The boy Christmas brought so much joy couldn’t wait for the presents and laughter I couldn’t sleep late at night looking for Santa with light those are the memories I still remember then I became a man lost sight of who I am but right in front of me was
The answer cuz on Christmas I feel Joy and I turn back to a boy the answer is this day y Forever this is not a Christmas this is not a Christmas song this is God a Christmas this is God a Christmas song this is God a Christmas this is God of Christmas s this is God of Christmas this a Christmas Song Hello Star Wars fans do you know there are just 299 days until Christmas 2024 we’re under 300 it’s official we’re getting there hey uh we have a lot of Star Wars news today and uh I’ve got my friend Jason Ward with me from makingstarwars.net and the making Star
Wars uh show the YouTube talk about Star Wars real seriously let’s do it yeah yeah and uh Megan has says that she’s available today so uh we’re hoping to see uh Star Wars Meg jump in yeah kind of my know thing about the Star Wars Community makes sort of man you know I
See one of our one of our favorite oh I’ve got the little thing in front of me instead of behind me anyway uh I see that Matt Risman is in the chat and Matt Risman uh is such a fan of the sequels and he’s so excited
About the ray movie that he can barely contain himself his excitement is exuberant he he it’s it’s bubbling over his excitement for this Ray movie and anytime there’s any Ray movie news Matt Risman is the verse to jump on the story yeah hey there she is hey mag how
Are you doing so Hi man good how are you very good very good we were just uh we were just going to to talk a little bit about the ray movie before we get into some other things um and and I I talked to Jason just a little bit before the
Show because there’s there’s some confusion in the in the midst of the the the people out there and let me just let me just uh share this a little bit let me get this uh where is it I think it’s this one yeah let me share this so that
We can talk about this uh this production weekly has a list of all of the the things right says issue 1391 from February 29th and in this in this uh list you can find uh Star Wars there’s a big list in here and if you if you look you look you
Look you look wait a minute I saw it right here here it is Star Wars episode 10 A New Beginning oh that must mean that’s the working title of the new Ray movie no that’s the actual title that’s what it’s actually called it’s the actual title for real
Title uh but but that’s not the case and the story came out this week saying no no no no no and and I think Jordan Mason tweeted it no no no I you know I’ve talked to people Jordan Mason is just vampiredark chain companies that you
Know you when you see like an ad and it’s like oh look at look at hating christianson’s girlfriend she’s so ugly or something like that and you’re like what why would they make an ad like that then you’re supposed to click it and then you’re like in this like Perpetual
Like ad chain of fake articles that are like AI based on that stuff that’s what that’s where that started me and bestman have seen that story that title six times all from the fake madeup junk people so um what what needs to be understood is that production
Weekly or monthly or whatever it is what they clearly do is they use Google uh you know the Google keywords thing and they get Google alerts on certain things like Star Wars and whatever happens to be and so then they go and then when they see a bunch of stuff they go oh
That’s it then they just try to estimate when the production is going to start if they don’t get an official word on it from somewhere this one right here was a bunch of fake smoke was there was no fire where there was Smoke on this or was a bunch of
Fakeness and then they go and then they are like oh okay then that must be that must be going here they just slot it it’s it’s absolutely valueless it it does does not show there’s no inside track about any of that stuff at all it’s comp completely a worthless thing
If I were just reading Star Wars stuff I would never ever ever say anybody should pay attention to that unless somebody who has a source comes and says this is actually on like wherever they scrape this from is actually on and this title is junk it’s a madeup title from from
People that want to just get you to click links for for ads and now it’s being treated as for some reason and ended up in that Cosmic circus report that also had the real uh production working title for uh the production title for the Mandalorian grou which is
Also like a non-story because we have the title of the movie so uh oh we know what they’re doing business as in secret like Thunder Alley kind of situation so it’s like it’s a it’s a weird nonsense feeding in on nonsense kind of well well how are people supposed to
Look at production weekly then is production weekly an industry trade of any kind is it anything that people should ever look at yeah you know what if you’re if you’re if you’re a crew member and you wanna you want to go work on the new season of Justified yeah you
Should probably be following it you should probably be using it because it’s going to show you how where where to start looking at to like get jobs and stuff like that and when when it is some ABC schlocky courtroom drama production there’s absolutely nothing guarded about
It and it’s it’s probably a fine Source when you’re trying to glean Star Wars you know super Scoops out of it no it’s completely a worthless Endeavor that that has no absolutely no value at all and they they definitely would have some sources like in the industry like oh
Yeah I’m going to work on the big Cinderella liveaction series for Disney plus and they’re hiring 250 crew members they’re going to know from one of them when when those dates are but I could tell that in this instance right here like number one the the new beginning
Thing that’s just not real it’s just not real it’s it’s it’s fake it’s it’s false and then the the the uh but the uh you know Thunder Alley stuff that the other people reported that would be real murine filming in around June that’s real um but that’s all that’s that’s all
That there is to glean from it like at the end of the day that’s it’s not for you it’s not meant for people to go and then make articles about Star Wars off of they they have a bunk thing because they’re using bad info because the real
People aren’t going to get Disney and Lucas aren’t going to give them the real production stuff they don’t care they have no it means nothing to them for them for production weekly to know any of this stuff so it’s uh but like I said yeah if you’re trying to work on a
Sitcom or something like that production weekly would be you know it’s it’s it’s important or or it could help you so that’s that’s what it’s for but they they will report stuff that isn’t accur it that there’s nothing film that isn’t a real thing so so this so these names
Are just a byproduct of of the studios keeping things undercover Under Wraps like we know a thing is there there’s a thing and what they call the thing in production weekly is going to be what they can find in a Google search yeah that they’re they’re they’re just using
Keywords like keywords that come up and then they they know like like a let’s say like a disgusting film article comes out that says um the karate kids show Cobra Kai is going to be filming next next month right somebody says it the guy Johnny the guy
Who plays Johnny says I think we’re filming next month then uh that story will become a thing they’ll catch wind of it and they’ll be like okay there’s supposed to be a Kate kid Cobra Kai thing filming next month they they’ll slot it and then they’ll figure out like
Either figure out the real time or an estimated time they don’t tell you what the difference is I’ve actually contact written production weekly several times to ask about theories and methods about how they they do things to better understand it they would not I was very polite but they they never responded to
Anything any any inquiries there’s another thing in here says Lando right there yeah Lando is not filming yeah so it’s just there were stories there were stories because Donald look at what happened Donald Glover just did press for Mr and Mrs Smith in which Lando came up which means there’s a Lando
Production therefore they catch it then it gets slotted in as a thing that’s that’s on the on the horizon and it’s not it’s not really close I don’t I I I hope I hope I’m wrong that’d be rad if it was close but I don’t think so yeah
Yeah well very good that’s that’s sort of the discussion I want to have because as as uh we we talked people will see this and then they’ll create all kinds of uh content about something they read here and just understanding what are you reading what does this mean
And that’s that’s really what I I this is this is good so for for most of us too like in this thing this is this is the 20th time this has happened in two years so most of the people that are reporting this stuff as it’s as if it’s
Like real serious news they’re purposely being idiots to generate content it’s there is or they have a learning disability you guys could decide which one it is but it it doesn’t make any sense it doesn’t make any sense like at this point like I I don’t know I even
Feel like you guys in the audience should know this produ the the regulars should definitely know how this stuff works the fandom should be able to police itself on on this stuff like actually and they just don’t it’s really weird though but you say something that they don’t like about Boba Fett or
Something then oh they’re ready come on everybody let’s pile on you know it’s like can we can we get the the dumb stuff just kind of like worked out like as a community can we just be like hey you know what like we don’t know this I think well no no we don’t
Should right this is it this happens in my in my profession all the time as well right so like you you do some coding you’re you’re writing code and you think well everybody knows this thing and you’re like except they don’t you’re like but it’s so simple so easy it’s
Just so basic and uh we we constantly have to have little sharing uh things we call them we call them uh little code uh review things and where we share something dumb it’s like here’s how you set a date on a thing or you know like well who doesn’t know how to
Set a date on a thing well a lot of people don’t know that so okay something that seems simple Common Sense yeah basic to you may not be the same for uh everyone and this is why I I really wanted to lean into this today because I see this
Week uh this happening right we have a working title and bespin God bless him besin gave us an article uh talking about the working title for the man Mandalorian grou movie right yeah that was from the cosmic circus report yeah so in this uh if we if we read bestman story
Because I mean who does that who actually reads stories I mean I I read it you know that poor guy he his his his stupid British car rule thing they’re making him pay like $2,000 for his car repairs like he has to get it or he can’t get
