You’re Crazy what’s going on everybody welcome back to another jam-packed episode of the v files reality recap style I’m your host Nick joined by the household of Ali sweet sweet sweet boy Justin we got Leia era is back our also pop culture correspondent like I feel like n just
Kind of upgraded as like mother of the household mother yeah house mother she’s house mother um and soon to be back at reality recap she’s she’s she’s already returned to going deeper for those every I know everyone has Miss n’s presence and uh soon to be back at R recap and
Our special special guest today returning to the show The One and Only Emily longeretta from variety how are you Emily how are you I’m doing wonderful I was kind of hoping I would see Natalie today but I understand yeah she’s got some stuff going thank you for understanding little busy yeah you know
She’s she’s excited to come back but it’s assist a lot sometimes she sends her uh wishes she says hi to the reality recap audience uh be sure to tune in oh by the way big episode this Thursday ad from Love is Blind is with us uh her exclusive podcast Premiere interview
Following her being left at the altar which and we will be I know a little little RNR for you on going deeper the reunion comes out I think Wednesday Wednesday yeah and so we’ll be breaking down the reunion along with interviewing ad on Thursday’s episode so tune in for
That so that’ll be good that’ll be fun Lots going on this weekend uh Oscars that happened I mean what did we think all I think about all I can think about is John Cena walking naked on stage good he John Cena and Ryan Gosling I mean
Really just own the show right yeah that was the two Ryan Gosling can sing I think people forget that he was a former uh like Disney Mick Mickey Mouse Club guy I know there was the video was circling last night on Twitter and I was like people all forgot about this
Everyone was like oh my gosh he can sing I was like guys he got his start with Justin jtimberlake and BR Spears like it is really annoying in Hollywood like watching Ryan Gosling thank you okay watching Ryan Gosling sing reminded me of what it’s like to to go to karaoke in
Hollywood oh yeah I would never um cuz you go to karaoke anywhere else you know every once in a while there’s someone who maybe can like kind of sing you go to karaoke in Hollywood you’re like oh my God like there’s like a bunch of like undiscovered Sensations that also just
Happened to be beautiful and like it’s like holy [ __ ] the whole package you’re like sitting in the corner like oh uh it is it is really wild anyway so yeah turns out he’s got a beautiful voice oh yeah uh I saw a couple uh tweets out there saying thank uh Justin timberlink
Must be you know thanking his lucky stars Ryan Gosling chose acting instead of uh music but yeah he did well congrats to Emma Stone who won her second Oscar yeah that was definitely my favorite moment of the night yeah she looks so genuine I usually hate this the surprise face
That’s like my biggest cringe in any award show because I’m like come on you weren’t surprised she looked she’s a great actor but like she looked genuinely surprised I mean and I think people just really thought like Gladstone was going to take it I don’t
Know why it felt like it seemed like it was this one was maybe I don’t more meaningful than her first you know like you win your you win your first like I know like I know anything about winning an oscar but like yeah it’s just like to
Be able to come back and do it again you know she’s she she referenced her daughter you know she’s be became a mom and to come back to work and then still [ __ ] crush it must be very meaningful I was rooting for Emma we have some
Mutual friends I I’ve met her a couple times uh it’s like very nice so there’s there was like an extra kind of that was cool yeah roller skating with her mom I think I’ve told that story on the show before it was one of the more uh
Interesting nights of my life a few years back Emma had a a fundraiser we again I we have some mutual friends uh it was at a roller skating rink so I got invited cuz I roller skate and I was just like just doing this laps uh and then Emma’s mom was
There she was a decent roller skater but I was just like well I’m a good roller skater so for like a good 45 minutes I’m just skating backwards holding Emma Stone’s mom’s uh hand and I was like yeah I can IC with you all [ __ ] night
You’re M she was a very lovely lady just very nice and very sweet just so wholesome and then there was a moment right after that where Brie Larson and I’m pretty sure the H sisters were there because that it’s you know so they had this little like VIP area of which I was
With the mutual friends invited into that little room in Hollywood or like in LA it was that uh world of world on Wheels the yeah the one in Midtown the worlder skting rink I think it’s world on world on world on Wheels what’s it called Justin there’s moonlight
Moonlight is in Glendale it was yeah it wasn’t at Moonlight World on Wheels is Mid City that’s probably what you’re talking about mid city okay is that is World on Wheel okay so it was there and another one of our mutual friends uh she had brought her boyfriend and uh they had this
Fight and she started crying and so I went over to my friend now at this point I had met Brie Larson before she had invited me to her house when I was The Bachelor at a viewing party uh so Bri was familiar with me and I and I know
Like the H sisters watch The Bachelor pretty well or at least they did and so uh I didn’t know this at the time but like so my friend was crying right and I went you know and I had know i’ I’ve known my friend for a while she had been
Getting in fights with her boyfriend for a while and so it was like here we go again but I noticed that she was crying you know so I went over to console her and just be like hey are you checking in are you okay she’s like yeah I’m fine
Whatever and so like I was like okay and I kind of patted around the back and then got up and went roller skating not the backp you know just like a little Pat in the back and then I was like all right well I’m going to go back and hit
The lane you know like and started roller skating meanwhile unbeknownst to me Brie Larson and the H sisters are watching this but they missed the first part so they missed the part where uh my friend was fighting with her boyfriend and they didn’t know know if I was
Dating anyone I had you know I was the former Bachelor at this point they weren’t like following my love life at this and so what they thought they thought I was breaking up with my friend and what they witnessed was the former Bachelor like kind of padding what they
Thought was his you know now ex-girlfriend publicly breaking up with her they thought they thought I was publicly breaking up with her then patting her on the back and then wenton said well [ __ ] it I’m going to go roller skating they like so like they think I’m
A monster at this point skating off into the distance yeah and then they went to our mutual friends like did you see that Nick was is was why did he break up with his girlfriend and go roller skating afterwards they’re like no no he’s not they’re he’s not dating that girl why
Did he bring her here for this brought her there to publicly break up in there so for uh for a moment they uh they thought I was and I I think I think they finally I think word got out that I wasn’t dating her
But I I don’t I don’t know for sure if they left if some of those super famous celebrities left thinking like oh wow that [ __ ] is an [ __ ] I love that they made a whole story line in their heads yeah and they Ned it for
Them we all do that they were W I mean they were as as far as away I’m away from you Justin that’s how it was like this little small section VIP section and they just were watching like this all go down but they missed the first half of it
Uh so yeah anyways congrats amstone yeah I will say she is very genuine and we know that because she also missed an award going to the bathroom yes so I think it’s a lot of unplanned authenticity I know I loved that she was like I’m missing all the awards for poor
Things cuz I went to the bathroom at the wrong time so cute yeah she’s uh she’s very sweet Oppenheimer congrats to Josh peek and uh the entire Oppenheimer gang Oppenheimer really crushed yeah yeah and Josh Peck was in Oppenheimer so yeah and he a FR of the show I also have to say
That this year the Fashion on the red carpet I think made the ghost of Jon Rivers so happy truly some of the best I’ve seen in year in years every single oh I have a hard time like usually I’m like oh it was kind of split I feel like
I have a hard time even thinking of bad fashion M well everyone looked so good favorite looks Carrie Mulligan Balenciaga look was everything yes she looked amazing she looked so so good uh Margo Robbie looked amazing Z AR Grande uh there’s just there was so many amazing looks this year and usually
Fashion is like the hardest part for me to watch where I’m like what are we doing same this year everybody stylist should get a race it yeah and at the Vanity Fair party they had um Sydney Sweeney was in this dress that they kind of a mar Ro yeah and Angelina Jolie wore
It like 20 years ago to to the Oscars and putting it side by side I was like oh it literally looks amazing on both people like this was such a Flawless Timeless dress truly such a good night for fashion Vanessa hudin is pregnant yeah she her red carpet debut with the
Baby congratulations very pregnant doesn’t seem like she’s newly pregnant it seems a couple months probably yeah she hid it too she did a Kylie jous nobody knew love that well congratulations to her and her partner Bradley Cooper brought his mom and Ryan Gosling brought his sister
Sister do we love those I love a family affair I was happy that Bradley Cooper didn’t bring Gigi haded I feel like then people everyone would have been talking about it and it would have been a whole thing but that would been fun for us so
Fun for us I saw I saw I saw something it’s just like who else could have Bradley Cooper brought because he hates his daughter oh that’s so sad he loves her now he loves her now yeah it only took him eight months or so I don’t feel
Connected to this thing at all can we also talk that didero looked like the most miserable person on the planet I would be if I were him imagine how many Oscars that [ __ ] has been to like he’s just got to be like [ __ ] this
And now he has like a baby on the way again and he’s like I don’t I just I don’t know I was like can you crack a smile please like come on you think Leo didn’t show up because he got snubbed do you think he was protesting I think he
Probably there was probably a part of him that was like I need to go yeah I mean if you’re Leo it’s like why this these things must be so boring but he has been totally but he has been for so long supporting Lily that that would
Have been nice if he came just because she was nominated oh that’s right yeah why didn’t he why wasn’t he there I don’t think we know we had our power women event we had honored Lily and Leo actually came to introduce her and it
Was the best it was so they have such a sweet friendship that I was kind of surprised that he wasn’t there just to like cheer her on I will say a source had mentioned that he was forced not to come because he’s currently filming a production for Paul Thomas Anderson oh
That could be true so it was like they’re filming at the same time so it just didn’t align so so it’s not like we he was later seen that night at like uh went to the parties you know cuz it’s not hard to find Leo at a club in La no
Yeah it’s it’s not exactly a oh my God I can’t believe he’s here like left the house I did like that they brought out some many former winners to introduce I thought that was a cool thing to do I’m a little interested in how they picked which winners to bring out because there
Was a little bit of lack of diversity they could have done a little better there that’s just my my shout out but I was happy with most well they didn’t exactly have like a a very like it hasn’t been that long since the nominations and winners were more
Diverse right but I mean not having Halle Berry was an option well do you think they didn’t ask Holly Berry I don’t know I don’t know I guess that’s something we should ask but I I should ask the producers but I don’t maybe maybe she was also filming maybe she was
Yeah I don’t know just there are some CU yeah you’re right you you invite her you have to you who doesn’t invite she should be invited to everything everything she she’s got she’s on your list of like the top of the list like I don’t like no she wasn’t in the movie I
Don’t care can we still ask her just just ask her uh John yeah I was to say I think they should have invited K Middleton I mean I think that would have been a really good opportunity for everybody where is she oh my God at first I
Thought this was like just the internet having fun and clearly Kate was fine it’s just the weird royal family she’s just not up for it and then the internet was just losing their mind and now now it’s like is she okay is she alive are they together there’s something NE
There’s something nefarious the latest thing was she was in the car with him right the photo of morning suggest yeah the side of her face but like wait a week ago when we literally when we were recording this last week at when we got done recording Allie’s like breaking
News there’s this very [ __ ] blurry picture of Kate Milton in a car when every other pop photo we’ve ever seen of Kate Middleton in the in a car is four [ __ ] K you know the best photos of the best photos ever but this one is like super pixelated like it could be
Her it could be a million other like you know anyone else brunettes could have been me like literally could have been you like it could have been Sierra now that I’m like yeah been Natalie like literally any for your eyes you’re just like oh my God can’t medon holy [ __ ]
They literally brought back the girl who’s playing her in the crown and they’re like sit in a car with Carol yeah exactly right go so then that happens and then this was it was Mother’s Day in England yesterday and they released this photo of Kate Middleton and the kiddos and then
Quickly the internet started like doing their thing only discovered this is a very fabricated photo you know like yeah just like looking at the look at the window panes in the back like the how crooked like that line is the biggest one for me is that is that on her upper
Chest you can literally see that there’s another photo patched on top of the body where am I seeing this like it’s a little hard in this image but like where the jaw string are right where the strings are like right on her chest there’s like a line where
