’t think Oogie Boogie they they limit like how many times you can do monsters after dark or anything like that right so yeah it’s just weird to me that they um that they
Limit this on on a hard ticket event if that’s the problem you need to have less people at your hard ticket and event and thank goodness they do a jollywood so you know maybe you maybe you’re going to be in luck when you go there who knows I
I still am looking forward to going to jollywood um so thank you for the information I appreciate that let’s move on speaking of coasters the I want to talk about Tiki mugs but before I do part of it that I wanted to throw in with that is that we have this new
Coaster at jock Lindsay’s Hangar bar from d23 that was originally supposed to be released with dial of Destiny uh five months ago so you know um that you know Q the buddy said says uh Disney does everything on time video from wdw andt but um I I’m looking at this going okay
So Not only was it dial of Destiny hit the theaters then left the theaters then came on you know like for for you know on demand and then now it’s finally on Disney plus and then they drop the coaster so um you know right when no one
Cares about them at all those are there but uh what you can do with these coasters is that you can use them for your lovely Tiki mugs because they have this hippopotami Thai Tiki mug uh which you know this one’s blue that’s the difference uh they’ve had them before
But this one is blue so if you were like a I really want a hippopotami Thai Tiki mug but I don’t like the other three colors here’s what you do is you go get the blue one and then this Trader Sam’s barrel uh that came and we kind of
Teased this before uh yeah but what I love about this is this distribution system which Ali I I assumed you were the one that had to do this but but it’s like yeah this was me what the heck like is this okay I mean let me let me
Explain let me like if if you don’t remember when they had the hatbox ghost release this summer my other half had to wait in a five hour line in the Sun so like that is not a better system um what they have been doing the last probably
Two years is you have to wake up at 5:55 in the morning get on your Disneyland app and then at 6:00 a.m. you have to hope that the app works place a mobile order for your mugs for your window and then go pick them up now for this one
The system crashed at 6:00 a so I continued to try until about 6:20 and then I finally got my mugs but it it’s it’s better and it’s worse like you lose some of like the going to the bar getting your drink and all that but if
You want to just dip in grab your mug and leave like you can be in and out in 15 minutes um this was the first time they didn’t have like a big dis display thing usually they have that where you can take photos and stuff but I don’t
Know once we finally got the mobile order it was super super quick but um I walked through there today they still have the mugs available so you can sit down get your drink with the mug um so I’m a little surprised they’re still available but it’s really really cute oh
I have two of those over there you’re not special ra I don’t have that one I need I need that one that you just drank out of and I will be getting the blue one and that new the the submarine the new Nautilus too that one came out yeah we
Talked about that but uh this one I I think I’ve told this that was not good I think I’ve told this story before that I know right to The Mug never mind everyone listening don’t do that to The Mug um the mug the first time I went
This I got this at the gr gr and I don’t normally collect Tiki mugs but I was like okay it’s a container I I clearly want that um and I I I pointed to it on the menu and the the bartender said if you can’t say it I cannot give it to you
And so he made me say hippopotami Thai and I was just like I don’t I don’t I don’t I don’t need to do that that’s fine um but again it is it is kind of ridiculous it’s gotten to this point like the five hour waits for the figment
Popcorn bucket that you know it’s like okay go over to not the restaurant where you want to order this drink no Heavens no don’t go there go over to uh the people with the iPads who will then send you over to to The People Under The Umbrellas at station one are you station
Three are you station one yeah and then yeah and then we go over here and station two you check the mug and then station three you can swap out the mug you can swap it out one time if you don’t like your mug but yeah I mean now
They have it at a point where like we’re paying full price and we don’t even get the drink with it anymore so I I don’t know it’s all it’s a racket but I still go every time and I don’t want to talk about it I don’t want to