His tags yeah so if you read bin bulletin be a patreon supporter or give him a coffee if you can because he got screwed so I I don’t know of I don’t know of this Meg do you have your do you have a car you know I’ve never asked you
Do I know you live like close to public transportation because because a motorcycle do you have your own private transportation you get around in there no not anymore us to drive you call it the tube I do take the tube sometimes but I don’t live Central enough to live near a
Tube so so you take some uh you take some buses and uh cabs and whatnot to get to close enough to can you fly can you fly I fly I fly everywhere I’m I take the buses and I take I walk I take buses trans uh train Uber various
Methods of getting around yeah excellent so so bin he’s he’s living high on the hog having his own personal vehicle of course he lives way out in in he has to right well now now we know when we show up at M’s house just on Uninvited unexpected one day hey and she can’t
Drive us places so well you know Jason have you ever done that thing where you look at your house from Google Earth yeah well on mine you can see me flipping the bird out the window really I’m serious really no now I’m dying to see it except I know
You won’t you won’t tell me how to find that neither should you right because it would be it would be not good but that’s fantastic that’s absolutely fantastic so if you go to like Google Street View and you go by your house you could see you in the
Window saluting the the Google yeah car do it me tell Google how you feel that’s fantastic that is absolutely fantastic so so the best beenin he has his own car in their he lives in the willow territory so it’s like everything’s far away yeah
Yeah that’s I I I knew that and uh he he really doesn’t have the choice he’s got a drive to get to like a real place it’s similar to me I live so far away from things that I have to drive to get to like any place that’s a place yeah um so
Uh yeah so the best been he they they hit him with new taxes out there or what no every year over there they have like um they make you they do like an inspection on your car yeah and then they and then they go and they go like
Oh you must get this fixed or basically you don’t get your tags you know like how we have that kind of thing but it’s but there it’s like ridiculous like they go they go like a full inspection on the car and then he was like stressing
Because it was like 800 or whatever then they went to do the work today and they’re like oh no it’s a lot more and so he’s not has having a bad day having a bad day so yeah yeah I don’t want I don’t want him to stop doing what he
Does but I think he’s I think he’s gonna be like screw this cause because because ever since the the uh strikes happened the money just stopped coming in because people are down to throw money at us and that kind of stuff him when there’s a lot of exciting news but when it gets
Quiet and it’s it’s like oh the bad batch episode people don’t do it so it’s like well but people are going to want him around when EP when the new beginning starts filming trust me I’ll tell one thing Jason this is something I’ve noticed in my analytics but also
Like patreon and channel memberships and all those other things a lot of fans stepped away after a sooka mhm like a lot of fans yeah that that that’s that that that happens every single time though I mean and that’s been my my thing is is everything builds
Into something and then there’s a bunch of hype and then there’s there’s the the drop off and then it recollects but the the difference is like when those drop offs happen when we have the films the amount of of of promotion that goes into the actual films makes that drop off not
As steep as it is when it’s this the the TV shows because the the TV shows are a fraction of what the films do like even in in the 2019 when Mandalorian was coming up obviously it wasn’t a hit yet it wasn’t out but it was just like a
Normal Star Wars production thing that was coming it would it would get me seriously 20% of what an episode n9ine story would get me and and and those numbers still feel very true I think that 20% is just that built-in culty fan base that you can’t lose no matter what
Like the people that were like hitting F5 on Clone War Stories 15 years ago or whatever it’s the same like it’s that’s like the built-in thing and uh but yeah but it’s not it’s not it’s not like sustainable it’s not like it’s not worth paying the the hosting on a website that
When the movies get up and they’re going like the amount of traffic that it that it goes but during those off times it’s not worth spending a $100 on hosting a month I have a c Point Jason yeah I don’t think fans will care about the ray
Movie as much as like the sequel Trilogy oh well no that’s not even that’s just a fact you’re bringing back Mark Hamill Harrison Ford and Carrie Fischer back for a new Star Wars movie that’s a sequel to return to the Jedi after all the Gen xas were babies about the
Prequels and then and every everybody’s like okay we’re all behind this new thing that that’s gonna happen so yeah nothing is ever gonna be as big as the phantom menace nothing is ever going to be as big as as episode seven that’s that’s unlikely to happen um the only
Thing that will make it go that way I think is if they take a 10-year break and then it’s episode 10 but that’s not when you get down to it the amount of money you make doing that isn’t worth the stopping isn’t worth stopping to do
That that you know what I mean you might as well just keep continually make stuff and then you would still make the same amount of money in the big picture the the difference though in the modern time is that people are not are not accepting
That the 80s are over the 80s retro I will buy something just because it’s Ghostbusters Just because it’s Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles all that stuff is over the the the the children of the Baby Boomers have aged out from going to the theater all the time the 40 year
Olds they don’t go so you can’t just be like Oh I’m gonna reboot Back to the Future a billion dollars like that that’s that’s done that is over and they uh so what’s gonna have to happen like what Ghostbusters is doing right now is they’re having to rebuild the franchise
Ghostbusters missed its windows to do Ghostbusters 3 when they could have made the serious money and then now they’re like they’re making 200ish million off of Ghostbusters movie but they’re G but they’re building it and they’re growing it hopefully into a strong franchise the ray the the the ray story or whatever um
Star Wars fans are inherently um I would say less than sophisticated when it comes to actual media because most of them they they don’t actually watch films they don’t actually they only consume Star Wars and then they go well that’s like that’s Entertainment it’s like no that’s not really how how how
This is going to work so they’re going to have to get into this idea that it like series are going to catch you and then they’re going to grow it the uh Ray movie in my opinion is probably a $500 million probably thing just by just by
Existing if it’s really good and it and it it gets traction it could make more I don’t believe any Star Wars movie is going to make a billion dollars anytime soon um good movies aren’t making a billion dollars right now the only thing that’s making a billion dollars are the
Exceptions rather than the rule like well this this a good point Jason and uh I want to follow up on two things here one uh astc Jeremy brings up a really good point and I was I was approached by a a young man in our church who uh knew
I was a Star Wars fan hey coach can you get me back on the basketball team no no no okay we were we were standing by The Doors people coming going whatever we’re standing there talking yeah and he says you know I tried to go out and watch some Star Wars stuff
On YouTube and Twitter said but it’s a it’s terrible I can’t I can’t go there it’s not I wanted to uh talk about Star Wars with people who like Star Wars and I thought it would be fun it’s not fun at all and this was like a 19yearold who
Said who went and checked it out and said nope I’m out like I’m not dealing with those people right so the culture war is boring it’s so boring I if I were a 19-year-old I’d be like nah I’m not that’s I’m out and so he just jumped
Right and so he’s not part of the engagement on Star Wars in Twitter or YouTube or anything like that because it’s just terrible Meg naughty I love you so much so um so that’s part of it the other that you mentioned is this 80s Nostalgia that is seems to be pervasive whether it’s
Karate Kid uh like they tried to do Indiana Jones uh uh Ghostbusters on and on and on at some point they’ve got to find new audiences they’ve need to bring in new um uh stories and the ship has sailed on a lot of the Nostalgia and
Something I brought up with Star Wars if you wanted to do a sequel Trilogy with Han Luke Leia chewy uh that should have been when L when George Lucas did the prequels when you still had Ghostbusters Three it’s that’s just like Ghostbusters 3 like Ghostbusters when the Ghostbusters were alive when they were
Younger yes and they missed it they both missed ghost 3 and the sequel Trilogy real window exactly you missed it and so now what you have to do is you have to rebuild so with both of these movies and I’m I’m going to try to walk myself back
To the story to the best spin bulletin going to try to walk back there these movies that are coming up the first movie The Mandalorian and grou movie that is leading into the new fans that have been brought to the franchise through that series we know that uh
Gro uh baby Yoda the little the baby uh those those uh that has become a big part of our culture the big part of the Star Wars fandom today uh are engaged with those characters and that storyline uh whether Mandalorian season 3 was a big drop off right we could have a big
Talk about that but if you’re going to engage the fans who have been brought into you’re going to move forward you got to move forward with the fans who are here not the fans from the 80s myself included right right so um I think the Mandalorian grou makes sense
The second half of that is Rey Ry uh the sequel Trilogy characters are the characters that the fans who are going to be fans 30 years from now when I’m in the dirt um you need to try to get something uh uh going with that right yeah um it’s it
So it makes sense to me that you would do uh again with the Phil Collins yeah I know idea last night to take Henry Rollins and AI his voice and have him singing Phil Collins songs and Phil Collins to AI Henry Rollins voice and have him sing the Black Flag
Songs right and we’ll call it Phil Rollins it’s an idea it’s an just an idea uh it says so so bman says readers of mine would know that Lucas film using working title code names for Star Wars production is common practice it’s tradition it’s history it goes back to
The original trilogy after the Star Wars we had code names when it came to uh Empire and when it came back to uh Jedi both both of those movies had working titles they had uh production titles that were different than the name of can