You can see that the top half was patched onto the bottom I can’t see it body but oh did you see like and then now people are trying to find the sources of the image there was one where it was like seemed to be sourced from a
Magazine cover oh my goodness and it looks like it looks like the exact same photo when you do a side by side I mean Tik Tok is going crazy with this they’re going back and looking at uh images from 2023 of Kate wearing this sweater and
They think that it was white and then they darkened it and then her daughter was wearing this shirt with the same shoes and then this morning from their Jo if I understand correctly William and Kate’s joint Twitter account it was in the in the POV of Kate is if she is
Actually tweeting which we all know there’s no way in the world she doesn’t issues a statement like oh oh my guys oops like I’m sorry just like playing with editing I’m an amateur like you’re telling me K Middleton’s scrolling through face tune on her phone and just
Like having fun and like guys I want to post this like we think she’s sitting there on phot she we think she knows how to use Photoshop like she said for Mother’s Day this is the best I can do I just I feel like I feel like we’re in
Like an extended episode of Black Mirror when it comes to this where it’s just like you are now in it we don’t know if are any of these people together like Ally also pointed out the weather like for those of you listening in London
What is it is it spring is it green and sunny like it could that could be yeah who knows yeah there’s so much going on there like yeah and so and and we’re we’re led to believe that Kate is photoshopping her own photos mhm we all
Know the the one thing that would squash all these rumors is uh just some sort of selfie video from Kate being like hey guys sorry like playing around totally okay having fun here are the kids as her but as just pling Devil’s Advocate does she really need to do that no she’s a
Royal she doesn’t need to do that who cares what people think that’s kind of in my mind I while I enjoy this and while I would love to see her and make sure she’s okay I I don’t think it’s really necessary well it’s not necessary but like now it’s gotten weird it is
Weird it is weird it’s it’s just gotten so [ __ ] weird it’s gotten to the point where even people like me who are just like you know who generally thinks the royal family conversations are all just silly to begin with and then again when a couple weeks ago when this
Conversation started it was like clearly she’s fine clearly she’s just like doing her royal thing and we don’t understand but now it’s gotten [ __ ] bizarre to post this photo which is clearly they couldn’t get together if you want to talk about a necessary like this Photoshop image was very unnecessary and
So that creates so many more questions yeah you’re right and now it’s just like now there’s a lot of conversations about like is is divorce imminent like is is does William have like a a side chick and is Kate like refusing to do anything like why is this happening and again it
Could all be squashed by a simple video and again you’re right she doesn’t need to do that but she also doesn’t need to photoshop pH done this and then tweeting it even this morning it’s like oh no stop you’re continuing to dig deeper and and the lies that they’re coming up with
Are just not good you know like is Riley also Kate Middleton’s publicist it’s like when she’s not helping out Tom sandal like you know um crisis your crisis PR she’s flying over to the Royal Palace and be like all right Kate here’s what we need to do we
Need to Photoshop did let’s find three different four different photos one of each of you and we’re going to push it all into one R just like guys just tell them that Kate was photoshopping everyone will believe it it’s totally fine you would think they would put this
Through multiple rounds of review I’m just like the royal family has enough money to hire decent Photoshop truly like who fumbled the ball here well and don’t they all have their own PR person like per individual too that I’m just like how are we not coordinating here
Being like maybe this was not the best idea well yeah I mean anything they post any tweet any story any has to go through like at least six or seven people so it’s like all of those people signed off everybody but you didn’t notice her skirt’s not attached
To her body and it’s not just one thing there are like seven issues all the kids it’s also just like and this is just like a weird thing like all the kids hands all the are are they’re crossing their they’re crossing their fingers as if like hey like that
To they’re all no one of them one of their fingers is like this it’s the middle finger over the ring finger that’s not even natural yeah the the one all the way on the left like what is happening there but is it natural not wearing her iconic wedding ring Diana’s
Ring right like why is she not wearing her ring even before even before the it was it’s the story broke that this was a [ __ ] photo even when we thought it was a real photo it was like why isn’t she wearing her wedding ring it was like
Such a such a miss and you’re telling me that all those people saw that and no one was like hey may we should Photoshop the ring on Kate’s like sorry like and dizy so yeah so so if Kate if we’re led to believe that Kate actually photoshopped
This did she Photoshop her ring out was that her making a statement I don’t know it could be like a free Britney moment the little things matter it’s giving yeah it’s giving free Britney well William’s brother and uh and uh his wife are thriving I was surprised they weren’t the Oscars to be
Honest they were probably just like having a ball just getting they they were probably just deeply invested in the story they must be they love it’s on them the spare and his wife must be thrilled yeah it’s the it’s the Tweet you sent that said the Princess of Wales
Is missing and the spare Prince is in Exile and the king is treating his cancer with herbs If This Were the 1300s France would be looking to invade yeah truly they wouldit who who let give the Creator some who’s the creator on that tweet it is stepan Smith the Stephan
Smith there you go Stephan Smith yeah truly that’s so true what is happening it is so bizarre anyways thank you for the content did you see the clip of ekin Sue on Big Brother UK and she’s she’s asking like Uncle is on Big Brother w wow I totally didn’t see that oh it’s
Hysterical she’s just sitting there just casually being like so where’s Kate Middleton and he’s like oh well you know like very Uncle like response being like I have no idea but like he’s just like I you know we’re not really talk we don’t know like when she’s ready to come
Forward we like oh okay of the horror of being a celebrity I could not imagine you know granted I’m not I’m not ever close but the horror of being a celebrity and then your uncle right being able to go on a big brother show so scary to me it’s just horrify I could
Not like imagine like some of my aunts and uncles or cousins being able to go on like big brother because they’re related to me that this well Ariana Grande’s brother went on Big Brother too yeah that’s he became he became an actual like the middletons have been so they’re
Are hand inand with the firm they are very they’ve always wanted Kate to be with William her mom had her like switch schools last minute so that she could meet William and they fall in love so it’s like how did Carol sign off on her brother doing
This come on Carol do you really think she signed off I I maybe he went rogue maybe he’s the hairy of their family everyone has a hairy everyone everyone has a spare you know but yeah it’s like the fact that her her her uncle is on
Big Brother wild is wild uh is it uh should we get into Bravo World Traders is that kind of Bravo world I mean Andy’s hosting the reunion Bravo Jon yeah peacock yeah anyway I mean in the Traders reunion he did say Bravo people are more sensitive and take things
Personal versus like game show people see like these Jabs and these manipulation as just a move well yeah that was the whole overarching theme of The Reunion was like this is a game and no one’s and like I don’t know everyone needed to take a chill pill everyone was
Real stressed at that reunion uh anyways it is it is Traders time it’s uh on peacock every Thursday at 9:00 it’s now over but you know so spoil alert we’re going to talk about the season if you haven’t watched it yet but yeah so congratulations to shelle and and CT
Which is kind of funny that the first person cast it out was Johnny Bananas cuz it was the three of them from The Challenge he he must be really upset about that first one to go the challenge was the first show I ever covered when I became a journalist I’ve been watching
It from the beginning I’m die hard so like this season was like my dream so the big question is was CT and trelle in on it did they screw over 1% um MJ MJ and right 1,000% I feel like they were like no matter who goes to the end if
We’re standing at that fire with four other people we’re eliminating people until it’s the two of us well didn’t one of them even say that in the show where they were like we made a deal that it would be the two of us at the end yeah
And CT said it uh when he like was Voting or whatever and he was like no there’s not one other person I trust and not one other person I want to split that pot with right but do you think that trelle voted for CT at first just
To kind of cover their tracks absolutely yeah she explained I I watched a few podcasts that she did and she was saying that she she claimed she actually thought he was a Trader for a minute I was like there’s no way there’s no way in the world just cover I also think
Producers were like maybe right CT so this can be a little more dramatic maybe yeah but they clearly they know how to play the games they’re game players that they’ve made a literally entire career out of it and trelle was like on top of all season long and she if she thought
That CT was actually a traitor this would not have been the F the first time we’re hearing about it is on her like PR podcast tour please come on like we’re not we’re not that stupid shelle no and and then at the reunion they were like
MJ like get over it like listen MJ has a right to be so [ __ ] pissed yeah I’d be pissed I mean they screwed her out of how much money what was the what was the pot at that point 250 was the pot I think and it was like
208 in some sense cuz I think they got 104 something each 104,000 so would have been roughly 69,000 so give or take 70 grand they were like sorry bye like it’s a game and you’re playing to win money yeah so like the most famous like in famous thing that happened on the
Challenge was Johnny Bananas stealing from his partner at the very end when he won with Sarah and they introduced a Twist that was like oh by the way you want to steal the pop from your partner like the person who got you to the end and he was like I’m taking the money
Yeah and took the whole thing remember the bachelor exactly his name Nick or Nick or something remember that and he took the money took the money cuz like if you both agreed to share like you would both split it and if if if you said keep it
And the other person said share the person who said Keep it got to keep it if you both say keep it nobody get you got and everyone kind of went into it with like we’re always going to share we’re always going to share like that too but I don’t think
Anybody’s ever no they’ve never but on Bachelor was it bachelor pad that I I remember that that was they started doing it on AR the one I think they need to bring bachelor pad back and get rid of par Bachelor in Paradise so the The Producers had told me when they were
Talking about now that they’re in this whole golden world and golden is the like the future I would say that they are like they would want to do something like Bachelor packs I was like golden Paradise is not going to work you can’t have that age group living on a beach so
But they could do they said like they’d be interested in doing like a bachelor Pat B in like also reality TV competition shows are like in Vogue nowt so like maybe just B P was ahead of its time Bring It Back it’ll even at least the first season will do very well oh
Yeah the thing about bachelor pad if if Bachelor would just be willing to like let go of like they’re so focused on being on brand when it comes to love so like even when bachelor pad was on it was always like where are the love stories do people fall in love and it
Was like they were they they have a hard time letting go of this show is obviously first and foremost a show about finding love which I totally get but I would hope that if he would they bring a show like bashed back they would loosen up on that yeah and maybe they
Could like bring back some of your alumni that are in relationships and married totally you know and just have just have it be a competition actually is pitching this because he wants to go on we’re all seeing this right he’s like bring back people who are about to get
Married who just had a baby I will I I’m not I would I would never go on another Bacher show ever again no no offense to the bach franchise I love them you know but I’m just like done with that got I got you uh but they should they
Absolutely should do that they should let go of the whole love aspect yeah and and bring people back I mean they tried to do Winter Games remember that oh no one watched it no I watched it I watched it too I’m a competition girl so that to
Me I’m like I need competition people from Canada I heard was like good the show itself I heard was good but it was well prod watch it yeah it was produced well that’s when astred and is that when they got together yeah I can’t remember his name Kevin yeah Kevin yeah the
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Strategy being the pr girly that she is it it’s again what I said last time where I’m just like I don’t understand how you have so many seasons and can’t watch things back but like what I’m learning is that she has her version of reality and she lives that in the moment
And then that’s what she’s telling everybody but being able to watch it in real time it’s like oh there’s zero accountability for your side of like for your doing in this destruction of your relationship but it’s just like crazy to me because like she came on this show
And told her side of the story which again very grateful that she did thank you Lindsay for coming on and we wanted to give her her the floor to share her side of the story and like her side of the story was at the time and again from
R POV having haven’t watched any part of the season was like hey there’s reality TV and then there’s like you know your personal life and it’s just like Carl setting up Lindsay and blindsiding her on camera uh very like aie season when he broke up with Becca on camera and was