Talk too too much too much too much too much um I I don’t know I’m gonna cila do do you care at all about the tiky mugs probably not yeah yeah because you know what this this whole system is geared towards locals and APS so people like me
Who spend all of my hard-earned money and but to only go you know not only but you know I mean I make it out I don’t know a couple times a year every month maybe something but like I never am there when they have these exactly I see you I hear you Rob
So like you know I’m sad about it I I never catch these in person and I always just end up you know to be honest buying it on the secondary Market if I really want it you can’t do that that’s cheating that’s cheating me I’ll gra
It yeah actually I I I joked about that last week when we were talking about them wow no you you have earned the privilege rob you have earned the privilege uh okay I appreciate it uh let’s let’s talk about the candlelight processional let’s move on to that
Because at Epcot I love the candlelight processional um there have been some changes in the uh in the lineup for the Candlelite processional at Epcot um we had uh we lost uh and I’m looking for who we lost do you guys remember who we lost I can’t remember remember wasn’t it
Simu yes simu Leo and um who was the other person um wow you would have thought I would have remembered the oh uh and uh uh yeah it says an Margaret was removed so that was the other one who was removed yeah how how did I let that one
Slip my mind um but uh Ashley Xin is now uh is now added to the list which is you know I’m sure she will be great uh I saw uh simu um last year and he was great he and he was just so honored to be there
Like it was one of those things where you love to see that same way jod Benson seems to genuinely be excited to be at any of the places uh any of the Disney places where she is but uh the one I’ve never been to is the one at Disneyland
And I would assume that in Disneyland they get a higher caliber of star out there not necessarily just because they live there right they’re that’s where they are they’re out there and so Bri Brie Larson is narrating uh the candalite processional for Disneyland and uh you said you were out there today
Ally and they were they setting I was there yeah my friend’s literally sending me videos right now from that yeah I I could have actually gotten a decent spot but I came home to do this show so Rob you’re the priority I have actually never ever been to our candalite processional sitting
There for 12 hours does not it that doesn’t sound fun to me like I don’t want to sit there for 12 hours I don’t want to do it but they tell you a story me I will go but they tell you a story do they do sit there for 12 hours
No I’m not but do they do dinner packages for the ones in California I wouldn’t think so no you have to be invited like invited guests only get to sit and then people were camped out there this morning when I walked in at like 8:30 in the morning people were
Already camped out for their spot and wow it’s it’s insane like I don’t yeah it’s I don’t know like I was talking to my husband about it I’m like I don’t know why they don’t do it in that theater in the back in the fany celan theater and then there’d be way more
Space you’re out of the way like you’re not blocking Main Street or anything like I’m sure it maybe won’t be as pretty but you more people in and but like no no no no I get it I get it but what I think that they’re going to do I
I I would hope that they are making a larger space at Epcot uh in this communicore Hall cuz the back part of that toiing what we have at the American for to the e to the beat and the and the cite processional but maybe not I mean cite processional has always been at
American Gardens at Epcot maybe it’ll stay there but every time I’ve gone I have wanted to do uh a dining package only because I don’t want to be out in the cold I want to be like sitting in the theater and being able to be up
Close and see it I always enjoyed doing it the one time that I didn’t get to see it the whole time was we didn’t get there early enough to so we weren’t in under the cover and it was raining and it was Joe Morgan and so we basically
Stood way back at the American Adventure underneath the cover and could barely hear it I’m like I’m really glad we paid that extra money for this dining package it really killed um before we move on from this one Stephanie have you ever done it or uh the one at Epcot yeah last
Year last Christmas um I can’t remember the name of the actress but she’s an Italian actress but I would love to be there when Jordan Fischer does it I think that he would he’s going to be fabulous I’m glad to see his name on the list this
Year yeah very cool uh I want to talk about Disneyland food and I I threw everything for Disneyland food into one bucket so that I hope that Ally can tell us uh all about it but I mean everybody can talk about it the one thing I’ve got to bring up as a complaint