I be a nerd can I just be a for one second please like okay like the the the the like working title thing a lot of people will think that a working title means like we’re workshopping this title like John Fabro is like I think it’d be
Cool if the new Mandalorian movie was called Thunder Alley and then and and it’s like we’re working towards some like that’s not what it is though it’s these titles are to so that way when they go into to buy a pallet of brick not going Star Wars here Star Wars here
Charges premium prices like that’s why they don’t they don’t do that everybody look over here and then people are like wow they’re buying a lot of bricks for the Star Wars movie I think there’s a brick planet in Andor you know what I mean that kind of like that that’s why
That’s why they don’t do that kind of stuff it’s just to keep it low-key and to keep the prices like worked out on this particular story I find it just nerdy or just almost like a like a like a like a so what because we know the title of the
Movie we know it’s called the Mandalorian and grogo so who cares what they’re doing business as well it’s probably not the Mandalorian and grou it is the title when when we see the the title come up on at the theater um I I I’m sorry to
Inform you that it is the title I’m sorry Jason bookmark this when when when we go to the theater and we’re eating our pop I literally asked are you effing serious and I was told yes they are serious but when we when we go to the
Theater we sit and we have our popcorn and and and and the title comes up if if it says Mandalorian and grou I buy your popcorn okay if if it says it’s on the website it’s on sts.com I know I I just don’t believe that it’ll stay that I I
Hope you’re right right but Santa is going to be buying me a popcorn and a soda actually I want it to com I live in LA it ain’t gonna be no Amish prices where the Amish saking out to see the movies these are like real La prices so
You get that number one combo okay right whatever that number one combo is that’s the one you get right and just one last before I forget uh you could support Bond bulletin on coffee he lives he is a po dunk hick he is drinking milk directly from a cow’s te he needs your
He needs some car money to go to the store but he’s an hour away nellin he’s a little guy people don’t know that he’s a little guy he’s a little nelwin he’s a hobbit he’s a nelwin how some Will from The Willow Town actually acolyte down the street
From him kanu just just likes to for me to play this song to to annoy Jason and to remind everybody kanu Naughty list yeah K naughty list the seven seven Canadian he’s still on the co he’s still on the naughty list and Jason gets to listen to Megan Trainer I just impotent Megan what do what you w you want in on this bet if the title says Mandalorian and grou when you when you
Go to the the theater which side of the bed are you taking oh so wait wait so are you going to buy her so are you D are you going in on against two people now might otherwise you get two popcorns and two cokes I could I could get my wife’s
Popcorn and coke too depending mag do you want in on the BET or no um take it m okay I’m gonna say it never makes it they’re gonna happens I don’t think so you know Rogue Squadron my local movie theater still has on their website that it released last December how how was
It I know I I didn’t go I I I heard it was just uh Patty Jenkins roller skating backwards while disco music Star Wars the Star Wars mecho disco music played for 45 minutes and that was it I think there was that track from um you know the Nintendo Wii game where
Instead of I’m writing solo it’s I’m Han Solo oh oh no that was the um that was the Xbox tracking one right yeah yeah yeah yeah that was cringey yeah I remember that so you’re you’re taking my side of the BET Meg I’ll go with a three-way I should have known better I
Should have known better she’s my man that’s why she’s my hyp man I put that on me I I put that one completely on me I I took the wrong but everybody besin bulletin is a very small bald child and he needs your help you know this right we need we need
Sarah mlin singing a song about you know Touched by an Angel those those poor Welsh people that need our support the tiny the tiny bald men who live in Wales they need support people are so small and little and disgusting people need to look they deserve love too even though they’re
Small bald people in Wales we still need to get you know keep them out of the cold like they get cold just like you do he looks like an albino Starvin Marvin he need your help you’re cold they’re cold you should bring them in from the cold yeah
It’s he hasn’t even been able to watch the bad batch because of this you guys come on oh my gosh oh my God okay so sooner or later bman will come in to defend himself or or not I mean you know maybe it’s all true Trot um so it says some past examples
Include the Mandalorian season one having a code name working title of Huckleberry Ahsoka with storm Crow Obi-Wan was Joshua Tree uh the acolyte was Paradox uh just a just just a small handful uh you mentioned uh uh what was it in oh here we go didn’t um didn’t the acolyte have a
Different working title Paradox I believe didn’t they reveal one like a few weeks ago well so sometimes there’ll be like like a few companies some some will be like like uh it’ll just depend on like the department or whatever it is like episode seven had ad avco and foodles were what they were
Doing business as and like one was like more production based in terms of like elements like like brick and cement and stuff like that and one was more like you know actual production stuff uh actual like prop making and that kind of jazz so sometimes there’s even like
Sometimes I I’ll hear about like something like oh wellow they were doing business as that like what was it h something stockings was one like for for I think it was for acolyte uh was it it was like silver stockings or something Le stockings thank you besin yeah there we go
Yeah so I like the Trashy trashier this is this is it right so um and what did you you reminded me uh Empire had a different title what was Empire Strikes Back yeah empire did stuff as chapter 2 Productions and that was how they hid that it was Star Wars
To some degree agree and then they started a license licensing company called Black Falcon like if you have the old Empire Strikes Back stuff uh I I’ll get it in one second but yeah it’ll that will do it that’ll do it hold on one second yeah so so uh just to go further
It says uh bman talks about following Cosmic circus and two of the writers Lizzy Hill and Alex Perez are fantastic releasing Marvel Studios reports that uh says the the cosmic circus report does not have either of those writers attached instead it’s labeled as written by the Series Entertainment team I’ll
Try to get some confirmation and when he hears any more he’ll update and then update on uh at 9:30 p.m. in uh in London time or bpin time remember this remember this one remember this this this pillow this pillow cas yeah if you look on the very bottom here
On the corner of it right here this is one of the few items that from the licensing thing that has it you can’t see it but it’s a black falcon this is a 1979 released pillow case before way before Empire strike’s back came out you know and then like so like that that’s
One thing where it actually like um they actually like use that for more things and then but yeah yeah I’ve had this bow case my whole life almost I I I let my I let my my kids use it that they’re good I’m like who wants the
Empire pillow then they they both want the Empire pillow and I’m like all right you got better get in there and lay down if you want the Empire pillow tonight and the little dummies they they fall for it’s just it’s a piece of crap they’re they’re so dumb kids are idiots
But so if we if we keep reading in in best’s article uh he he he uh continues says uh as mentioned in the cosmic circus report Thunder Alley has been mentioned in the star Wars Universe before specifically the Legends novel and then there’s all kinds of speculation about what that could
Mean it could mean anything and but at that point it becomes just fan mathing and speculation fun discussion lots of fun but then we keep going this is the part that uh that my good friend Matt Risman has been waiting all show for he’s just he heard us tease it at the
Very beginning he’s been waiting in the in the wings to hear about the the title Untitled Skywalker film The Ray Skywalker film uh Matt is dying to know says uh this title’s rumored by many many months has not come from anybody reliable uh that it was it says my
Sources say this is not the case I’ve seen other outlets on social media share lucasfilm themselves have denied this title the title of episode 10 or um A New Beginning yeah that that’s where bestman pulled the punch he took off the episode 10 on their story he did them a nice thing I
Don’t know why he was so nice on that one because you EP I mean imagine if the episode 10 title came out in a mandal buried in a Mandalorian working production title like thing that’s that would be crazy but but episode 10 just the fact that episode 10 would be the biggest
Story of the of the of the quarter you you what I mean like you know but yeah it a a um so that’s not the title that’s not the title um and and that you see it on production weekly you see it on some GFR page or whatever right yeah it’s not
The title we got I don’t care what Matt rman says it’s still not the title no not it uh so so don’t don’t buy into that we’ll find out it says the Mandalorian grou set to be directed by John Fabro we get back into that um and
Then thank you for reading the article suppor him on Kofi suppor him on patreon and you should because short bald uh people living in Wales need ouro Starvin Marvins needs your help they do they do he it’s cold and when it’s cold best man’s cold you got to let him in so uh
There you go there you go uh so so that that was that story there’s another story that kind of uh is making some waves uh and Meg did you did you cover the Mana stanberg quote Oh yes I did let me tell you all about it it was ridiculous the way she
Went against Disney Star Wars I don’t think me Meg I don’t think you covered this did you of course I did I went to Hogwarts and then I was kicked out in my final year and I have to take the bus no oh oh I left my camera on sorry
Wait hold on hold on yeah yes of course it’s me my name is Megan no it’s not she’s she’s she’s uh she’s walked away we we’ll wait she’ll come back says uh in this interview uh they were interviewing Amanda uh uh why isn’t your name just
Amanda why has got to be a dumb name like that that that’s that’s what people should be mad about Amanda that’s not a real name yeah uh Meg’s away from the keyboard she’s she’s busy uh writing the the the heart string uh heart pull heart string pulling song to support besin
Because he’s cold in the outside and for just $5 doll a month you can provide bin with the support he needs to get in from the cold you too can help bin you know what he looks like he looks like you know when ET turned all white