One of the most hated men in America truly I mean that the Wrath that Ari on Bachelor felt was I mean it it got to levels of almost scary like holy [ __ ] Bach Nation chill the [ __ ] out like it’s this is a TV show I mean it was people were putting up
Billboards it was [ __ ] crazy the hate that Ari got for simply deciding that the the woman he picked after n weeks of dating and six hours with her realizing that maybe that wasn’t the girl he wanted to spend the rest of her life with me meanwhile because he broke up
With her simultaneously made her The Bachelorette so in reality what actually happened is that Ari instead of like saying hey instead of breaking up with you 7 months from now I’m just going to break up with you now so that you can be the bachelorette and but nevertheless he
Was still [ __ ] crucified a th% just absolutely destroyed so here we are Lindsay kind of in the same vein and being like hey I know it’s [ __ ] TV but this [ __ ] ended our relationship on TV and we’re sitting here being like God what a [ __ ] [ __ ] you know he called producers
Before he told you like could yeah monster completely leaving out the fact that we’re about it and then what I don’t understand about Lindsay’s strategy is that like her coming on this show which is is a pretty large platform we have a pretty large reach when Bravo
Characters uh come on like not only are they telling the story they’re they’re also like telling our audience the like the millions of people who listen every month to like oh maybe we should watch summerhouse this seems like a really juicy story like boy I want to like
Lindsay was promoting summerhouse so she came on here to tell her story being like you should watch this [ __ ] and I was like I’m definitely going to watch summerh house for the first time right like you know I did my homework you know but I had not seen an episode I’m I’m
Invested in this season only to now watch Lindsay like just completely every scene is about just throwing her then fiance under the bus I couldn’t imagine being in a relationship where like I’m you’re I’m constantly being called out by my partner to her girlfriends as like
This terrible partner it is wild to me two years of sobriety down down the drain because uh you didn’t agree with my her her whole thing was that she thought the girls were going to feel weird about her going in a different car and so she said in in the car and had
Kyle and Carl being like it’s fine you’re you’re nobody’s worried about you and she’s like no you guys don’t understand to then saying that Carl got aggressive with her and calling him cocaine Carl where I’m just like the fact that you could say that on camera
At home and not even think twice about it like you are the problem and then she goes on and makes her PR statement saying I used the wrong words uh babe yeah you did you I mean that’s the thing you’re using language like you got aggressive with me it’s 2024 yeah you
Know and we’re we aggressive we are hyper Vigilant you know as darit said uh words have meaning words have meaning yeah but what you said before like that it’s this this far in and you’re still not watching back or you’re still not realizing the cameras like come on this
Isn’t your first season doing this you aren’t new at this a th% you know what you’re doing when you’re saying that stuff and there’s a camera in front of you you could have saved this for a phone call at home back in New York but
You are back in the city but it’s like you’re doing this with people with your castmates knowing that he’s going to have to come come home and deal with it and then it’s her doubling down the next day and going and telling Danielle like the same story yet again like repeated
And it’s just like oh wow you’re not going to take any accountability for your part in this but you want to turn everybody against Carl who’s your partner that you’re choosing to spend the rest of your life with and when she threw him under the bus with the whole
Like him not being able to figure out his career choice and she was like I got him a career coach $20,000 for 6 months and he still doesn’t know what he wants to do and it’s just like I don’t know it just gave me like a very icky feeling
That I’m like you’re talking about your future partner like this if you’re spending $20,000 on a career coach you’re wasting like right off the bat I can tell you that’s a bad investment red flag you know like I I I I do think Lindsay just I I think uh scand ofal has
Really warp the sense of reality with some of these real TV stars and thinking that they can have their scand ofal moment you know like I think every reality TV star when they see another reality TV star like pop you know over some sort of Scandal they
All get very envious of that person and and try to recreate that Scandal you can’t you can’t create these organic and I think for all the crazy speculation about Scandal being staged or manufactured by producers I think the fact that you have other reality TV stars like Lindsay try to manufacture
Actually manufacture their own Scandal shows that like these types of things that go ultrav viral and like really just like immerse themselves in the zeis of pop culture like to do something like that it has to be this organic thing it can’t be forced or contrived you know it
Really has to be this truly genuine moment I’d be willing to bet that while Carl is breaking up with her on camera she went into like Lindsay PR mode and started thinking about how she could spin this in her favor and completely lost track of like reality like she
Stopped thinking she wasn’t even paying attention to what was happening and she thought this is going to be my big moment mhm that must be it you’re dead I think you’re dead on just because uh the first episode they were talking about going to the White House and she was
Like the only other person that would be invited is like Ariana and then in the preview coming up she tells Carl she’s yelling at him and says you’re acting like sand ofal right now and it’s like why are these your references for everyday life it’s not it’s not normal
She has the notes down she’s like okay step one two three called it called it just had Lindsay just come on here and said listen like yeah like we had our problems and I played a role in our in our destruction and like definitely you’re going to watch the season and
You’re going to see some moments I’m not super proud of and things I could have said differently had she it just said that you know the lack of accountability but just to pretend none of that happened that’s what they need to start spending instead of $20,000 on Career coaches accountability coaches okay
Nobody on Bravo nobody lot mostly on reality tv nobody knows how to hold themselves accountable especially yeah I know it was wild I mean would it be better if she handled it like Sheena did in this recent episode what a tough episode for Sheena what a tough episode
Sheena had more tears than Lindsay is there any chance that Sheena is just taken one for the team I don’t think so I think it’s the lack of selfawareness yet again and throughout these casts because she made a point in an after show saying that she’s never been the
Star of a season that she always gets a bad edit that no and I’m like babe you you do this to yourself I know I the blaming on the edit is so I’m so done with it right I’m so done with it like you are choosing this this is you yeah
There’s a reason why we have these moments on film right and of of course there are things that get edited we all know that but I could not believe it my jaw dropped when Sheena was like why can’t just one moment be about me and I’m thinking
Sheena there have been so many moments that have been about you you’ve had two not one two weddings yes on this show a bachette party when she got into a van on that one trip and she famously said I’d rather get gangbanged by all these guys in front of her then fiance mhm
That moment was about her her break up with her fiance that was on camera and then when she went back to her bachelorette party also that was about her and then good as gold was on camera multiple times she was the star of the parade singing her song 75 times over
And over again yeah there’s been ton of moments about her you know um also like the season 10 finale the most watched season of Vander pump she had the most iconic moment her conversation with Tom was her and she got credit for it she
She was the she was at at the the final thought of that season was a a really great Moment by Sheena we all thought Sheena changed her ways and was like cool you’re not only are you a girls girl now but you’re like standing up and
Saying what needs to be said and then it’s just like we’re back season 11 we’re back the restraining order at the reunion right yeah that was about her yeah yeah and we were rooting for her like truly I was like that’s so [ __ ]
Up I do think she gets a pat on the back for carrying this episode though yeah like at least 40 minutes of it was her oh it was all her yeah I mean yeah no it was awesome like I I loved watching it yeah it was you know when the it’s like
When the uh yoga instructor or whatever person was there when they were like that set up that was just so what did she say what did she say when she was like well you know and if you’re not feeling good don’t hide it you know just
Shea was like that’s my queue I’m like I’m not okay actually and I [ __ ] hate you gone we’re like oh oh here we go she cried more than she spoke this episode it was my God like I was like that is her new cardio is crying she was just
Like I I give so much and I’m like and I feel bad for her at the same time just because it is the lack of self-awareness for me that I’m like I don’t doubt that that is your truth your reality but at the same time I’m like girl this is so
Not about you and the idea that you’re calling the person who actually got cheated on looking for validation about your feelings but I don’t have understand in why the internet like where she anyone who’s like on this whole like Ariana needs to get over herself Ariana is simply just setting about
And saying I just don’t want to associate with this person anymore and if you do fine but like personally I need to make some tough choices in my life for my own mental health yeah the whole living situation yes it’s kind of weird or bizarre fine but nevertheless
She is not asking anyone not to hang out with them she’s just like I don’t want to [ __ ] with that person and that’s called being an adult right you know and so I don’t know what Ariana is doing other than just that you know so setting boundaries setting boundaries like I
Just don’t want to [ __ ] with this person I also feel like she specifically didn’t want to go on this trip because she doesn’t want to concern herself with s sand ofal at all and yet sheena’s calling her every 5 Seconds to give her updates on how the trip is going yeah it
Would literally be like stop calling me yeah I I don’t want to hear about it Tom I chose not to go Tom Sandoval’s like not non-accountability has been well documented espee especially even on this show um but uh his line that he’s Now using you know it’s like Rachel and I or
Raquel and I I don’t know who like if if if it’s Raquel when we’re talking about the affair who she used to be yeah we didn’t mean anything malicious by this but you guys did it’s like wait not giving a [ __ ] about someone else’s feelings while you’re [ __ ] someone
Else pretty malicious to me it doesn’t make you the good guy yeah just be that doesn’t make you yeah like oh well we weren’t thinking of you yeah clearly talk about your feelings so yeah it’s like well so so now you’re the bad guys for your
Reaction to my AC you’re being like I have no empathy I don’t care about your feelings but what you’re doing seems personal because it actually hurt me cuz that’s all he cares about it’s wild yeah he’s like how I feel about I will say it’s it’s almost convincing you’re like
Wow you know what he didn’t you’re right they they are they are trying to get back like but wait wait [ __ ] you didn’t you did this you did this it’s the uh it’s also what you were saying earlier that that confuses me is that I was like this
Is filming what two months three months after Scandal broke too so it’s weird that like all of these people got on their on their platform saying how awful he is how awful he is and now you guys are trying to Gaslight Ariana to being the bad guy for saying hey I just don’t
Want to be around him like this just happened he cheated on her seven Monon affair with a close friend friend I’m like for me even objectively I’d be like if you’re capable of doing that to somebody that you care about that you love that you were with for 9 years why
Would I be any different as a friend you know what I mean yeah like there’s no trust there whatsoever no and he even said to Sheena we’re not friends like he verbatim said that and now she’s like he was one of my closest friends I was like he literally denied being friends with
You two months ago and now you’re crying to his ex he blocked your daughter on Instagram for goodness sakes I can see Shea perspective in the sense of he gave me money during Co when I was struggling though like that was pretty powerful for to say it was powerful but I was a
Little confused by that I’m also alarmed yeah same how broke these people have been on TV for a decade they were on TV when social media became a thing when when when making money on social media became a a thing so they were Mak more they were on TV in the most lucrative
Like part of the internet and when the reason I say that is because now like yeah maybe there are more deals to be had today because there are more Brands comfortable with marketing on social media but now the competition is fierce now you have an infinite number of
Reality TV stars and influencers and Tik tokers when social media like when swipe UPS became a thing there wasn’t that much competition right there were only so many you know they weren’t even real influencers like there are today there were just like real TV stars and so the
Opportunity for the Sheena and Ariana and and their entire cast of aner pump to make [ __ ] bank was there yep and I’m just where did it all go you know like did you not get what was she spending on I’m just so confused because also also didn’t she say PayPal that’s
How they sent it and how is Tom S better with money than you are there was many questions there I had a lot of I was like huh also in like I know the you know the gender pay Gap you know we still have some work to do but
In the influencing world it’s a woman’s world you know like women make 80% more than men um so the fact that Tom sandal allegedly has more money than Sheena she didn’t have an an in her life what it was I I don’t know it’s uh there it raises more questions than answers well