Ally is the pims test kitchen that they’re replacing the uh the candy bar with the cake I love the C Cy bar I did too yeah I didn’t eat the cake I don’t I mean I know Megan liked it but to me that doesn’t really seem like an upgrade
Personally I look at that that c bar candy bar was wonderful mine is s melting in the sun I remember that day um yeah I mean the cake looks good but not to replace the candy bar so I think temporary yeah I think it’s temporary so it should be candy bar hopefully will
Come back the first time my son and I went out to P i’ had been to pims already but the first time that I took him out to Pimp’s Test Kitchen we got the pretzel we both got the Big Chicken Little sandwiches we got whatever the
The the the Frozen drink of the day was and I went overboard and got the chocolate bar and to this day he’s like why did you get the chocolate bar and to make it worse to make it worse in two hours after the chocolate bar we had a
Dessert party at World of Color so yeah it I was so thankful for che and grapes on that plate I really was because I was like I I love sweets and I cannot anymore but that chocolate bar was insanely decadent and super cheap too like eights maybe for that thing a
Really good deal yeah it was great uh the other thing I’m looking at is this Tommy corus loves the guza dog from uh from Tokyo Disney SE and now you can get them you can just any of us can just walk up to San Fran Tokyo and get one of
These things are you kidding me yeah like look at us being like Tokyo um yeah looks like a we’re almost there it looks like a good little snack it’s got mushrooms in it so I can’t eat that unfortunately but it’s I mean that surve Aria definitely needed a little snack
And I think that’s a really good addition they steamed it well and then they’re adding smoke jumpers is adding um breakfast right that’s coming up wedes yep okay yeah it looks like there’s a what a burrito couple sandwiches a cold brew with chocolate which I’m really excited about and then
I was joking with my friends like hey maybe they should add alcohol to it and then I pulled up the menu and it looks like they’ve added alcohol to it so I’m so Happy Irish Cream breakfast C Brew is that what I will totally get that I will
Totally get that at 8 AM yeah7 oh I’m there I’m doing it well it’s 8 a.m. you don’t know how much you’re paying at that point you’re still half yeah uh haven’t had my coffee yet cila I I’d like to I’d like to put myself out there to say I don’t think
That Disneyland has enough good bre what do you think yeah when I saw that they were adding the breakfast I thought that was a great move because one of the things I noticed I feel like more and more people are rope dropping or if you are rope
Dropping you’re going to get to a point where you get a couple of rides done there’s still plenty of time and you’re like you know what let me get something to eat let me get some coffee finally um you know over in Disneyland I personally love to go for um the breakfast chimy
Chonga uh you have to get there early enough to make sure it’s still left so be careful of that but like it’s great to see that in DCA they’re also getting some more breakfast options um and I agree I think that they need it especially like Quick Service easy to
Get um I think it’s a good thing and it’s something that people will want thanks uh we’re getting close to time I do want to talk about uh I do want to talk about the uh the passholder perks um you know there are a lot of cool passholder perks I’ve talked
About this before that you have all these perks for magic key especially that Ally because I don’t have one um and yet yet you’re not they they’re not selling um the uh they’re not selling the magic key right now and so you have all these
Perks um one of the perks is that um your your monthly payment was delayed due to a third party processing issue that was that was quite a perk I feel like you know it’s like oh poor magic key and then they’re like no no no technical glitch we’re going to have
That on the East Coast too uh with that one so so that’s that is quite a passholder perk I don’t know did that mess you up at all allly no that my due date is like I think tomorrow or something so I avoided that yeah um but
Like from for legit like perks this uh this wish um poster which um I I know that you have that coming as the magic key and then also apparently they’re bringing it to Florida which again is unusual usually they go hey here’s where we’re giving the magic key people who
Can’t people can’t buy magic key but we’re going to give them a bunch of stuff but in Florida you can buy an annual pass but we’re going to give you less uh I don’t know that’s that seems complicated I’m not really sure how that works uh but it is a thing that works