When he was in the Stream imagine George castanas George castanza if he was all white like ET and when he’s dead you know that’s what that’s what it looks like now he needs our help he needs he needs a coffee yeah he does he does
For McDonald at least for a m out there they don’t say I’m going to McDonald’s hey Santa want some McDonald’s hey Santa what do you want from McDonald’s they go I’m going to get a McDonald’s a McDonald’s oh what what are you doing what are you doing wasting wasting words oh that’s
Good uh so they they interviewed a mana and she was talking about the the is this has got a lot to do with fion and all kinds of nonsense that I don’t care about but in the interview they also talked about Star Wars yeah and she
Can’t talk about the plot of the acolyte because the ndas are restrictive and she says they’re hacking into my phone right now it’s it’s a joke right and then she what she can say is it takes place in h well it’s supposed to and then yeah if
They could hack in their phones they would they would uh there wouldn’t be so many sources would there best I’m taking all this abuse for free abuse me all you want well you pay me word shut up castanza trying to get support right we’re trying to get
Support for the best get people thinking you know In the Arms of an Angel and and how you’re you’re outside shivering cold and looking helpless and as a tiny little bald child right yeah are you an angel I heard the deep space pods talk about them the most beautiful creatures and
Then and then that’s comes out he’s like we give themy get some people have some sympathy for besin and5 just for $5 a month you can support besin and bring him in from the cold that’s all we’re trying to do yes I did cover this okay good thanks uh so was it
Was it true that you got kicked out of Hogwarts in your final year or was that you just joking around I did get kicked out of hogs see I told you guys I wasn’t making it up it was all jollin’s fault oh I I I
Just saw that that M texted us be right back you guys I didn’t see that after I turned off my mic and and and spoke for you for five minutes sorry M I missed it I missed it uh uh so Meg uh what’s your take on this story I think it’s stanely WS
I think the person was great well put well put B well put I no but seriously um I want to know more about the acolyte a part of me is really excited to see what they’re going to do but I don’t have expectations people say well
What if it’s bad I don’t expect it to be good I want it to be good MH yeah yeah uh I I want it to be good to I desperately want it to be good because for several reasons one it’s good for the fandom it’s good for all of us when
We get good Star Wars and um I hope everybody likes it not just a small portion of the of the fandom and I hope that uh it it gets us excited about a season to a future Seasons spin-offs and the high Republic era as a whole I I truly want it to
Succeed there’s a couple things in her quote that I find very interesting and there’s one part of the quote that is getting some uh eyebrows raised shall we say uh her quote in the context of the Star Wars Universe it’s a time of great peace theoretically now if you’ve been
Reading the high Republic novels you know that during those novels it is not a time of great peace in fact there’s not good at all all Jedi are being killed Jedi the there’s uh the Galaxy as a whole is divided there are bad things going on and uh we’re working through that
So the this show the acolyte we see one of the high Republic characters in the novels and the comics grown up it’s it’s after the fact so this is after the high Republic novels and a time of great peace so I’m looking forward to see how
This uh the story in the novels comes to its end and I suspect part of why we’ve not heard much about this is because that publishing effort you don’t want to ruin too much of it ahead of time um but we do have a Rel release date coming
Up potential release date coming up this summer so between now and then hopefully we learn uh uh what we need to learn of this huic publishing effort so that we don’t have too much of it spoiled in that it ties in to those novels because we’re picking up one of
The one of the key characters from those novels but so there’s that and then it says it’s also time of an institution a time which conceptions around the force are very strict meaning the Jedi Order has a a very strict view of the force and I think we’re trying to explore
Within our show is when an institution has a singular conception of how power can be used we try to provide a lot of different perspectives and answers to that question I said that’s not new to Star Wars if you go read a lot of the EU
Novels one of the major things uh that that play into uh the Darth Bane Trilogy for example is that the Jedi had a very strict view of using the force and the Sith had a very different um view of it and that they wanted to uh free Force
Users from the restrictions of the for of the Jedi Order um yeah vesto is supposed to be in in the I’ve got a very hot take yeah I don’t think the high Republic is written like Star Wars no matter what authors of the expanded universe they all seem to have
Understood what Star Wars should be and when you read the high Republic I see why why it’s appealing to fans who maybe are Marvel fans or are new to the franchise because to me it doesn’t feel like the same universe The Only Exception is Young Jedi adventures and
Possibly the acolytes the on screen stuff seems fine but I I just can’t get into the books and I’ve tried time and time again I was reading the recent um the one about the zoo escap from Escape from valow yeah and I really wanted to
Like it and 20 pages and I’m like no I’m done with this yeah yeah escape from valow is uh becoming a challenge for me too I’m about halfway through it and um thinking it’s still is not the uh the best of the high Republic novels the the publishing efforts never
Really hit the mark I’m just I mean like I we’ve been reading the books for 30 years now and that’s just been the case since I was a little kid people like yeah it’s like like the Lando and the Han Solo books are good but they’re not really Star
Wars you know they never hit the it’s it’s a different medium so it’s always it’s always off yeah yeah I I completely agree with you and every person has their own sort of um way they consume it and I’ll give you an equally hot take Meg is every High Republic novel that
I’ve read is more Star Wars than the Darth pleus novel Darth pleus novel is terrible and it misrepresents Star Wars probably more than any other EU book that I’ve ever read I I hate I think it’s the best of the EU books I’ve read it three times
But right there just shows you how why this is impossible there there is never going to be uniformity in what something so vast as Star Wars is about about you know oh you hit the mark it’s never going to be that way for and a collective and and unless Star Wars gets
Real small and the Fang G gets real small and homogeneous which is not going to happen like that and I’ll say the Fate answer and a serious answer my joke answer is are you sure you read it in English and my serious answer is that I can’t see objectively how someone could
Say that book is less Star Wars than the high Republic it’s because it literally gives you the backstory to Palpatine’s life his master his master’s Master except they’re all terrible characters that that don’t truly like it is more of a DC Superhero novel than it
Is a Star Wars novel and the the the the um the powers that they use in there are are not what uh they’re terrible it’s terrible and I I I I’ll contrast that with the fate of the Jedi novels are some of the best Star Wars I’ve ever
Read uh and I’ve read a lot of I probably read oh somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 which is not like extensive somewhere in a neighborhood of 30 EU novels right Legends novels and by far pleus is of the Legends novels the worst one I’ve ever read and for me and
It’s it so this is the point is to Define Star Wars is different from person to person to person and it’s really hard to say that one person’s view of it is the uh quintessential view of it right so we we all consume it differently but uh one thing I want to
Get back to this story because there’s another part here it says how do we get to geod that’s what we want to know no best Star Wars character Gio so dumb is not the dumbest thing that they ever did though it’s it’s up there they’ve done
Some dumb things and that is up there that one that one is a tongue and cheek book like the entire book is is like uh b d at like every page right it’s it’s it’s there’s a lot of hilarity in it but back to here this concept of the Jedi
Having a singular View and then others having a different view carries on back into into Legends materials it carries on into um probably gonna carry on into the Mangold movie most likely so this and of itself should not be uh anything that people get worked up about what
People get worked up about comes later says uh a singular conception of how power can be used we try to provide a lot of different perspectives and answers to that question sort of like uh the the um Nile or the Um Can can we get the can we get best tax incentives articles um in in this one so that way I could get him to come on and fill in for me because he’ll I could get him to do it I think but you got to cover can I sprinkle can I
Sprinkle some salt on this conversation yeah just a huge grievance I have so I ordered the book huic character Encyclopedia yeah and if you if you want if you watched every comedy special on Netflix get that book every page is a laugh because I don’t know why Disney cannot create a single interesting
Jedi I disagree with you about their personality even the aliens like they just made the weirdest conc options and variations on existing species disagree like there are a couple of Jedi in the high Republic uh era that are Belle zedar for example his character to me is is
Tremendously fascinating and I’m I’m am hooked I’m on the hook with him I want to know how his story resolves I want to know what happens next um when when his life was in danger I was on the edge of my seat like these are there are some
Characters in there that are are huge that are fantastic others sure the throwaway characters um I want to get to this this comment right here says the idea is to honor the ethos of Star Wars and the IDE ideas around the force what Amanda has gotten herself
Into a little hot water on is this next part and also challenged them hopefully harmoniously so what no that’s a George Lucas of Star Wars you guys what is going on here right we we we live in a baby world this whole this whole fandom is baby based
We’re all stupid I think I feel stupid or even acknowledg ing people being mad about that it’s so stupid it’s such a oh I’m so oh D denber did it again like it’s such a weird thing it’s crazy it is crazy I’ve got to disagree with you I’ve got to disagree
With you Jason it’s baby this is baby this is a baby this is baby brains Jason told me the other day that I lean into the fandom Menace quite a bit so I’m going to keep that keep up that reputation with this comment could you imagine if Disney Star Wars was less