She specifically said I didn’t have income like I was brok and I didn’t have income so it could be more like she felt like she was broke because she didn’t have a stream of income but it was 2020 like four cast members got fired she didn’t so I’m like where social Med
Didn’t exist and I can assure you that while again while 2020 was not fun for many many many people in this world technology went through the roof because everyone was home and at their phone and social media blew the [ __ ] up that’s when Tik Tok really came out and there
Was I’m just saying money thrown there was money being thrown around by tech companies and and Brands during that time so I don’t know what the [ __ ] sheena’s talking about like maybe maybe I don’t know maybe she needs a new team I don’t know also like way to like
Casually throw your husband on the bus yeah uh he wasn’t working either apparently you know it’s just like God like ew like imagine like you know publicly being like yeah sorry I don’t have an income I know I’m married and have a husband but he’s worthless uh and
I need some money from Tom sanal like what a what a tough scene when did they move into their house well she they have she has a house in in U Palm Springs and I’m pretty sure they rent a house in in yeah I don’t know maybe that’s just made
Up I don’t know maybe that was for the show it doesn’t seem to track well she had a house in Marina del re like right on the Harbor and I’m like that’s not cheap rent first of all well because they used to have that place in Hollywood Nick when we filmed that Brook
Linen campaign and she was like we only use this when we’re filming or else just like sits empty and I’m like that’s expensive rent to sit empty that’s that’s four that’s four or $5,000 a month yeah which you know you know when you’re a star on a popular reality TV
Show you know like they’re making money I mean we knew that Raquel what Raquel made 300 some thousand and she definitely is not the most paid person right not even close so where’s but Raquel had a fake apartment for filming too it’s like they all have multiple
Places yeah right so I do think it has to come down to their team not being someone’s not managing her right like I’m on the impression that most of the Vander pump has a lot the same team yeah I mean I know I know they do to a point
But I would assume they also have like specific people for social media or specific personal assistance I don’t think Riley is a PR person for everyone I think so so I know they all have like the same managers and whatnot lawyer that’s cuz Bravo is like we’re going to
Give you somebody we got you I know if it was that though I think that’s how it starts and then maybe right and then it’s like oh we this person was really good for me so when you have a cheating scandal here’s who to use I also really
Can’t get on board with the I will if for all of Tom’s C like I’m I I can’t say that I’m team Tom versus Tom versus Lala but I don’t get where Lala’s coming from also was it recently I I saw a clip of Lala on her podcast I don’t know how
Recent it was but she was talking about uh when her and James had sex while James was dating Rachel and she was in a relationship with Randall and the way she talks about that is so casual MH and embedded in the story of her and James having sex and cheating on Rachel and
Randall was a lot of like justifications right a lot of like well Randall had a wife and and it was like and the way she described James and Rachel was well they were barely like barely in a relationship which Hey listen say what you want but he has stayed true to that
Storyline I mean even off offline on personal conversations with Tom Tom has sworn to me to the point where I believe that he beli believes it mhm that Ariana didn’t care about the cheating that their relationship was really just transactional at that point now again I
Believe Ariana I don’t believe Tom but I believe that Tom believes that justification right and so to hear laa go on her podcast and talk about her cheating as if it was like not a big deal or there was a reason for it and then lay in to Tom and call him a
Groomer I mean again it’s 2024 like these words these words are you’re you’re saying like Tom might have [ __ ] up and he might not be the greatest guy or the greatest friend but like don’t be like throwing Rachel was an adult woman yeah and we s we all saw it in the
Finale yeah like there was no she wasn’t she wasn’t like underage she wasn’t there was no grooming going on also I think that’s giving him way more credit also he’s not that sophisticated it wasn’t this he’s not a mastermind and l l specifically says you isolate you
Groom you’re scary yeah see you can’t say those words that’s a that’s a fullon personal like attack of character in a way that’s not okay and then how is that different than what she and like again it’s just I the more I watch like lala and the Sheena talk about their stuff
Some more it’s just like Tom [ __ ] up but like they how do how do they have a leg to stand on my other question is overall how long is this going to be the entire storyline of Vander pom I I think this this got to be the last season do
You this got to be it right because last season was not great until the end it was fine but it wasn’t as entertaining the ratings weren’t great until the end and then obviously it blew up and became great and it was excellent TV but now we’re just living in the aftermath of
This huge Scandal I’m still enjoying it though I still am too but like for how long I don’t know I don’t know I’m I’m still every week super excited to watch that’s a good point though we’re in like season 10 finale part seven we’re just rewatching an extension of it I was like
There’s no new story line Ariana’s clearly outgrown the show yeah I mean she should not even if the show goes on if there is a a season 12 it makes zero sense for Ariana to be a part of it right she shouldn’t be right I know maybe for financial reasons she wants to
But she doesn’t need to anymore clearly she’s doing well yeah she I mean yeah she’ll have to give something up but like if if she Maneuvers correctly she should be just fine and again if Sheena really has money problems I don’t know what these people are doing with their
Money I don’t it’s right where is it going it’s it’s wild to me but nevertheless she should be able to be to survive without it m and if she wants like that’s the thing fine if you if you don’t want to give the paycheck well then Ariana then you you might have to
Renegotiate some of your boundaries well and that’s the thing is about her boundaries is like saying she won’t film with certain people that are still associating with them it’s kind of telling these people you’re not going to be on the show because they’re going to follow Ariana in my mind so it’s like
Ultimately would they not follow Katie anymore because I I as as people I mean obviously I’m number one Katie fan you know Team ktie all the way I love K but from a television standpoint Ariana is not like is not it this season no and and it’s fine you know she I respect
It’s like you need me you can’t fire me I am the focal point I I want my one big payday but I don’t think as fans given that the way Ariana’s chosen to play the season I I’m not interested in her storyline but imagine if it was like
Okay then you can’t also can’t talk about me or the affair then the show’s over how could she enforce that she couldn’t but I’m saying while she is not the person that people really want to watch her personal story lines she’s still the focus I would I mean I I would
Watch Tom sandal his he’s got a new girlfriend yeah I would watch that I would watch him continue to watch it for I’d probably only watch it for an episode I think I’d get bored real quick with that I don’t we’ll see I mean I’m curious about the valley that’s what
I was going to say same because we had a break from all of them so I feel like now that we had kind of had a break I mean it’s not like I’m yeah and I I find Jack staylor to be a despicable human great TV yeah and and now we we found
Out that the camera Crews picked up back up they they started filming again post Britney and Jax’s Taylor but they were hanging out this weekend with uh Mr Tom Schwartz and a couple other some convention that’s some convention yeah I saw that and I also saw that Jack Jax
Was promoting was he promoting like a view watching party or something with Britney and I was like I’m confused uh we posted a a clip from our conversation last week about J Jax Taylor and Britney and we put that poll about whether the the the break was fake or real real or
Fake and Kristen who love Kristen but and does reply to a lot of my stories uh replied to this one I I’m assuming defending her friends which I get I get and she was like people are horrible I don’t know if she was referring to us
Who put up the poll or maybe the results or the the results were that it was fake yeah which defend your friends but then I saw a clip of Kristen on her podcast acknowledging her screenshotting Tom Sandoval’s diary right and throwing sandal under the bus so it’s like you
Know pop off on sandal Kristen a lot of hypocritical things going on you know criticizing Jax Taylor and and questioning the authenticity of his breakup I don’t know if those are bad people just because you are still friends with JX Taylor and and and Britney and maybe I I just feel like
Kristen out of anyone should not you know we’ve certainly talked a lot about sand ofal uh and and and bled that storyline dry but I feel like Kristen given her past uh with Tom and not being able to let go maybe should not be the one to take a beat to be screenshotting
His journal entries did you respond to her uh I said yeah it’s Jax Taylor give me a break she did not reply back so I was to say you could have pulled a sign and been like name him name name him oh I I know this is a preview from
Next week but when Sheena was uh that that line the backup dance backup dancer line it’s it’s strange even like watching LA and Sheena talk about it but then also seeing Sheena talk about Ariana like that and you’re just like the side eye the smirk and it’s just
Like you guys are supposed to be friends and yet you’re like she’s really come a long way from my backup dancer I mean yeah you guys were all dirt poor really working at this restaurant who who are you going to hire backup dancers you you do favors for your friends also I’m
Willing to bet that Ariana did it as a favor exactly um and even if that let’s let’s assume that Ariana didn’t do it as a favor and let’s assume in in this bizarre reality of sheena’s that she was actually a pop star MH right that she actually had a couple Smash Hits
Right sorry like that let’s let’s assume from this Ultimate Universe that yeah exactly that she was she had her moment right why would you go on a show an episode after you told everyone that you needed to borrow money from Tom sandal uhhuh just to remind people just how far
You’ve Fallen you know what I’m saying like you don’t go on a show and be like well she’s coming a long way from being my backup dancer listen it’s a tale as all as time that you know someone you know used to be the backup dancer for so
And so and now they’re they’re the IT person right that happens all the time and you get surpassed by people you know I couldn’t I couldn’t imagine some of uh my peers who also have podcasts been like Nick’s come a long way from being a guest on our podcast like
Yeah great and now also like you said like they’re supposed to be friends I can’t imagine in the I would never say something like that about one of my friends like don’t understand well there’s an interview resurf resurfacing right now and I believe it’s about Dancing with the Stars but someone asked
Ariana who do you think would be good for the show Ariana goes Sheena so on the other side sheena’s going well you stole my moment you knew I always wanted that and I was like that is not how Dancing with the Stars Works she’s out there just like take and
Maybe that’s where her money’s going she’s taking classes for show she’s not even casted on how many what other competition shows has she been training for that she didn’t get to go on do you think she trained for Special Forces for Special Forces she hired some like like
A SWAT team you know oh my gosh she got some like Master quiz person she’s like training for Jeopardy yeah Tru you know like she’s working with Johnny Bananas train for the challenge yeah maybe that’s where all her cash is going she’s like it’s just not paying off guys I’m doing all the
Work piring $20,000 coaches PayPal yeah I just PayPal’s open why would you why would you remind people that even if you were in a in in truth like a a former pop star to have that line to be like yeah and now I now I’m borrowing money from my co-stars and now
I’m super jealous I’m not on Dancing With the Stars which I loved my time on Dancing With the Stars it was great I would love to go on again you know but it’s like it’s also like not the show that you like aspire to go on yeah that
You’re like oh my God that’s that’s just it for me that’s that’s my moment you know that mirror ball where it’s like famously known as the show where like celebrities like it’s like their last harah you know not this that’s not what it was for me or Zenda no and there
There’s been some exceptions there’s been some exceptions nation is a complete exception because that’s like part of totally but it also is often known as the show where it’s just like J your final paycheck you know um and oh they must need the money but well clearly she does she does a tough
Episode for Shea anyways uh Housewives Everly Hills reunion this episode two was much better than episode one very giving we got to it we got into a lot I I think uh I I do not understand the why is everyone coming after Kyle the way they are I
Don’t I mean I I get it I I understand from a standpoint of Kyle and Mauricio seem to be fine teasing their relationship breakup and and not wanting the other Housewives to talk about it I get that a little bit but some of the other things that they’re giving Kyle
[ __ ] for who do you feel is attacking her the most or maybe not attacking but spotlighting Sutton it seems like okay and that’s read a bit too yeah I kind of feel like Sten kind of has been the whole season where I’m like I feel like
She’s just been ready to talk about Kyle and Mauricio from the jump and she’s like why won’t you talk about it and like as Kyle pointed out she’s like your storyline is a dating coach and a horse and your stop so it’s like I don’t know
I always feel like when a big Scandal drops it kind of lets the other Housewives be a little lazy cuz then they’re like well we don’t really have to focus on that so we could talk about Kyle and Mauricio and that’s fine go go after Kyle and get her to talk about it
