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Massive following on social media. >> Budding which is studying and case team life. >> I think I’m coming at a time where grabbed his gun and very street in. I think I’m blessed to like have a spot right now because it’s not time like it’s like in this letter as many why

Boys in his weekend, people are looking for authenticity. So how close is this to home? It’s not far off. So I think people relate to a lot of fans of the show talked. I cross and just like that, you meant so much to me yet.

>> Harlow currently is touring the country with his latest album Come home. The kids Miss you when that title is a nod to his desire to get back to his hometown of Louisville, Kentucky, after a dizzying rise to fame talk going to spend so much time away from Kentucky. >> That

Something was call me back and continues to I record most out outside of Kentucky. Nelson was kind of inside joke that I’d see my fans commenting and everything that was said on some like just in life and you go to the summit just fo procreate for the time. Yeah. Became like

I just like titles like Signifier. So speaking of where you are with the title of the album, you have exploded in the last couple years in popularity and fame and success and all those measurables. How have you kept your head about you? And I do think the company it may be

It’s a lot of Monday ones and team strong like a lot of people around me of like strong integrity on a day-to-day basis. They start to rub off on you. Well, my home was once a still tell me exactly what they think are make fun of me. It’s not some weird hierarchy that

Makes me feel like I’m in a strange position about your family. They keep you grounded to. Yeah. Definitely. It may be clearing all the time that they like care about my happiness before anything. You have a party and you have some people over yet his moment. We like, you know, all these people

Might not be here. If I was in the position I was in life, maybe they would be smiling as hard and maybe they would laugh as hard. Every joke a game. And then so you start to account for everyone in your life that you feel would be no matter what. Check this out.

>> I’m the son of small business owners. Harlow was raised in a home that was a little bit country a little bit hip-hop with a mother who listen to Drake and then and Kanye West. >> So how early do you remember listening to hip-hop with your mom? I would say on

Earliest memories when she went and bought late registration. put in the causes. They can hear his case. A lot of these words are about to hear. So as we bring this in the late registration color, the full year, a key moment for me

Should a huge CD collection that I was through my home. You know what out even being handed. Anything’s been missed. If we have I like Dustin off the vinyl moments because of her. But your dad’s a country guy, right? Yes. You’ve got these to

Influence the yeah. Does that side show up in your view? So, yeah, the storytelling, which is in both genres, but like the broad he likes to sing. He’s saying it there. What are you saying? Suspicious minds by of this. So yeah, he my dad so full.

So I’m definitely inherited some of that. And yeah, I love country. I don’t know if I I would make country, but there’s like a lot of the emotion and story tone just the yearning. I love about it. >> That the girls like OMG skate is like totally stand as

We get to like you to notice me. >> Going by Mister Harlow, Jack First showed promise with the mic in middle school where he sold homemade mix. Tapes for $2 a pop. >> So your your parents talk about when you were young with the guitar hero. Mike, you’re in your room,

Writing rhymes. You have years old. Is that about when you remember catching the bug? I think hip-hop’s my thing. teen, right? It was everything is influencing the way we’re addressing even as white kids. It was just like it was the it was culture,

Period. So it’s what you grow up and take the kids decide to go make a band of the ones that we’re doing something nice. >> To be on the mix, tapes that were very popular. What’s the moment where you said, okay, now I know I can do this for a career.

>> Of course, is like a affirming moments. But like I can’t pinpoint a time was like unsure, which is strange. But I think day after day yourself, images like the slowly shape your reality into exactly what you expect for you. So and of course, is bumps

Along the way to discourage you. Tons of and pasta center for me. Really? Yeah, it’s a means a black summer. And that was why so as I am white. So, you know, so many of your peers come from a different background and have different stories and use it

Feel like you have moments. We feel like an outsider. >> So how did you get over that? How did you make that leap to feeling like you? Yes, I should be here with these guys. >> You know, there’s like those moments when you’re in your

Head and then there’s moments where you’re out. And I think I was looking up to spend more time out of it. Not since. I wonder how they’re taking me and more like, you know, I’m good. I belong. >> What’s it like to walk out here? Just wall to wall for

Sealing people screaming and giving it all back to. >> On the right night, it’s a complete reminder why she says Holy Forest. >> It has been 2 years of highs for Jack Harlow that with the remains to the hip-hop artist who exploded onto the scene in

2025 Brando with just how did with the multi platinum hit, what’s popular? Try reading so claim they come then came a feature on the Lil Nas X hit Industry base. Yes, I am. They followed this year by first Class. Our lows for song to go to number one with some help from an

Irresistible sample of 30’s Lammers I’ve been. >> I was proud of first class as any song and it’s not. It’s not because of how big it is years because of what it is and what is it to you? It’s just full circle anytime you

Can work your own personal DNA into year artist or hip-hop artist. Been doing it for years. A sample, whatever their parents for plan in the house with a simple something they love when they were 6 was beautiful as this kids right now, that thing that’s the song and they hear

Glamorous and others that remain some first-class it. You know? I mean, so it’s bringing it to a new generation fair to say that is a song that changed your life. Yeah, I would say so. Anytime you get a song that just translates in touch as everyone knows children,