Antagonistic and they were like we’re making a show 150 years before episode 1 we want to respect the ideas of that era and so what we’re going to do is show maybe the higher public in the context that feeds seamlessly into the way that Yoda lived through that time period and
Has the conceptions of the Jedi Order he does by the time of episode one every quote from these people who worked on the show is always you know we want to challenge George Lucas we want to show you that Star Wars isn’t all about um men like that that one actress that’s St
Celebration she didn’t even talk about the project it was all about her personal views that’s all I’m saying that’s my view on it yeah the the uh the thing is though is you can’t so George Lucas’s the respecting George Lucas’s thing is George Lucas going I I didn’t
Write that stuff my story doesn’t take place before then so it’s it’s everything’s fine you cannot go and then have a story without there being friction you can’t do star war Wars without the wars so by by that very like uh metric you we’ve set up a thing where
Anything is disrespectful to George L George it’s it’s it’s this this is nothing this is like baby brain stuff it’s not real it’s not it’s like oh it’s going to challenge the idea of the force that that’s nothing that doesn’t mean anything it’s nothing but but you
Can make it mean it’s a bad thing that you want it to but but really that is Mushmouth words that just it’s filler she didn’t say any she didn’t say anything though she said nothing it was an actor mouth verbal diarrhea thing and goes uh oh what does that mean it’s
Supposed to make you go intrigued like what stuff from the force I didn’t know about and instead they’re like no they’re gonna change what George Lucas said about and it’s not any story that doesn’t challenge some notion of the narrative that the viewer has is inherently a boring dumb
Thing like uh oh it’s a story about a guy who W woke up and goes to bed no it has to be like oh he thought he was gonna wake up and go to bed but then and so like like I said this is this is the
Fand menus people looking for things to get their panties you know in a murf right there in the middle of it that that’s what they’re have you considered that some fans care about the force it’s not real it’s the made up magic powers like that’s where that’s where it
Just I’m sorry but that’s that’s just where it like I lose my my mind on it because um it’s not a real religion it’s telekinesis it’s superpowers this is this is like I said this is baby brain that’s why I just I can’t engage with with this with this
One because she didn’t say anything you know what you’re Tennessee nothing’s going to change there there’s no there’s no new Force these people don’t have the they’re creatively bankrupt they’re working for Disney they don’t they don’t there’s not gonna be anything that’s going to challenge anything about anything but what I think it what I what I think she
Might be getting at is that like I was a Jedi and I thought oh these people are are are jerks and then I turned against because she’s an acolyte she doesn’t become a Jedi right so she’s going to hear the doctrine and she’s going to
Reject it like if you want to have like like like the real if there’s anything real to that quote which I don’t believe there is I think it was just like uh oh there’s stuff you guys haven’t seen yet and and and but it’s being presented or
Or taken as if it’s this like Disney Star Wars which is like quote for uh oh Kathleen Kennedy and her stupid stuff like it but it once again it’s all it’s all nothing um conservatives literally take over Star Wars and it’s going to be as creatively bankrupt as the stuff that
We’re getting through this through through the the machine Jason I know that you have to go read stories to kiddos I do in like 15 minutes yeah yeah my my I’m reading I’m reading some Dr Seuss to to Penny’s class right now speaking of baby brains dumb K I know
You gota run and I’m gonna I’m going to uh recontextualize a little bit of what you have just said and uh try to try to meet in the middle between you and Meg uh while you’re gone so thank you bye Meg sorry for yelling at you me did it
Seem like I was yelling at you I was just trying to be like performative I know I know love you guys bye thanks so much Jason bye bye um no I was going to say um you’re right Meg in the context that uh some of the folks on these
Projects are coming in and speaking from uh a perspective of a non-star Wars fan and that the the words that they say when received by a Star Wars fan can be offensive and it’s because we love and care for this franchise so much more than some of the people working on these
Projects and I would say that’s true of the vast majority of the people working on these projects going back to the prequels I just saw it come up again uh from an old Saturday Night Live skit uh where uh oh shoot what’s her name uh padne um Natalie Portman yeah
Natalie Portman Natalie Portman was on a Saturday Night Live and they did a skit where they have another one of the Saturday Night Live uh comedians in the audience who says uh something to the effect of of uh ask her some question some really really remote
Um uh yeah so besin can come on bin you have the link you can come on when you want uh it would be more than welcome um anyway they they portray some Star Wars nerd who comes on and asks some question about some obscure story point and why
Would pad May interact with somebody this way blah blah blah and she’s like I don’t know what the heck you guys are talking about right she doesn’t care she she’s portraying Padme uh the the role in the movie that she has she is not consuming uh volumes of Star Wars uh
Books materials um Legends Canon none of it she’s she’s portraying a role that she has right so to expect that these actors would have the same level of uh interest that maybe you or I or a lot of other fans do is a little nonsensical however that being said
Wouldn’t hurt for L Lucas film to say uh you’re going to run into some rabid fans who know all kinds of nonsense about Star Wars that you could never begin to know uh don’t say these things or say these things or just sidestep questions don’t talk about it whatsoever because
You’re going to say something that’s going to offend someone uh because you’re not going to understand the full context of what you’re saying and I think that’s basically what’s happened here and uh to be fair George Lucas set up a lot of these issues himself when when you have the Jedi taking children
At a young age away from their families and telling them you should love your mom and dad right that’s the short of it he didn’t say it in those words but that’s that’s the take right is you took these kids away from their families and said
You shouldn’t love your mom and dad you shouldn’t love your sister your brother um because that leads to entrapment and the dark side and so on right so George opened that door he never ex he never addressed it in those terms but it’s laying right there on on a
Platter and it’s been there since the beginning and it’s something that comes up in debates among Star Wars fans from time to time and what I read into this thing that amandel is talking about is addressing some of that right I’m back this is not Dr Seuss time Jason got
Push oh text me said can half hour and I was like yep she kicked you out no yeah first of all since since uh Mike yany did this Mike and since Jason is back we can play this song for Jason here you go oh no yeah yeah Mike oh I hit the wrong Button Mike naughty list that’s you yeah yeah thank you for Super Chat mik that’s good stuff dude that’s good stuff and I need to go back and catch this other one from konu because I think a lot of people agree with Meg Meg spitting facts today and uh who else
Mike Jedi Mike Meg is so fandom and I agree this is why I think Meg is so important to our to our fandom as a whole is uh she is the fan and uh Meg you are a voice that that is able to reach a a broad spectrum of the fandom
And when people get to know who you are um you’re you’re not the stereotypical straight white man living in his mom’s basement that a lot of people think what’s wrong with that what’s wrong with that manless Denberg nothing nothing’s wrong with that got yourself in hot water Meg is Meg is not
That and um that’s an important voice to have in being the age that you are you uh represent present such a large group of fans and are able to talk about Star Wars in a way that brings I think more people together and uh I think you are
Absolute gold for the the fandom and when we disagree on things and you guys have heard it today Meg and I disagree vehemently on some of the points around the the high Republic or on the Legends novels right we have very very different takes uh but but we both neither of us think
Less of the other because of our disagreement or our our fandom right we just we admire each other for who we are and we’re friends because of it so um and that’s the best way to be to have discussion to interact with others I think my problem with a lot of
The fandom today is especially on social media you see a lot of people who they absolutely love everything that Disney puts out and they claim they’re positive they claim to be inclusive or whatever but the minute you don’t like something you’re kicked out that group and you’re labeled and you’re found a
Menace and suddenly it’s like aren’t we all meant to express what we like about Star Wars yeah I that’s very well put there there is a perspective of people who love the Disney Star Wars era who are hyp sensitive to criticism it’s more baby Brains it’s it is I mean
There’s there’s baby the the haters and the lovers they they got the baby brains they’re they’re like it’s like why are no one no one would really come up with these arguments positive or negative in in an organic real way to each other like all three of us together if we were
Just like we just met for coffee every week and we weren’t a part of the internet and we just like what’s going on nobody like oh my God you guys hear what a manless Stenberg said nobody would be mad about it it it’s always somebody going like I’m I’m justified in
My feelings it’s like it’s like all it’s all based off of like this feeling justified in the feelings and then it’s like it’s weird let let me let me finish my my point here because there’s there is a hypers sensitivity among stum fandom to any criticism from the the
Disney era there’s another group of fans that H that I have had to deal with who tell me that I’m a fake fan what right not not from the perspective of like uh Darth Melvin or whatever right nothing like that because he’s he’s he’s doing a great job of what he does but
I’ve actually had long drawn out arguments uh that went days and weeks where people are accusing me of of not knowing Star Wars because I like a certain part of Star Wars that they don’t so you can equally be attacked and assaulted as a Star Wars fan for liking
Something somebody else doesn’t right you can be attacked by not like by not liking something they do you can also be attacked by liking something they don’t and I’ve I’ve heard it said over and over over again that you cannot be a fan of Star Wars if you like fill in the blank