But Su doesn’t want to talk about anything no no at all if you want Kyle to talk about uh her breakup you can’t get so offended when Kyle wants to drink break up your drinking you know cuz something’s like how dare you how dare you question like how much drinking I’m
Doing and it’s like well you want me to how I don’t understand it’s funny when it’s like it’s only cute when I say it kind of thing where she’s like oh yeah I carry my Ocean Spray in my purse and it’s cute when she says it but then if
Someone’s like maybe she puts a little vodka in her coffee like it’s like these two things kind of go together yeah and I don’t know why is it always so taboo to bring up how much drinking some people do cuz we all have those friends you know where it’s like every party
They’re pass out on the bus at the end of the party it’s like oh here they go again you know like and you know [ __ ] in bination it’s like the worst kept secret some people’s drinking problems you know and it’s just like we’re not allowed to talk about it because somehow that’s
Deeply offensive but like they’re the one showing up [ __ ] hammered to every [ __ ] event or slurring their words online and it’s just like oh how dare we dress like the fact that they’re always [ __ ] up right it’s like it’s kind of wild to me but I I don’t understand why
We’re going to flip the script and now get mad at Kyle for trying to choose a healthy lifestyle yeah right like how dare she work out and and you know stop drinking and get a tattoo and get a tattoo they seem so offended that Kyle’s like getting her [ __ ] together while
Facing a like what it must be a very difficult breakup right and she’s working out she’s making new friends she’s like doing the things that like on our on our as niik episodes we’re always like invest in yourself you know focus on yourself be a better person you can’t
Control other people so just do your best to be your best self that is literally what Kyle seems to be doing and all the other housewives are like what the [ __ ] how D holy [ __ ] how dare you get your [ __ ] together they’re so deeply offended by Kyle making healthy choices for
Herself it is so [ __ ] wild truly I love Sutton though like I’m team Sutton to the end I mean as a person we love Sutton you know but well I feel like to an extent she’s asking the questions that everybody wants to ask and suton is that like fan favorite where she’s
Carrying the Baton so for me I’m like ask all the questions I I feel like Andy doesn’t ask the questions that everybody wants to ask so he’s hoping that San will chime in for that because he feels can’t because he’s getting paid by Bravo
Like in my mind I mean so is she But ultimately she can say whatever she wants well why can’t it I mean I mean he doesn’t a lot of the time he does sometimes but like he won’t push like even with Erica he was PES with Erica he
Was like like do you have anything to say about the victims when sat down so weird so uncomfortable she’s like no no you did a whole special talking to the victims that you can’t tell us why why did you call I can’t talk maybe it’s a legal
Thing should have pushed more on it I I think he she is selling it as legal thing but like we just we just watched it yeah and I think it didn’t land and she didn’t know how to address it so then she’s painting it I I say this
Every week but like I I I don’t want to criticize Erica because I feel like I have some loyalty to her because I met her on Dancing With the Stars and she was I thought just lovely Delight but she’s so [ __ ] Cy about this whole [ __ ] case and it just comes across is
Kind of scandalous and [ __ ] up and I it’s just like it is really hard to get on board with you Erica like she’s the opposite of Lindsay hubard she’s like we don’t talk about it period yeah yeah yeah yeah she’s not even like I use the wrong
Words she’s just like no no and that’s all I’m going to say on that we’re just like like you’re looking worse you’re looking worse because you already said more she look so guilty yeah or again you did a whole special talking to these victims you can’t tell me one reason why
Is she so offended by G gcel questioning Tom’s like it was well Crystal or garcel that you know that side of the aisles so to speak there’s it’s definitely Crystal garcel and Sutton like versus ver the other side like those three are united front those three are
Like truly friends in real life and they [ __ ] hate D [ __ ] hate her carcel hates hates her but why is why it’s like Tom gerardi who is known to have lied to According to Erica lied to Erica right right and then the whole world and all of his clients and Erica seems offended
That Tom might be lying about his diagnosis right of dementia when you don’t think that Tom a lawyer who must know the legal system like you know inside and out thought to himself he’s going to lean into his age and Fain a false diagnosis so that maybe he won’t
Be able to be held accountable and then see she’s deeply offended by that that doesn’t track why are you in any way defending Tom Erica I almost feel like it’s like cuz if they figure out that he is mentally aware or stable or whatever Erica might feel like that invalidates
Her case or everything she’s been fighting for sure and then on the flip side Crystal her father suffered with dementia of course so like of course she’s going to question it yeah and she’s making valid points it’s like this is four years ago yeah his his diagnosis
Hasn’t seemed to progressed why is he owed to why is he allowed to do this if if he really has sad diagnosis again and and and we’re talking about a lawyer who knows how to work the legal system he was also like a top lawyer too like not
Not like a random yeah like we’re talking like number like up there in his field so it’s like he knows the ins for someone who claims to have done nothing wrong she sure seems like she is trying to maneuver uh around a lot of potential landmines that she the her her like her
Hand was stuck in the cookie jar for sure um there was also that the scene from Last season remember when Erica was explaining the accident and it’s like it was like a viral moment and she’s like Tom rolled his car and then hit his head
Fell off the cliff and then did this and then did that step accident they were like wait what happened he huh like so like it’s like the adding up of it cuz one second it was like no I don’t talk to Tom at all then it’s Tom calls every
Day so I also feel like it’s like she’s just gotten to a point where it’s like I can’t say anything further because it’s it’s all recorded yeah like it’s all on film so it’s just like she says Tom calls every day now but doesn’t realize that he’s not practicing law but
Is also like in and out of a courtroom every day so it’s just like but he doesn’t look any worse I don’t know it’s it’s a mess can we talk about Sutton’s uh $3.6 million annual after taxes I love how she thre out after taxes 300,000 per month after tax after tax so
That’s that’s $3.6 million who is her ex-husband well 300 time 12 oh yeah you’re sorry yeah yeah y’all math uh that’s crazy absurd and well now we understand why she has a hard time you know why he has so much control over her yeah cuz I’m sure he must you know
Like granted I’m he he must every time he doesn’t get his way threaten to take her to court to reduce that well right I think there’s also a clause cuz it’s obviously her settlement uh that she can’t get remarried obviously else the the payments stop and so I think that’s
Also part of why the dating coach was such a big thing like as if it’s like I’m not intentionally not trying to find somebody but I don’t know why my cat sweaters and weird conversation is just not working out for me like I think it’s
Her like Al like she’s like I will I’m trying to date I’m trying to move on I hate getting these payments her her ex asking her to move to London with him is insane is it though I think so for $3.6 million a year well you could just wire
That that doesn’t have to be like do like right next to you no I don’t know he’s giving her that’s so much money he’s giv her at least a half a million dollars a month it’s just wild so much money but her life is in La
So it’s like no her life is her ex-husband yeah her she wouldn’t have a life Ian she would it be very different he did make his money with her so they made the money together so I will say she was a part of that how did he make
His money uh I think he’s like an investor stock broker you mean like they were married when you got he was he didn’t have money when they married and they made the money together so she was like supporting him throughout that gotcha either way I’m a so I defend
Going to for I mean maybe I’m like biased get your money I mean like I would [ __ ] I would who’s say no one would say no to it but it just it is a fascinating dilemma because yeah it is the least she could do I guess I know you you guys are
Younger and you’re all going to be rich someday but like whatever amount of money you have when you start making more money they really like you do spend more money and you immediately just get used to like as your life elevates you you just find ways to spend more money
So Sutton has carved out a very specific life that is that it would be very hard to give up which again I this is where I empathize with Erica like you know to have your life ripped from you and have to go back to whatever life that you
Used to have is humbling and difficult for a lot of people some people make some very terrible choices when face that dilemma you know like you know when you lose the life that you had and you have to go back to a life that you had 15 20 years ago NOP some people
Literally can’t do it right and uh so I empathize with the The Dilemma that Sutton is in to us an extent because you know I mean she now she can certainly buy whatever solution to her problems that she has yes I want to know what the original like numbers are because
Usually a settlement means that there is negotiations like did we start off at 500 and then go I guess I’ll be okay with 3 300 like how did we get to the number 300 just stab in the dark well she also said she had a team that I
Forgot what it’s called but a team that like analyzes all the assets and then figures out those numbers oh jeez Louise so I mean it paid off in her favorite amen yeah good for her I’ll say yeah I will say anarie was interesting CU she tackled onto that conversation well in
The sense that she said like she made a comment where she’s like well the world that I’m in like we don’t talk about money but the world that I’m in that is a yeah that’s she did make a good point there I mean I like I just I don’t think
There’s much of any upside to talking about your money no I know I think I think transparency about money is is good for who I don’t know just in in the workplace yeah I think what degree I mean I I just think you put a Target on
Your back here we are and here we are talking Sutton’s come out she’s like I make this yeah we’re having fun with it but like you know we’re indirectly judging Sutton and now we have these expectations of what you know we think her life should or shouldn’t be and we
Have a la less empathy for her now than we did before you know when you brag about your money it just puts a a spotlight on you that you know it’s just like your ego loves it but then I just don’t what’s the upside other than
Putting a Target on your back I feel like bragging about it is definitely different and that’s what she’s I mean she yes absolutely she was but I think transparency in general I I know like for me before 5 years ago in in the workplace like as a journalist none of
The other reporter none of us would talk about what we were getting paid because it’s a competition now like the new journalists that come up I’m like if you want to talk to me about it I’ll be honest with you here’s what I think you deserve here’s what I’m making I’m I’m
You know been in this five years longer I’m open about it oh I think that’s great okay so that’s the transparency that I’m talking about think especially for women if I’m going to go online and brag about when you’re making some coin and you have some disposable income and
You’re bragging about your disposable income that’s I think it’s it’s a it’s a risk no for her it does give us context though which is nice right I want to know as a viewer I love it viewer I want to know how much each one of them has in
Their bank account okay I want to know that I want to yeah I want to know how Shaina lost all her money like the same thing like I feel like all of that same kind of conversation well I took amory’s comment as like I’m in a different world
As the rest of the woman right which was interesting which is what poor yeah or like comparison I think she’s trying to say like she is a rich wealthy as she said person outside of the show is what she’s trying to imply but I was kind of
She said she has a lot of wealthy friends which that’s how I took it and I was like honey this is the wrong we from where how from the world I come from we don’t talk about things like that you’re sitting in a room full of wealthy women
I don’t know genuinely that’s the very comment but Kathy Hilton’s about to walk out relax yeah po what a like what what an iconic moment where Kathy’s getting her face painted and that’s where she decides to talk the most [ __ ] about her sister she goes I probably shouldn’t say
This but I did and I said while watching it to Natalie I’m like why would they air this this way and now he reminded me well that’s when she said it I like oh yeah I guess you’re right so like Cathy’s like Queen of a hot mic moment
Or like an off camera moment so it’s like the that it doesn’t surprise me at all that she’s like this time they had the cameras yeah do you think that this is a preview of her being on next season I do I think they’re teasing Kathy and what’s the other sister’s name
Kim returning would be awesome returns that be amazing they said Teddy’s name like five times already so I like she might be returning for whatever re awesome Denise has been mentioned so I think she’s returning back I think there a lot of friends would be really great
We get rid of hopefully Anna Marie but it doesn’t seem like it I why do you keep saying that I think just cuz she’s like doing her press tour with the rest of the woman fact that she’s even in the reunion the whole time like and like as
I said there’s the friends of will come out for a segment during the second uh reunion and walk back off she has been out there she got her her diamond from first appearance it’s really hard for me to believe that they’re going to kick her off they’re really trying and then they
Did the whole like background story as to why she behaved the way that she did so it’s giving us empathy for her and her current situation and hopefully we’ll see her shine her next season that’s if she couldn’t shine this season how is she going to shine on a season