Although they’re like yeah we will give you something remember that magnet you missed we’ll give you another shot at it um this kind of goes back to cila to what you were talking about about the mugs like you’re not always there when the mugs are there it’s like it’s like
They put out that figment magnet and you go hey that’s going to be really cool oh that’s only for like three days and I’m not going to be able to be there and then they put it out again you’re like oh you’re not going to be there again
Are they going to mail it to you no no they’re not going to mail it to you they won’t do that but what they will mail to you Ally as you know is they’re mailing you gift wrapping and gift tags and Ally Ally texted me and said wait I got
Some look at that what and she said she would do an unboxing for us oh my gosh oh nice because you know the California girl doesn’t get enough so here’s our Florida stuff cute so let’s see got little gift tags oh they’re like all the parks
That’s cute and we have gift rep with figments oh and Oswald come on screw that pment orange oh it’s cute and we got skating yeah then we got skating figment Dumbo Mickey mini bir there cute yeah there’s orange bird on there yeah yeah very cute this is so unfair what do
You mean UNF ours this is this is Florida from Florida Florida yeah this are you guys not Florida AP yes I totally am check your mailbox Stephanie they should be coming to you soon I that don’t know you know what though I again this is sometimes we we
Get a little negative on Disney this is surprise and Delight nobody I mean I I wasn’t out there going where’s my Where’s my holiday paper uh you know and yet they sent this out and it’s like it I it must have cost them a pretty penny
To do it yeah but oh there’s stuff on the other side what it’s reversible I’m getting so jealous you’re supposed to get this too have you decided which side you’re going to use when you wrap my present Ally you going to you mean your giant box of stuff
Upstairs yes that one you’re not getting this I’m keeping this oh it’s orange bird on the other side of the oh look at that oh don’t rip it don’t rip it don’t rip It careful okay Dar I can’t watch this anymore I can’t watch it anymore it’s too much I can’t I have to look away I have can I just say like listen I’m happy for all of you APS that you get this but what do I get for spending like $55,000 on a
Package hello where where are the tags that go on your luggage didn’t they used to send those out cila yeah like what no more the rest of us are just suckers no more you know what the that is that is true like uh but it’s usually
The reverse when you’re loyal to a brand like Direct Direct TV I always had an issue with because I was loyal to that brand and if you were new they’d give you like NFL Sunday Ticket for free and it’s like you know I’ve been a customer
For 10 years how about I get something they’re like nah n we got you we don’t really we don’t really need you you’re not going anywhere yeah we got you um but yeah that’s that’s great that they have that um I was going to talk about
World of Frozen uh we have talked about that a little bit but uh and then also the how do you pronounce that E I say eat or is it cor yeah um which is the new restaurant that’s opening up uh tomorrow at um at Disney Springs so
Looking forward to uh to getting reviews of that you can check out wdwn NT for that and much much more so thank you guys for being here with us tonight we did try to we did say we try to get you in and out in 60 minutes or less so
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We’ve got uh uh deep in the plus last week Stephanie was on uh talking about Robin Hood because she was a friend of frier Tuck and uh and so she you know we talked about that that was fun please go watch that and then this coming week
Patrick and I are going to talk about duck the Halls uh a Mickey Mouse short with Donald Duck where he decides he wants to stay for Christmas it’s I have so many questions so hopefully you’ll join us Wednesday night to talk about that Thursday for uh for news tonight
And then Friday for um I mean and then Sunday next Sunday we’ll be back for another episode of Park Center so thank you guys for watching we appreciate you here every single week thank you to everybody on the panel if you are a wigs member we do have a quick post show for
You after this so um if we don’t see you there we’ll see you next Sunday night have a great week and uh we will see you next time bye guys Bye get it get it get It perfect my my favorite still is the we have a Pinterest account it’s still there it’s still there I know I I should have taken that away and I’m gonna get in trouble someday when somebody says to me hey why
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