Girls that’s not true because Meg and I both like girls and we both uh like Star Wars so there okay I’ll think about it we’ll think about it ah so uh that’s that’s um and what we tend to do is we kind to get trapped in our own view of the feedback
We get so if Meg gets a lot of feedback from the hyp sensitive fans who like this portion of star the Disney era of Star Wars then the perspective is these people are terrible well let me let me let me ask you the unfair question H how do how do we or the
Corporation steer the discourse into a place where the con the criticism is actually uh oh Disney trying to take me down Disney’s trying to take me down but no how how do we move it into a place where it is actually constructed because what the fandm Menace does is not
Constructive it does not make Star Wars better in fact it gives bad Star Wars a shield we’re not talking about about where the last I is a weak film at times we’re talking about something that made somebody mad cuz they like space Vegas or hate or whatever it’s some some inan
Stuff and then the same thing with the people that say like oh like oh God guys no the bad batch is the most quality Star Wars ever and you’re like well actually like nothing is perfect and here’s where the bad badge could have been and they’re like they won’t hear it
And so it ends up being in a place where uh I don’t think any valid criticism or discussion is actually heard it’s only the stupidest and loudest of of two polarized extremes that are that that we that we look at and I I don’t know how
We get out of that because it it doesn’t help it doesn’t like like like even on the prequels we got 10 years out of the prequels and at first this was the worst movie ever made well was it the worst movie ever made no it was not that’s a
Ridiculous not so so the so much of the conversation was was fluff yeah and filler and it’s like so that like that’s where like your friend at church who the 19-year-old who like wants to like engage with Star Wars it’s like there has to be like a mixture I I don’t think
We should pay any attention to anyone who likes everything I don’t think we should pay attention to anyone who hates everything I think you should pay attention to people that are sincerely honest with this worked for me this did it Mando 3 was all right at times at
Times I didn’t actually like it but anybody who says everything is all good or all bad it just that’s that’s that’s saying nothing at all in the end and Jason as real bin says you’ve earned This yeah Ben Ben same thing Jason earned it you earned it too a a$ five doll Super Chat thank you for the Super Chat my friend are you doing yeah and for those that don’t know Jason hates that song uh it is a bad is objectively bad no it’s not I love love
It I play it just for enjoyment sometimes and I I’ll skip I’ve got the uh I’ve got the album Megan trainer’s Christmas album and sometimes I’ll skip ahead to that just to listen to that song it’s a great song and oh weekly joke weekly joke I get to make uh who’s
Megan Trainer Meg’s girlfriend is that what they call her Megan Trainer yeah yeah yeah see what I I did there yeah I don’t get it is it like the rancor I’m the rancor trainer that was a keeper M A Rancor keeper fake fan um you brought up something that I
Want to transition to and I think this is a perfect time to do it in Meg’s video today talked about the bad batch and how it is uh kind of reinforcing and going uh expanding our knowledge of the one of the worst Star Wars movies ever
Made attack of the Clones no see see what I did there see see what I did get him Meg get him I I know she’s she will she already has but she she will you said I made a video about the worst Star Wars film but I’ve not spoken
About the rise of Skywalker in years I know I that’s what I was gonna say I I knew it I knew it um wa again big credit to Megan because uh a while back she asked me if I would contribute to uh researching and and providing some
Content around attack of the Clones and specifically uh I did a deep dive into uh looking at at uh Count Dooku and some of the content we get in some of the outtakes from Attack of the Clone as well as the Clone Wars animated series reinforces that character and you
Find out in and in the novels as well there’s a lot of content that adds to Count Dooku’s story that makes him a much much better character than what we just get in the movie uh his character in my opinion is really done wrong in
The movie oh he deserved a lot more um and what we’re getting from the bad batch right now is a a more expansion upon what was going on at Camino and more specifically we were talking about a little bit in Meg’s Discord Omega was uh there
During uh that time period right she was there when Boba Fett was there she was there when Jango and when Obi-Wan had their little uh scuff right Omega was there question did Omega and and Boba Fett know each other were they aware that the other existed we don’t know we can spe they
Should have made a series about it almost like we should find out yeah because maybe they did know maybe Boba Fett just saw himself as Superior because he was D jango’s son right I get to live with Dad I’m his son I want his son I didn’t want new daughter and I’m
Not one of these clones right I’m I’m a a legitimate son of of D Jango even though he was made by a cloning process right yeah um so Omega being his sister he may have known that she was there and nay was Raising her but sees her as a
Lesser because of it we don’t know it’s fun to speculate did did Boba Fett know Omega or not or would he have even cared yeah you could you could take that I mean you could also take it before his father’s demise he doesn’t care and then after he does
You know what I mean like oh wow I I don’t have anything I have no family I’m I’m a madeup person like a character I’m a clone and then this person is the closest thing that I will have to a biological sister I mean there there is
Obviously a story there if they want want to make it and then we went into it last week about how Omega is essentially a container um doesn’t mean that she is getting force abilities put into her but if that if it does go that way because she does have midi choran that are
Notable if it did go that way there’s a good story there too with Boba Fett figuring out he has a sister or finding a sister and she’s a Jedi because we are we for years worked under the assumption he hated the Jedi because they cut his
Dad’s head off and so like that right there fundamentally makes that makes friction right there and now once again the people be like this doesn’t respect George’s Vision it’s because it but but once again it’s like that that that kind of I mean Ahsoka doesn’t George doesn’t respect George’s own Vision with Ahsoka
He you know what I mean he’s like oh and now now she there was an apprentice the whole time because it’s made up it’s not real yeah he says Anakin has an apprentice and and then uh Dave flon says no he doesn’t because he does now work it out yeah yeah yeah
Um uh yachty has spoken the bad batch is greater than Star Wars liveaction I have a question yeah go ahead I think Omega was kept hidden from the other clones and spend most of her life you know when say yeah and I figure that maybe the only other person who knew
About her was Shakti who was on Camino quite a lot of the time well and and llamas Su right to some degree yeah I mean outside of the kaminoans so yeah prob Shakti and I wonder if if I mean we don’t know if Omega has the force we know she’s got
DNA that allows for like high count transfer with no degradation but if she were to have the force and have a high am count do you think maybe it was codas or Duku that they used as to me it it would seem that it that
She is a sort of a a secret project right she’s like not one necessarily on the books or whatever and you have the Dooku and the Sith interference with that kind of stuff so they they can go two ways on it they could make it where she is nal’s pet project and obviously
It ends up just becoming what it becomes through that way or it could be like yeah um Palpatine had alternate plans for what he what he wanted there now the fact that if they’re testing everybody and then that they wanted later on I think kind of does play into that being
The story into that it like there was a little bit of let’s do this and who nudged her her to like start doing that why did she start why why did she start doing that when the initial order is make Jango fets make Jango fet copies why do something I wonder something I
Wonder and it’s something that I think they’re kind of touching around the edges of is um DNA manipulation I don’t necessarily think that they had to bring in additional DNA Meg I think that um I’m my messing with the the chromosomes involved in the DNA sequence they’re trying to find out
Which one turns on metori and receptivity all right is there a is there a genome is there something in the the DNA sequence that if you flip it it opens up more medoran receptivity um and so you don’t have to necessarily bring in something else because we also
Know that she’s supposed to be an unaltered clone of D Jango fat well she’s she’s been one thing’s been altered anyway her her gender right so um we know that they flipped something there that turned um male to female which is you know relatively easy when
You talk about chromosomes we we can we can identify that and relatively easy right xxxy whatever so they could they could do that but is there something else and as they’re doing these experiments regarding medoran receptivity mcount receptivity and being able to transfer mcount from one blood sample to
Another have we found that have we found that marker and have we been able to then change the um uh uh uh uh sequence or being able to change the method by which we do the transfer which is why they keep TR uh testing the same samples over and
Over is okay we’ve changed something in our processing of the medoran or of the the sample the donor sample and now let’s try putting the this version in and that version in and let’s change this marker and that marker until you can find that combination and that’s how
Uh genetic sequencing that’s how uh science regarding um chromosome or DNA um um processing works right so we’re even seeing that now in in modern day with as they’re dealing with cancer right there’s some cancer that they can now they they could create a vaccine for you
Can get a vaccine and others they take some of your own blood and then they create they they pick up on genetic markers in that they they give them a little juice and they put that back in you and then your own blood fights back against the cancer right these are
Things that are happening in real science in the real world and we know Star Wars doesn’t work the same that was even in an interview uh this past week or two right Star Wars is a different Universe things don’t work like science here it’s fine but it’s I
Think yeah Mumbo Jimbo another $ Five Doll Super Chat Jason Meg uh let’s face it uh Santa Jason omeg let’s face it Omega Will Survive uh the bad batch then we won’t know what happens to her until a comic comes out in 2044 he’s not wrong he’s not wrong