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You guys my jaw dropped like I was just like it’s wild that we that like that world we’re watching Jimmy and Chelsea where Jimmy has the respect for Chelsea to be like hey I can’t see us getting married and Jimmy just seems like oh
What do you want from me what can I do and then a you let ad get all the way up there in a dress walk down there your families are sitting there bro was M milking it to the end so rude so rude even like his uh vocal pauses like his
Almost you know like his you know when he was producing himself yes 100% I was like is this man a producer who’s telling him to pause like this this is insane yeah and then you know when she’s talking he affirmed every word she said MH and you look so
Good babe you’re just oh you’re so oh my God I’m so happy I mean the the salesmanship yeah it was gross I mean I would say his parents ended up coming out almost as like the MVPs I thought that it was very impressive that his mom was you don’t usually see parents have
An honest conversation like that on camera and I give them a lot of credit for allowing that to be on camera well I don’t know if Dad had much of a choice that’s true yeah I don’t know if Dad so I give her a lot of bring UPA I really
Honestly would to check in with clay and the fam yeah because I’d be willing to bet that in that moment that we got to see like I don’t think his dad had any clue what had been discussed all season long yeah probably right do you think
Clay was like hey by the way man I’ve been talking a lot about pops it’s not great and it’s not great uh I basically taken all of my bad behavior and completely blamed you for it uh which might be a valid excuse you know you know sure I can’t I’d say it’s
A valid excuse that’s to the St you can’t except that when you are self-aware enough to know you know it’s like you know don’t go to the altar that’s what I’m saying but like as an adult just in general like when you start saying well this happened to me
This was my trauma I had to experience X Y or Z great to recognize and it does take some time to recognize and reflect on what you’ve had to experience but I kind of feel like in that moment and again I’m this is I say this is one
Guy’s opinion not a therapy or any type of professional mental health expert of any kind but I feel like on a personal level you cease to be able to use that then as an excuse for your own behavior because now you’re at least acknowledging is that a the behavior you
Have is bad and B that you know where it came from so well maybe you still have work to do the work needs to be done and until said work is done then you shouldn’t be doing the things that cause you to be a liability right you know
Like maybe being a real T show where a wedding is weeks away yeah um so it’s kind of like yeah great you know it’s your dad this and your dad that but again you’re self-aware enough clay to know and now it just sounds like an excuse I’m afraid that it’s going to
Affect ad poorly in the long run because she was like so red flags with him in the beginning because he had said like I’m not going to do this unless you tell me what you look like or whatever he the creepy thing he said in the pods that
She ended up working past and getting past with him but like every red flag she had ended up being like kind of true oh yeah when she had a powerful line where she said I feel like a sacrifice you learned so much about yourself like
You use me to do it and she’s like so I was just a pawn or a stepping stone do you think he learned so much about himself yeah I don’t think so no I thought maybe until well he kept saying he didn’t in defense to Clay I think
He really like thought they were going to date afterwards that’s Insanity to me why you bring the altar if if he had said it a couple days before or two days before and was like listen I want to date you I’m in love with you whatever
It is I’ve been saying to you but I just can’t I’m not ready to get married maybe he kind of did though they had a conversation where he said that he wasn’t ready he was worried about you know the cheating and AD said okay I get
That but I’m here to get married and I am not interested in dating after this but don’t go to the altar right then don’t go to the altar right this isn’t the way that you’re going to like have another conversation also I kept so annoyed with him kept being like I’m
Worried about the cheating like as if he would be just forced to cheat genetic to yeah like it’s a genetic disorder like I get like okay you’re tempted easier than other people sure that’s a thing but like you also are an adult who has self-control don’t cheat if you don’t
Want to cheat you know we all you know this like it’s like you know when you when we talk about our parents bad behavior you know it goes one of two ways right it’s like sometimes if People’s parents have a drinking problem some of them sadly end up having a drinking problem of
Themselves or sometimes it’s like I never [ __ ] touch that [ __ ] right or I don’t smoke because my my parents both had lung cancer or whatever sometimes you learn from your parents bad behavior correct they’re there’re is an example of what you don’t want to be so maybe you don’t put yourself in those
Situations that you would be tempted and Clay is talking about idea he Clay is showing the type of self-awareness that would suggest I don’t want to be like my father right you know and yet using his father’s behavior is an excuse not to actually get married to ad well the
Internet is now speculating that he knew like him and his family knew that he wasn’t going to say yes or I do because if you look at their outfits they’re not put together as much like his sister’s wearing address the color of your pants but like a neon pink hair clay Clay’s
Brother showed up in a tank top that’s the thing so yeah yeah full tank top like so people are thinking that he G gave them a warning like look we’re not going to actually get married yeah yeah cuz like imagine like think producers is new of course what why would he I wonder
What they offered him they were like if you go to the altar yeah to me it’s just like it’s there’s no way he comes out looking good in that what’s the benefit for him to go all the way to the altar if he knew he was going to say no uh my
Guess is it went the conversation went something like and the truth is about reality TV you never really know here’s where producers of any show kind of uh get away with it and what sucks is that they’re right when they say it but not but to the detriment to the person
They’re saying it to perfect example we already referenced Ari right so I don’t know this to be a fact but from my own experience I’m assuming when Ari went to the producers and said hey I’m I’ve changed my mind I want to be with Lauren
I don’t want to be with Becca that Ari did not have to put that on camera the key he didn’t have to do that right you know and I I’m certain I’m without knowing for certain and the same same thing that happened on on Caitlyn’s season of the bat shet and this actually
Didn’t really affect her negatively and it affected me positively is that like you have to give that person your their moment so to speak I felt like a fool when I went all as far as I did on Caitlyn season but her bringing me as
Far as she did gave me arguably my best moment on on that show MH and AD who is the star of the of this episode ad why because Clay did what he did to her Becca kufrin ended up being The Bachelorette why because Ari was willing
To give Becca her moment and fall on the sword I think Ari doesn’t get enough credit for what he did because I honestly think Ari knew that he was going to get some punches and he it was almost like a gift to Becca and people
Can say what they want it’s like oh we don’t need to thank Ari you know that was but like he didn’t need to do that and had Ari just broke up with Becca not on camera and just been like hey we just realized I just realized that you know
Beck and I we just weren’t compatible and I couldn’t stop thinking about Lauren so like and all we saw was AFR of Ari telling us the story and then Becca coming out and telling us the story like he would have got a little bit of heat
But like nothing to the degree that he got by agreeing to film it but him agreeing to film it made Becca kufrin the star that she is and so so do you think he took sorry we’re going off the going off a little bit do you think he
Was like had to be convinced I don’t know I don’t if there was but I I I do think that it’s possible that almost clay uh did that for ad was told like this is going to make ad look really good if that did happen it wouldn’t have
Been a lie it’s it’s a it’s a fact of course of course the best moment anyone ever has on reality TV is when they’re broken up with at least on like love shows like the bachor or or Love is Blind which most people go on those shows you have to remind them because
They feel embarrassed they don’t want that to happen but your most vulnerable moment is your best moment and most of these people aren’t actors and aren’t capable of being that that being fake and vulnerable and so you have to have some of some scene like this where
Anyone in your shoes would be devastated and then anytime you show Poise like ad did and just empowerment like ad did you’re a [ __ ] rock star so like Clay did put it you know he gave her a [ __ ] softball down the middle and AD hit it out of the park but without clay
Doing what he did ad never has that moment and I’m not saying we need to praise clay for it but it is just a a little BTS of reality TV that I think sometimes like critic size clay and I don’t think the internet is losing their
Mind on Clay like they did like Ari no but sometimes a a little just a perspective is is in order I mean cuz we talked about this before but like the Deep de moment that was like her moment that was her moment yeah after she got
Screwed over and I do think Shane what’s his name Shake or whatever he was just a creepy weird little guy I don’t think he deserves any credit but he gave her that moment you know and like she doesn’t get that moment without you know you like I
Always say you don’t have a good hero without a good villain right you know and I will always say Luke Parker from Hannah Brown season will never get the credit he deserves because that man was an amazing villain great villain uh and it made Hannah Brown Tyler Cameron Pete
Weber and everyone else in that show just pop because he was so fuing easy to hate for sure yeah I forgot about him excellent TV excellent Jimmy Chelsea uh break up finally he actually thought they were going to date it seemed like he was like I love you to death I know
Right now they’ve been together they’ve been spotted together I that’s all for uh I think that’s all for clout yeah but for him be like him to be like oh I love you to death I want to date you I just don’t want to marry and I’m like I think
There’s no way he actually wanted to date her I I think he just didn’t want to be an [ __ ] 100% yeah yeah yeah I don’t know he’s kind of giving me stockhom syndrome I’m like I think they’re dating and I think he was like uh Maybe not maybe not and now that it’s
Like oh I could lose you like let’s give this a Shot For Real uh I don’t know I think it’s too much of a coincidence you’re seeing stuff now think about it they filmed this over a year ago and these people have all been living in the
Same city for the past year and now all of a sudden they’re being caught in the wild together but weren’t caught in the wild together prior to this uh looking for it we didn’t know who they were that might true they could have been dating this entire time but I
Think what’s more likely is that these are two people who did have this craziest experience together and despite them not getting married like they probably are still actual friends and there are few people in this world who can relate to this crazy experience that they all experience so like they just
Are actual friends because it’s like all right you know clearly we’re not married we’re not going to we’re you know a couple months went by the tension wore off the feelings and they were just like yeah what this is actually it’s cool to be friends with you it’s cool to be able
To talk about this experience with you and I and I’m almost certain that’s what it is and that that’s nothing more are you saying that uh Chelsea has now become the friend that needs to be introduced to the next girl that he slept with in the past no you’re right
Chelsea is now CH Chelsea is probably part of the the is part of that she probably besties with him well I am excited again we do have ad on this episode of going deeper so uh we we do get to ask her about what she thought
Leading up to it her feelings about clay Clay’s family’s attire we even get into uh if there is anything after post um you know what like because it’s always interesting because like there is obviously a connection between these two and even though like clay doesn’t want to get married it is definitely a
Possibility for these two people to be like sure you know this is crazy but let’s try let’s try so we get you know we get all of it with ad so certainly an episode you will not want to miss and then Jeremy boy the bad press keeps coming out about
Him what is that the recent the most recent bad press that taste of reality.com that he pulled a gun on his exf ex-girlfriend made a three or four part series on Tik Tok and continuing she’s on four part she’s reaing it yeah oh my gosh is it going to be a 50 parter
The like the thing too cuz it’s like obviously with all the stuff that’s come out with people on Tik Tok and you’re trying to take everything objectively the way that she’s talking about their past he displays the same behavior like on with him and Laura’s fight how it was
Like that I don’t talk to her like uh storming around the house but not wanting to communicate and so it’s like her whole story is that they were getting into a fight and he was like following her around the house and at one point um allegedly pulls a uh a gun
On her and yeah her name is is Katrina yeah and she says that they she was at a work event or something and he like even popped in on it and then they went home and he was acting upset and then he left the room at one point and then came back
In and allegedly he had a gun pointed at her and she thought that he was going to shoot her right then and there but then he pulled and this is all alleged he put pulled the gun down and she ran out called the cops is there a police report
There has to be right the cops came they searched his home and asked him if he had any tactical or military training experience and if he’s drug deal because the guns were like strategically placed around the house yeah oh that’s alarming yeah yeah so if we thought that the a