Yeah I I I do feel though like all of the C all of the characters that they create that filon makes and stuff like that I do think that it that it they do that they are likely all working in towards the characters that are going to be Luke Skywalker’s
Homies Sabine you guys would have said the same thing about Sabine a know Jedi she’s not going to get the force blah blah blah and then now there she is and then Ahsoka and then Ezra Bridger and then this like I do think I would not
Surprise me just based off of the past trends of of what the protagonist become if we end up with her being having the ability the fact that she has any micans to even talk about is a big deal 100% I agree with Jason like the way that they
Structure shows is much more simple than us die hards who do all the research read the books would assume and I think even just suggesting Omega has some connection to have you know a highend count I think that’s them setting us up for the fact she will use the force and
They’ve even kind of told us in the interviews that there’s a connection to a sge Ventress and it could very well be that Omega goes off with the sge Becomes Her apprentice and then that’s the next show and it sounds crazy to us now because we’re like really deep into the whole
DNA stuff and D Jango fets but I wouldn’t be surprised if the whole idea from the start was we’re gonna make a female Boba Fett who has the force right I agree with Obsession here by the way we have no evidence that Omega has mcount whatsoever there’s nothing they’ve
Implied it they’ve implied it I disagree with that she she she she did not lose any she had so so here’s the whole thing every see people people make it seem like if you have one One Mini choran you’re a Jedi no that’s not what it means everybody has it
Everybody everybody’s got yeah and hers and hers don’t but but hers is is significant enough that it doesn’t lose anything when they when they do the science yeah no her blood as he says her her her blood can bond with mcount cells she doesn’t necessarily have and they
Weren’t putting mount into the the the Clones they’re putting it into their blood roll it back hold on are they putting midi chlorians into her yes no not into her no okay then how is she not losing that she doesn’t have they put in the blood you can see them dripping
Blood in the blood like the blood sample comes in and they drip some in you can see it it’s in the Shelf yeah yeah but what we’re saying is that yeah she’s a vessel they want to use her as like the template for clones for Palpatine’s Essence it
Doesn’t mean she has the force but I think that’s the direction I think the big revelation will be Nal kept Omega hidden because not only does she have the potential to have a highend count she herself is going to be revealed to have an M count four episodes in like
There’s so much more of the season to go do m m do you think that they got the that they were maybe using Ventress as the donor for the original like where do you just get the midi glorian that’s what I’m saying that’s is that what you’re implying okay
Yeah that’s I think that makes that seems like a possibility I think I think they’re they’re finding which which marker you turn on and you can then receive more M uh more medoran receptivity I think that’s it Star War’s obsession is like no you you you could
Be completely right based off of what this is but who is more likely based off of this tangential information that we have right now to be a Jedi Sabine Ren at the end of Star Wars Rebels or Omega at the end of this series which one became a Jedi the way
Unlikely one I’m sorry this this kicked the door open this kicked the door open even if it’s not what they intend today Omega is gonna be a Jedi based off of this the the the way it was told the confusion surrounding it the fact that it’s on everybody’s mind because of that
And it’s that’s where it’s going to go that that’s my that is my no my my prediction I’m not saying it’s G be the end of the series that’s where it goes though that that there is no way somebody doesn’t pick up the pen and go
Well I can do it and then there’s gonna be nobody to stop them and then they’re gonna do it watch I agree with Jason I actually agree with Jason it’s going to be one of those things where the the force theme starts playing Omega closes her eyes she’s about to die and then
Just force pushes Hemlock it might be the very last thing that happens yeah it might be the very last moment of the of the season the last thing that she does I I don’t think so I don’t think so I I I I really don’t think so and where’s
The fun in that let me well because we can we can we can uh speculate about this this is the fun of being a fan yeah just I’m saying it’s not fun it is for me so it’s fun that that they made a clone without a wiener like that’s all
That it ends up being at the end a clone without a wiener but but by by going and then and what they what they’ve done they’ve now opened up the door something that that was thought to be impossible a path way some consider to be unnatural
But she doesn’t have to have the force in order to still like show that her blood they found they found the marker you can turn on to increase uh this is all boring receptivity I’ve got to say though Jason is science Jason’s got a really point
About the way that they make the show like if you’re considering this this show that comes after the Clone Wars and it’s a continuation it’s an animated series that most fans are going to watch Once and move on in their minds Jason’s right they probably if if they want to
Do something with Omega rather than kill her off they’ve probably thought of something akin to her becoming a Jedi for the way the story starts and ends and just as people made a defense for Sabine saying there were signs in Rebels I can find you more signs in the first
Two seasons of the bad batch where Omega I felt like was about to use the force so I wouldn’t be surprised from that standpoint if that was always the trajectory well this is this is the fun we can find out um uh thank you yachty uh thank you for being here through the
Show kg just made it she’s real late um Jason you you okay to hang out a little bit more your half hour passed yeah I’m good a few more minutes there’s one more story that uh I haven’t touched on yet and it’s the respawn one right so rumor
Came out a little bit ago that respawn was going to make a Mandalorian video game and everybody got real excited about it everybody covered it it was great I saw Meg do a story on it I saw uh uh all the all the content creators
Did bin wrote a story about it even it was great then we find out not just kidding they’re not doing that what’s going on right is a they’re they’re making it they’re not making it um uh what was the other one act not Activision um maybe activis this this was a bounty hunting
Video game that was that was supposed to come out we didn’t know if it was Den or another Bounty Hunter now I I think it was Jason schwar I can’t remember remember who somebody came out and then said no uh it was a you were a new
Bounty Hunter and it was you were going to go do bounties and it was going have all these bounty hunting mechanics and the Amed best thing is from another video game nothing to do with Star Wars he just hashtags everything what he’s known for right is
So so that one right there is not connected to it at all it’s not that was a nothing story completely for Star Wars for Amed congratulations but but for for yeah for the the game this is just another another time of EA pulling the plug on something and
Going oh well we don’t care about Star Wars we don’t care about Star Wars fans or they expect I don’t like it I honestly hate when people get like that they’re disrespecting the fans like no you’re being crazy most of the time it’s not about you EA literally does not give
Two poops about anything having to do with Star Wars all they are is they’re about the bottom line they don’t care about your expectations they don’t care what they do they don’t care if they hurt the brand they paid for it they don’t care and they’re they’re a Bad
Company who in the end does not follow through on anything I I personally am not covering anything from EA Star Wars anymore I don’t care until it’s coming out when when we’re at the I’ll probably I’ll cover the Jedi 3 you know fall in order three that will happen I would
Think but when it’s some new thing from EA what a wait don’t give it any don’t give it any any air any Oxygen it’s not worth it it’s a waste of all of our times they just continue to like do this and they also they don’t care about
Their employees either so when you get down to it they don’t care about anything we shouldn’t care about them I I I mean the only people who care about it are are sports people at the end of the day they’re a sports company that that did a frolicked with their money in
The in the nerd sphere I’m gonna make a hold on but before I do that Meg what’s your take on the the whole EA thing it’s so disappointing it’s just another another and a series of events I can understand Jason’s frustration not wanting to cover
It yeah I I I I equate it a little bit to Hasbro uh Hasbro isn’t known for announcing a thing and then the thing not happening the thing about Hasbro is it’s repaint and repack repaint and repack and then coming up with um uh bad ideas that they try to get
People to buy right but you know what Hasbro is a much bigger company than just Star Wars vintage collection and Star Wars Black Series figures there’s still a toy coming right there’s still a toy not only that but games right they board games uh video games they they’ve
Got a huge platform huge platform that is far beyond uh Star Wars far far beyond Star Wars is just a a fragment of their business and to look at a failed oh see you see you Jason look at a failed haslab project and think that Hasbro is going to go out
Of business because they’re mismanaging um the brand is a little um ignorant of what Hasbro is as a whole should Hasbro lose their license to exclusivity regarding um Star Wars toys I think there’s where the discussion could be held and where some fans have have fallen much like EA and
The frustration with them mismanaging the brand of Star Wars EA is bigger than Star Wars uh they’ve got a lot other things going on other than Star Wars so does Hasbro are either of them managing that brand well depends on who you ask so but I think that’s a fair
Argument to to be had and I keep watching I know bay max is in the chat I know he’s passionate about the topic so uh expect to hear from from Baymax uh we did not get your answer uh regarding rag tag uh Baymax but I wanted to catch that
Before Jason left and Meg I’d like to go back to the bad bats just a little bit if you don’t mind are you still you good yeah I’m good yeah great um uh a little speculation about what we have coming up in the next uh couple episodes where do you think we’re headed
In episode five o I’m going to say something pretty crazy hara’s family hara’s family wow that’s a that’s a out of left field but not not at all like I didn’t see that coming not like left field is in that’s that’s a wild idea it’s it’s um we we’ve seen um Omega
Meat uh Hera yeah so uh and I saw you kind of got excited when they did meet because they were set up to be friends right yes absolutely and Omega and Crosshair reunited with the batch in the last episode on the same Moon of rof from season one
Yeah wow that’s that would be really cool to see that pay off they did set it up are they going to pay it off that way or do we have to wait for another series to get announced might we see it somewhere else that that’s my frustrating part about knowing this is
The last season of the bad batch is that there’s so much more they could do with these characters in this story Beyond this season um wow that’s a good one that’s a really good one uh about you um there was something that was brought up and and I’ll I’ll tell you my
Speculation too but um in that final scene of episode uh uh four and I was rewatching it after I saw the the breakdown that uh from by and I want to think it was from screen Crush but I could be wrong on that um when we
See Omega come off the ship and she sees Hunter and uh wrecker it’s sort of like from behind Omega seeing Hunter and Recker across and then when it flips you kind of see from um recker’s perspective looking atega and then uh she runs across that the the distance and gives
Him a hug then when it backs out we get a side view and so that whole that whole sequence shows closeness shows closeness then when it backs out and you see it from the side and you see uh um Crosshair coming down the ramp at across there’s
This Chasm between them I thought wow what a great way visually to show what’s happening with the characters themselves like that was brilliant breakdown one that I didn’t catch and when I went back and watched it it reminded me of just the brilliant of these show producers the people uh
Animating this telling this story um in the quality of this and when you go back to yachi’s statement before about animation or the bad batch being greater than live action shots like that that are so well um uh choreographed or um uh written just is fantastic
Right um so uh it it really leans into it so now I think where we headed in episode five I think just from the trailers and things we’ve seen we’ve got to be going back to paboo that’s my thought um this might be the first episode that we don’t see Mount tantis or
Wayland what do you think It’s an interesting thought why paboo well because in the trailer we see uh fee and we also see a bunch of troopers on paboo right we see a bunch of them gathered there so I think they’re going to go there and then that that’s when
The Empire is going to say hey we heard they’re there and they’re going to go there maybe they’ve already left by the time the Empire gets there uh so yeah that’s what I’m think oh yeah and there’s this theory that paboo is the the town or the island and the planet is
Scarff that’s a heartbreaking thought it is yeah I I think it’s possible right um yeah so I think I think we’re going to to go to paboo next that’s my guess um so we’re going to see the three the three um young clones the Clone cadetes per yes because I think they
Took them there yeah and there’s a good chance that Omega again gets to see these other uh clones again or for the first time whatever yeah I do I do think so that’s that’s where I’m I’m headed with it and um a bird has told me to um delay expectations of seeing bounty
Hunters We’re not gonna see we’re not going to see Ventress or uh cat ban or U Finnick anytime soon so to me that’s what fits in and then if you look at the trailer there’s another point where there they seem to be attacking Mount tantis and I think
Before the season started and up to this point I kind of thought that that was when we were going to see Hunter wrecker recks bunch of people assaulting Mount tantis to get Omega but now we know she’s already escaped she’s already reunited with them and that that’s likely going to be
Something she says we’ve got to go back and save these there are brothers like that kind of thing and her sister by the way um which leads me to another question that I’m curious to get your take on do you think that should they should they have the opportunity would omega’s
Sister go with them what’s her name doctor whatever Emory yeah Emory do you think Emory would leave yeah I think they’re setting up Emory’s Redemption you can tell that she’s got mixed feelings after giving Hemlock the the blood sample so and you know she returns the
The tuer doll to aega so she’s not heartless my question is is she you know is she the product of cloning or is she D Jango Fett’s actual daughter it’s a good question because she says that she’s her sister right um but she doesn’t look like a typical
Clone no and neither does Omega right now that I think of it Omega and assar Ventress have the same hair that’s true well it’s becoming more that I I did notice that before Omega left um Mount tantis that she had the same hair as her sister yeah back same way ponytail yeah
Yeah and I do think there there are setting that up um which again leads me back to when this season ends and this series as is at its end do you feel like this story is going to be completely wrapped meaning everybody’s dead similar to I mean
Or is there more story to tell but we’ll have to get it somewhere else the second one yeah there’ll be more there’ll be more I hope so I hope so and I’m I’m I’m anxious I saw something come across and I didn’t check
It to see if it was real or not where uh Lucas film was looking for animators did you see that I did I did did you look into it I did yeah they’re looking for assistant animators who have medium um skill level so no one you know the top top but
People to assist the main animators are Lucas film so that’s almost certainly for some kind of upcoming project yeah I’m I’m anxious to hear what it will be um do you think we find out what the next animated series is before this concludes or are we going to have to
Wait a year or so to find out what it’ll be book of Boba Fett type of you think oh okay like at the end of Mando 2 there was an announcement book of Boba Fett December 2021 I think they’re going to do the same thing with bad batch where he’ll
Say I don’t know tales of the bounty hunters or whatever yeah yeah I also don’t think we’ll find out if anyone dies they might do like a a full Cliffhanger oh do you know do you know what I mean like the final episode is called um here
Comes the Cavalry and it could literally be all of them being like we’re going to take down the Empire and then as they storm tantis it cuts the black yeah I’m trying to think there was a movie or um a show that kind of did that
Just as they were going into battle I think it was a Marvel movie um I could be wrong where they’re just getting ready to go into battle and it just stops that’s the end of the show and you’re wondering well what happens an obsession I saw he says he
Thinks everybody dies in this similar to Rogue one right like I know the movie you mean I can’t remember which one it was was but they have like this big speech and they’re like you know if we do this we’re doing it together or something like that yeah and you kind of
See them smile at each other and then they look forward and they go they they like going into the the battle and then it just stops right the movie the movie ends yeah ah that uh that would both both be awesome and terrible right yeah H well um look I’m
Excited about it I I put the leaderboard down below then um episode four Baymax was the only one who got as many questions correct as I did and then the leaderboard is down to just the three Brian Brett and ccg Baymax is is climbing the leaderboard but still uh
Just a few points behind he’s got some catchup to make we’ll see how well I do this next week I had some information regarding episode before and um I shared that last week in Tuesday’s live stream beforehand and I did very very well this next episode I know very little I only
Know a couple of things um and and as I mentioned with the bounty hunters to uh lower my expectations and um to be more patient so that’s that’s basically all I know is that um cuz I was thinking the bounty hunters were going to show up sooner than later and I was
Told uh slow your roll Santa it’s not coming yet you’re going to have to wait in fact to be more specific um they’re they’re not in the first eight episodes we’re gonna have to wait until after episode eight to see them so um we’re we’ll have to we’ll have to see how that
Rolls out but uh so that’s that’s all I know so this week when I come to my predictions um I’m I’m going to I’m going to say well we’ll cover it next week but I think we’re going to paboo and um we’ll see the story unfold from there
As Omega starts to to rally the troops and say we need to go back to Mount tantis and they’re like what are you out of your mind why would we go back and she’s going to plead for all those who are being held there that’s my guess very
Interesting yeah it is it is it is um all right well I think uh I’ve got a Mike Porter dad joke and Mike Porter has been paying attention to the show and he knows that people have been uh uh trolling me on Darth pagus so I give you a little bit of a
Clue to the answer to the Mike Porter dad joke but it says who was Chancellor Palpatine referring to when he would ask about a Sith that would use others work as his own well he says have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth plagiarism it wasn’t
Wise I like it Mike very good what do you think Meg that’s a good one it is a good one do our plagiarism uh Mike Porter The Chosen pun thank you for that Megan uh thanks for for being uh here today thanks for staying long and talking about the bad
Batch it’s great um in your video today was was excellent I I had fun uh listening to it and uh and discussing it in your in your Discord so uh any plans for the weekend do anything fun good question first time in a long time I
Don’t actually know I’ve got a bad batch for you tomorrow okay but um what’s the general topic of the bad batch video I can just tell you it’s uh does cross had know that Tech is dead oh excellent It’s a good teaser for tomorrow excellent very good uh our
Plans this weekend are house cleaning which kind of stinks because the weather is going to be fantastic here uh sunny and warm for the beginning of March we’re coming in like a lamb which means it’s supposed to go out like a lion uh how’s the how’s March opening for you
Good weather or or rocky storm very Rocky very stormy blustery raining okay well um so you you have promise of a coming uh leaving like a lamb we having nice weather at the end of the month so here we’re we’re doing it backwards uh it’s coming in nicely
And then it’s going to get my guess is that if it follows the the the tradition it’ll go out kind of like a lion and be no fun at all all right well Meg thanks again thank you so much having me exactly so uh if you want to hang out
And talk afterward that’s fine otherwise uh have a wonderful weekend my friend you too Santa thank you thank you and for everybody here thank you all for being here and until next time my friends Merry Christmas and May the force be with you always byebye
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