Police report yeah she was afraid of the Hawaiian shirt shirt on the jet ski was an issue think again you said something earlier this season where you’re like you think Jeremy is like not dangerous but use a specific word well Laura said that his house looked like it was that
Of a serial killer that’s what it was like if there’s anyone who could potentially yeah it be Jeremy he’s very there were some red Flags there but I think Laura handled it like a champ mhm at least she’s out of it you know y he gave Laura that moment yeah so yeah I’m
Out but then it looks like for looks like for the reunion she’s zooming in though she’s zooming in yeah she had a work thing in Spain I do feel like it sounds like we do get a lot of uh you even some of these uh B characters on
The show uh some yeah we got the guy with the mullet Trevor like like some of these be like uh ones who didn’t find love Yeah but have been an immersed in Scandal it sounds like we get some answers yeah cuz some a lot there was a lot of relationships pre-show sounds
Like I usually interview uh the showrunner and Creator before the season and this season I waited and I figured I’d wait till after I see the reunion because I think I’m G to have a lot of questions so I assume I will be asking a lot about I ask every time but about
Kind of just what they look into because it’s strange to me that people can still do this where they go on and have relationships at home well the then think thinking about background checks I’m usually like I I I usually defend the show mhm um this Jeremy alleged
Story like there again if there’s a police report that’s a like when they are doing black checks like that’s what they’re doing they’re doing is there a police report you know psych checks they’re do psych checks I mean like a credit score might tell something I
Don’t I don’t know if they actually do a credit score but those are like things they could easily do right right it’s like it seems like a lot of fans when they when they hear background checks are expecting these shows to do like these incredible internet deep Dives on
Not only the people they cast but all the people they don’t cast so it’s not like they’re doing background checks on the 30 people they have on the show it would have to be in the hundreds of people that they’re considering and like also you don’t know what you don’t know
How can they find a photo on the internet that maybe someone else took that you didn’t tag you know maybe in a few years where when AI takes off it might be easier but nowadays that’s not that no you know it’s not that easy to do and they can’t account for every
Person they ever dated ever mhm absolutely not how can you do a background you know and that’s where these these this all this tea is coming from that being said if there was an actual priest Poli report then it’s it doesn’t how how does he end up on the
Show right I thought about that too because I was like I I obviously want like this woman seems believable but I’m hesitant to believe it because like wouldn’t casting have seen a police they would yes the police report would be something they would flag immediately I
I’m always skeptical of the ex’s of real TV stars who come on I it’s usually a lot of clout chasing I think there is even I think we talked about this love is blind Minneapolis the the cast list has been leaked and like everyone in Minneapolis is like losing their [ __ ]
Mind because you know Midwest City it’s like holy [ __ ] they’re coming to our town and like the castless got released and then there’s X’s of these potential cast members coming out making these accusations about some of these guys and in the comments there is one comment one of the girls
He’s talking about one of the guys I don’t even know who the person they’re talking about I just I’ve been made aware of the comments in the comments and I believe you can still find it um it’s out there is that her saying I hope the bachelor producers see this so they
Cast me on the show like her calling out her own clout chasing you know it’s just like she probably should have waited for That season to air youe to become believable right and that’s and that’s what sucks is because then if this woman is telling the truth which who knows
It’s like people are going to discredit her because they’re like oh she’s Cloud chasing It’s like because there are so many people who are doing it strictly just to have their 15 minutes it discredits the ones who are victims of these people but the big question is is
There a police report because something like this yeah if they called the cops there would have to be and if there is a police report how do they end up on the show because when they do background checks I can assure you they run a
Police that would show up I will do a deep dve after this please I mean she sat there and was like I’m not a content creator I didn’t come on here to you know but I feel like I need to share my story trigger warning XYZ and then 1
Part Ser say but she’s also on a four-part series so click and follow and also here’s a link to my merch stringing fit te CAA are you listening yeah exactly CA signed what’s like I don’t I’m not here to be a star but like if I happen to be one um
Here’s my story yeah here’s my story but yeah well yeah jery Jeremy jerem time I loved this episode of The Bachelor tell me more it was like it was fantasy sweets um I don’t know I just think we got to see other sides of Joey uh and I
Know this is going to be like a weird take but I liked seeing like The Bachelor have to do a real life uh scenario where it’s like you’re at the hospital taking care like showing like what it would be like to be in an actual relationship and not this like super
Produced date but yeah no I thought Joey was really sweet I think they leaned in though they from her job being broken no to her being she she couldn’t speak at first and then she left the hospital and she was completely fine completely fine wait what I mean she’s a relatable when
He was like are you okay and she’s like I’m fine I’m fine I know I felt that too I was like oh this is every girl this is every girl I mean so me I don’t doubt that like she really like I think she was really hurt when it happened um and
And probably probably wasn’t a lot of pain yeah but a a pain that subsided without any significant injury probably didn’t need to go to the hosp 5 minutes later she’s like you know what honestly I’m okay they could have maybe used an ice pack in an
Advil why is it that getting hurt is so embarrassing right why do we why are we ashamed of this I don’t know like I fall and I’m like I’m so I’m sorry you’re apologizing you almost apologized so that’s how I feel sorry like to the sidewalk so
Sorry um no I also think that there was like a little of anxiety too where I’m just like if I were her I’d be like no no no I don’t need to go to the hospital this date is not over I am having my
Full like I feel like there’s a bit of a fear that like if something goes wrong or she’s diagnosed needs uh medical attention the rose yeah she’s such a people pleaser which is like to me so relatable but also like it makes me happy that he kept he kept pushing like
No it’s fine if you’re not okay like it’s not a big deal we’re good well and Joey gave us just a little I mean we know so little almost nothing about Joey’s past or dating history or how he feels about relationships or what it means to be a partner and we don’t know
Anything mhm but we got a little bit of a taste about an alleged past relationship like you know we don’t even know if it was a girlfriend a situationship like a Summer Fling but at really close to the chest at some point he interacted with a
Person who I guess didn’t make him feel always the best I would love to know more uh but we did get a little bit of little just a little bit of context yeah tiny bit I I’ve been on the Kelsey train all season uh I called it from the start
Last week I was a little on the fence I was starting to doubt myself but to me it is so obvious this episode that Kelsey’s his girl the make out on the counter the morning of is what sold me more than anything oh even before that
That dead giveaway was first of all it started you know they had a little like moment with you know the the the three women left a bit of a montage of like Joey’s thoughts about them and vice versa and Joey goes about Rachel it’s like I’m just like she brings out a
Different side of me I don’t know what that is but but it’s different like he can’t he’s just making up [ __ ] and I get it because he probably has literally no connection with her whatsoever and I’m sure Rachel’s a lovely wonderful person it’s just just not there but he can’t
Even he can barely AR he can barely even make up a line and then when he’s talking about Kelsey he is talking about how Kelsey makes him feel you know and it’s meaningful and when he is sitting down with her he is he cares deeply
About what she says he is locked in he is invested and if that wasn’t the giveaway or the make out of the next day the it was the uh the What’s The Saying D protest too much protest too much the the the show itself trying to misdirect
The [ __ ] out of us totally I mean so you have you have the three golden ladies come on you have Susan Susan lesli and Sandra Leslie being the runner up from last season the Brokenhearted person who comes in to basically just [ __ ] with Kelsey’s brain be like you
Might think it’s you it’s not you it’s not you and and I don’t even think she was I think she was just straight up yeah that was his good producing by the bers be like yeah just go tell her how you think tell what you think just tell
How you feel I mean [ __ ] up who knows who knows what’s still heartbroken yeah yeah and lesie is not in the no she has no idea what’s happening she she’s there to talk to Kelsey she probably knows absolutely nothing about what’s going on and so she is just being her authentic
Self but because she’s a couple months removed from being devastated by Gary I mean I if as a two-time runner up if I were the person going in in in that moment where someone’s like yeah I know we have a great connection I would have been like just pump the brakes because
Good luck you know you can think it’s you and I can promise you you can be wrong you guys sound like um bridesmaids when Kristen wigs like oh you guys are in love that will fate I love movie truly so true but I just don’t think it’s a coincidence that
Leslie is that person and who knows like maybe Joey hasn’t decided yet but like you know I’m pretty sure Joy’s knows who he’s picking at this point right um I really hated the the note situation I thought I understand it’s a redirect and its prod it’s production and all that I
Just felt like it was so unnecessary like the fantasy sweet dates are always exciting enough as it is dramatic enough as it is we don’t need I don’t need this like we need need to talk who no one actually writes in know that just says
We need to talk does that and I really feel for Kelsey because there’s no way that was like her call of course not and that seems like such I you know I’m really you know we’re recording this before the episode drops but it wouldn’t shock me if Kelsey catches some heat
Online about like why the [ __ ] would you write a message like that and [ __ ] with Joey yeah clearly he’s crying in the he’s already crying after just the note cuz he’s so nervous about what it is sure because like his he feels like oh Kelsey’s going to break up with me all
That person if you get a text that says we need to talk I immediately have a panic attack hey don’t get mad right can I tell you something all those like things that people say to you where you’re like immedate panic attack I to tell you we have to talk after we need
To talk right now it’s more alarming than just saying what it is I get those from my mom all the time where she’ll just text me in the midd they she be like don’t worry but can you call me later like what F Jesus Christ call her now canceling all my meetings we’re
Talking right now she like oh I just want to talk to you about this like you have some mail at my house I’m like are you kidding me I thought someone died contact contact don’t do that I really I really feel for Kelsey because I I I
Would suspect the internet is going to give her a little heat in moment they’re going to probably like criticize her for like whining when she should be the one who’s getting all the attention and all these like packages where it’s you know Kelsey being like I’m really struggling
Here like they have footage on all of these women saying the exact same thing because like it’s super weird to go to a fantasy suite and like even though you know how the show works like you know going in that this is going to happen
And then you do it and then you’re just like you know that you’re sitting and been like the the person I was with and no matter what happens whether they are intimate or not you know that that person who you want to get engage to who
You love is in bed with someone else that they is spending a night with someone else even if you’re confident in your relationship you know you’ve all heard too many stories of past leads like getting it on with multiple people I I will say as someone who’s in
Like a new relationship for the first time in 10 years going in watching this was the first time watching the fantasy suites that I was like oh my gosh this is torture like I feel so bad usually I’ve watched every season and I’m always like yeah this sucks like this is really
Hard they know what they’re signing up for that kind of thought I was literally like my stomach hurts for I don’t understand you remember have you seen this is a call back but the movie Indecent Proposal with uh de Moore and uh Robert Redford and um Woody harelson
Oh okay I haven’t seen it in so long maybe I’m thinking of a different movie and Robert Redford plays this Rich billionaire and and demore and Woody Harrelson’s characters they’re poor they go to Vegas they’re spending their last money trying to make it big Robert Redford like sees to be more and offers
Them a million dollars to have one night with his wife and like it happens and like he’s just like beside himself because he knows what’s happening and that’s what it’s [ __ ] like it’s [ __ ] crazy I remember vividly those nights and not like it it is [ __ ] it’s psychological torture yeah I
Literally like I was like going to throw up I was like I can’t watch this like I immediately am like putting myself in that position like no this is the worst thing I could do that well and I also couldn’t imagine like watching it as like the person being Chosen and then
It’s like well that kiss looked really real like you know what I mean when him and Daisy are making out like if I were Kelsey or if I were Rachel and I’m like oh so that’s what your your your one-on-one was like you know what I mean
I feel like in your head you’d be telling your like he’s not that into them like it’s me or something like that they don’t good chemistry yeah and hearing him say I’m falling in love with you to like two girls he was saying the same exact thing it made me I was like
And I understand I get it to a point but the way he was saying like like I can’t I had I have to wait to say it till the right time you’re repeating this you already said this once like oh it’s so tough being his Sho I can’t imagine I can’t
Imagine I mean I’ve gone back and forth last week I was leaning towards uh Daisy this episode I I’m convinced it’s Kelsey but I don’t know maybe who knows I just the M they I think they leaned in in the misdirect almost too hard right I agree
With you I like Kelsey and him have like read very healthy and compatible so I said I was like the only reason why I’m agreeing with you now is because I picked up my phone to like look at it and that’s when I’m like uh you guys
Must be the choice right uh him and Daisy I felt like we very like passionate which I was like it’s also I feel like that’s always is kind of an indicator that maybe that’s not it yeah I was like jeez that’s a choice should I come back
Later like I shouldn’t be watching this like but that to me I’m like anytime I see them like be like overly focused on the passionate like version of it I’m like it’s not the one it’s like sexual chemistry so we’re really going to exploit that but like we’re that’s not
Going to be the person that he chooses and then yeah like Rachel’s giving giving friend Vibes oh yeah you know sweetheart but yeah not but I the only thing I don’t get about the Rachel making top three is that just there I can think of at least three or four
Other women from this season he seemed at least from what we saw had a better connection with and it’s just like why didn’t they show I don’t I just I think it’s like their Hawaiian experience like I’ve said this before but when he before he met Rachel’s family he was like
There’s something there I don’t know what it is like we’ve come we have we share an experience being in Hawaii so feel like it’s like a curiosity that he’s like we’ve shared a life I think you’re I think you’re right Justin you reminded me like what it is
To be the Bachelor and how much you appreciate like just being able to have conversations with with anyone there because most of the ladies that you’re there are just so nervous and they’re trying so hard to make a connection Rachel does seem someone who’s like really comfortable with who she is she
Has this natural kind of confidence you know just a a a calming she she seems calm yeah and so with that Hawaiian connection wouldn’t shock me that joeyy just like it was as easy to be on dates with her not because he thought he was
Going to fall in love with her but but like all the other women he didn’t have connections with it’s just it’s painful it’s a comfort level with her it’s so painful to try to pretend to like someone while they’re just being Ultra aggressive they probably had a lot to
Talk about and there’s nothing better on being on that show than having something to talk about with any of these women because you don’t want to be making out with a bunch of people you’re not interested in and usually what happens is when there’s awkward pauses they just
Grab your face and start making out with you and it sucks and so Rachel that makes a lot of sense so that’s that’s it yeah automatic connection Comfort yeah that that lot of sense huh the internet wants Kelsey’s dad to be the golden Bach I saw that I
Mean I wouldn’t be I wouldn’t be against that no I loved him I just want to throw it out there uh Kelsey if you do listen to this show my soon to be mother-in-law thinks your dad’s hot oh very she finds him very attractive is she single she is
W she is out here dating in La she’s stunning and amazing I’m obsessed with this um she’s amazing yeah good luck dating in La I know well she’s going back to Alabama soon um but she’s she she went on a date yeah yesterday morning yeah she had a coffee date in
The morning I love that and he’s in New Or New Orleans look that’s he’s in New Orleans not too far from Alabama that’s not far that’s not far so long I’m doing long distance long distance is a thing I’m being serious Kelsey I feel like we should coordinate a zoom date with your
Dad and my mother-in-law let’s do it let’s do it but only if Nick can be on the zo and like moderating no no no no no no no but also but also record it so we also let’s record it so we can like make a CH out
Of it you know I I’m serious Kelsey let’s make it happen check out n’s mom she’s a total babe yeah I think yeah I love that also I found out that Joey was a Packer fan so any criticism ever sent his way I feel bad back I regret it
Although I’ve not I’ve been pretty good to Joey do you know Jo have you met Joey you know him no every time I’ve met him he’s been such a delight and I was at the golden bachelor wedding and he we chatted there and he was like in the
Best mood ever and but I haven’t read I don’t read any spoilers but it’s so interesting because I like I can always like try to I try to guess with how their mood is when I’m talking about the upcoming season like obviously he with someone cuz I guess they have been sing
It is like maybe he could be alone which usually when that’s the case it’s again you know the vibe I got at Golden bachelor wedding which has been obviously a couple months now um was that he’s not with anybody oh wow but I don’t know that could yeah it wasn’t
Like he was like hitting on anybody but I’m just saying like that was a single man no no no this is a new relationship by the way I’m dating Joey is actually what I was saying so I start dating um no I no I just got a vibe that he didn’t
Get like the ending he was hoping for what gave wow well you’ll have to see because I’m going to run an interview on variety.com okay all right to we all gasp when is that coming out it’s coming out soon I don’t I didn’t want to do it
Honestly too early because I didn’t want it to be like spoilery if he didn’t if he does if he doesn’t I don’t know we’re all like should we break up with our boyfriends I know right he’s such a baby he’s such a young boy they have uh they
Have been teasing a crazy ending I know I’m very oh that is possible oh man I don’t know there were a lot of single people at that wedding so he could have found somebody at that wedding to be honest I was looking around the room thinking like I wish I could see what
The hotel rooms looked like tonight cuz it’s got to be it’s going to be a real fun night for if Joey is not with someone my my greatest wish for Joey that he does not get into another Bachelor relationship Paradise or something yeah it’s uh and again nothing
Against all the wonderful people it’s just yeah know he will it’s just how he can’t he he’s too much of a star relative to the the power Dynamic is just not where it would need to be right you know he would be better off dating either another celebrity outside of uh Bachelor
World or just a normie yeah who knows how to be around celebrities hard to find so like a journalist is what you’re saying a journalist yeah a hair like a stylist right someone who has a lot of experience with being around town a publicist not a publicist let’s not
Let’s not say all publicist he’s like not a publicist I I love my publicist but uh but then there’s there’s the Ries of the world cuz there’s a lot of publicists got into publicity because they very much like being around celebrities see but I think
A in my experience a lot of them don’t care at all about that a good one so I think it’s good yeah so I think there’s both we know both yeah usually the bad ones find their way to you have to go through the bad ones before you get to
The good ones this is true mhm you have to fire a couple bad ones uh before you realize what a bad one is especially if you’re on a reality show there’s some there’s some rough ones out there yeah you get a lot of bad advice if you’re a
Reality TV star a good anything is referral only good call yeah sorry truly yeah you got to know a guy to get my number but I hope Joey ends up happy and I really enjoyed this season I haven’t watched bachelor in a minute so I’m one
Of the the restored faith I’m like okay get let’s get to the finale episode yeah if Joey is either single or or we’re right and he’s with Kelsey who do you want to see his Bachelorette because I to me Daisy was made to be the Vette but
Yet Maria the Maria fans are seem to be running strong you don’t seem to like f you I would pick Rachel over Daisy Daisy is not as rude to me on what like Rachel just seems like a nice normal girl nice and normal has never made a good
Bachelorette Joey is nice and normal and he made a good Bachelor that’s they do not that’s not how they that’s want a hot mess Express for a bachelorette you have a point in Daisy is maybe more wholesome than Rachel so like her Daisy is more wholesome than
Rachel is think wholesome in the sense of what is wrong with Daisy nothing’s wrong with her I just don’t find her as like likable and rootable as other people do I don’t think really I think it’s a she’s a lot oh interesting is it I’m like wait I
Yeah you have blown his mind you guys are all looking at me like I have five hats noan listen we love a we love a hot T no I don’t know maybe it’s just me I again not the person Rachel she seems lovely but I could not be more bored of
I mean there have been some moment but Joey to me was boring cuz he’s nice but the bachelor loves a sweet unpro problematic Bachelor right and B Nation wants a someone who can speak their their mind and stand in their power even if it comes with a bit of a mess uh
That’s spicy I guess you’re right they do not want to demure right quiet how did you view charity I mean she seems like a lovely person right so you think charity like a Rachel would be like a charity whereas like Daisy would be like a Hannah Brown I don’t think Daisy would
Be like a Hannah Brown I Maria would be like think Maria would be more like Hann Maria to me is like a nogo oh I think she’d be so fun I I I think it would be entertaining I that’s why I think I think Daisy that’s why I see I say I
Think Daisy is quintessential bat shat like she doesn’t seem as spicy or as like you know it’s going to be all drama with Daisy but she seems to like just heard saying to Joey I don’t even know if I’m into you yet she she seems to be
Willing not to just say something for the sake of Television you know and I think she has an interesting story the backstory with her clear implants is you know something she’s had to overcome I think that would be just an interesting Dynamic to see how several men would
Handle yeah you know dating someone who has you know a hearing impairment you know so there’s a little I don’t disagree I don’t disagree with that I think she has a really good story I just I don’t know there’s something about her to me that I her grabbing Jo and making
Out with them you know she seems to be willing to go there where you know it just we haven’t really Rachel incredibly reserved you know like it’s just sometimes when they like throw like somebody that was like in like top 10 I was like what about Lexi I also was
Thinking Lexi Lexi could you know she’s got a that’s a good story that’s a great story timeline her yeah the biological clock and you just get a bunch of mature men who are ready for that how old how old is she early 30 when I spoke last time I
Spoke to the producers and we were talking about how great golden did and how obviously Joey season has been doing well and charity season honestly did okay but it just doesn’t compare to the numbers that golden got is that they were thinking like we need to do we need
To go up a little bit more because there isn’t right now it’s like children basically yeah how old is Daisy so she’s like 28 Joy’s 29 Lexi Daisy’s 25 Lexi’s 30 oh Lexi’s only 25 oh Lexi’s 30 dais Daisy only so Lexi’s 30 I mean they’ve casted plenty I mean Hannah
Brown was I think 25 JoJo was 25 they’ve had some great Bach rettes absolutely at 25 I just think that does add a little bit more life experience if you up the a little bit mhm I’m more critical when it comes to the bachelor’s being so young than the bachelorettees I would agree
You know like I just yeah it’s so to me rings so false when the these Bachelor act like they’ve never had a girlfriend right and don’t know how to talk to women well we even saw that with his timeline well Joey does Joey I mean he
We don’t know much about him and again he’s teased a little bit this episode but like if nothing else Joey you can tell he knows how to be around women right and they’ve literally have some of our most recent Bachelors you’re honestly wondering if being The Bachelor
Was the first time they’ve ever been approached or by a woman yeah um and that’s just kind of weird television you know like no offense guys uh this is their first date was that was night one they yeah it gives that so but Joey does not give that Joey gives he is very
Comfortable with dating you know very personable has a lot of Charisma has RZ as they the kids say as the kids say so wow so not Daisy not Maria yeah I could see Lexi Lexi I could Lexi I could go I could definitely see Lexi that’ be good
Tele that’s a great story she’s beautiful that would be that would be one I would really want to watch interesting yeah but I think Maria would be a lot of fun too I think it there’ be entertaining moments for sure you’re not on the Maria board I’m not and why do
You I think she’s hard to root for also why cuz a lot of people don’t agree with you I know I just I’m not sure is it drama the drama to me I know that drama is better TV and that’s what people want to watch but like the that makes me want
To watch it less do you think she almost scripted her storyline 100% like her even her exit she knew enough to you know I’m not you’re not you know whether she was like asking producers like what what looks good what do I that’s kind of
To send her home you know the kind of vibe I got I think she’s probably a very lovely girl but I just don’t I don’t think she would be a good in my opinion I don’t think a bachelorette would be so she would be the bachelorette in one watch interesting interesting okay they
Have they seem to have some good choices yeah they do and with the finale being I don’t know what it is but they again continue to tease it as first time ever some first time ever and those tens of moments seem to produce their next leads because there’s nothing more powerful
Than the lasting impression that we have uh so whoever your runner up is see I would think is would be if there is a runnerup or it’s the woman he if he like the most thanks Joey you’re setting it up um if that is the case so interesting
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