You know, older people know everyone knows the sake. It does something to your career in a moment. It’s crazy because it’s such a commercial record. But it’s so full circle for me because I was paying homage when I did it, which is one of

The pillars of hip-hop is to sample. And it was like we created this from the ground up me and my producers and chose a song that I grew up on. I was like let’s make something of this. It’s rare. I think the people sometimes people’s biggest commercial moma’s might not

Resonate in our heart. Even though success and the grateful for it might not hit their heart. Like I think people will be surprised to know that first class is light soulful to me. At least you got a lot of influences growing up. I think that wouldn’t be the first one most people would

Pick for you to come out with your big hit song, right? And that’s what you want. Something that’s like all because I think when it came out I was com live and as the Biden that and that’s what you want, you want one of those light,

What you want your peers, but how and I think it so now that you decide that’s the sample. What’s your writing process? Yeah, well, it was like sort of a theme throughout the album is conversing with the sample. So not just letting the sample be in the background talking

Over it, but rather like playing off of it. Even my intro talk of the town, we sample Destiny’s Child. I’m talking to the sample. So it became a theme throughout the album on think and then for the verses, I think we hit the nail on the

Head with the hook so hard and just was so like some obvious about it like it is very easy to it has to for the versus I just want to wrap. It’s a few things that might even be polarizing like certain lines of people like Howdy say

That. But it’s like that’s the balance. It’s cure Asian, like anyone had the opportunity to sample climbers and one is a law allowed to do that. It’s like when you choose to do it in time like it’s up to you. >> Show you that, you know, to play Jack is going places I

Know. >> But his sights are set on more than music with an upcoming acting debut in a remake of the 1992 movement. White Men can’t jump you. Play basketball stepping into the role made famous by Woody Harrelson. >> I can play how the cameras will tell you what, though,

Using the good takes it to get. >> And while he seemingly is everywhere, the Stace Harlow still is most at home on stage. >> Having the girls allies, smoke delays is so far I have an empty stays not perform. What a white teen shorts on. If the crowd is perfect, nothing else matters.

Last time you were in Boston here, a little bar and a scare of 100 people right now. There are people sleeping on the sidewalk to get in tonight. So many levels you can reach right to be told. I looked online. This is really all you need to sell out of room

News of the world. So many people don’t get a chance to fill this. When you look ahead when you see, but they still have a lot to prove in the music space. I think it has like some amazing commercial success, but I think there are still stories and light.

Our I want to make that I haven’t made. I think I still have to prove myself a little bit, which is exciting to guess how you want to feel. That’s how you stay hungry. So as my image and brand continues to grow and people recognize me

In the street, whether they listen to music or not, I really want to make sure that I leave behind the mark. I want to leave on music and be a true story. Tell it have music. I’m really proud of that. I go back on and say, this help someone.

So I still have steps they want to take as the Sardis so well. But in terms of trajectory like we’ve been in for >> Who’s the best player in the band, whether holding look at Tar Bora ping pong Marcus, Mumford can play. We used to take inside one as

Well. I should be much about it. >> At the moment, the Mumford and Sons frontman is out on the road without spending during behind his debut solo self tight. >> What’s a proper album Awaken. We Don’t see them anymore. Which is you’ve got to listen to the whole thing from

One 10 to hear the full story. Yeah. And Beyonce, John, you go get that album, fires Burning. What made you want to sit down step away from Mumford for a bit and tell this story? I didn’t think of it. I wasn’t intentional about at the

Beginning. I just wanted to write songs again. First to songs that came out, what kind of will and Grace, which of the fest 2 songs on the record. As soon as I’ve written them, I should because the back side and that this is a bad record. I received a wreck what it

Feels like something I maybe should do my and they will completely agreed in support of it. So then the sums to start rolling on off to the other, spent about 18 months rising and recording and listed more support and out of the hat for anything I’ve

Done says with that is cool to set the record as much collaborative ties to cover what time and and yeah, the sums are in the lead. I was determined to follow the creative where that. >> The album opens with Hannibal Mumford’s deeply personal and painful saw about the sexual abuse he suffered as

A child. >> When I’m being yeah and June 2, all of this thing and said out loud. >> So we had so much private things. Yeah. And that but of Altice baby away. You write a song about something really personal and they needed the most public thing you can do

With it. You gun publicize it. But the people and the guys on the radio, whatever it it’s just a really weird thing that we day as to spot. I sort of refused to call it a record until I had all the songs. I just didn’t want to think

About releasing it until I knew that was something that to release. And then I think it I think about that stuff lights. So really I didn’t even cool an album until late last year. And then this year started thinking about how to present

Its people. At that point, I started thinking, oh, you have to talk about this and have to and and seeing that more is an opportunity. Then some said punishment is how I approached it and it feels good to feel conference in half in kind of fell out. But then the presses

Was it a difficult decision or it sounds like it wasn’t. It was a decision. I once I’d written that I, you know, just became Paul the collection sums along with the oven on on the record and then this year, something okay. That’s going to be

Put out some. I know a lot of people have stepped out and said, oh, my gosh, he’s telling my story. I can tell my thing. Yeah. The reason that called itself talked rather than using Monday because I love the idea that other people might be able

To access parts of my story and project that run on to it all feel something from their own story and mine which is really cool. Said the Magic News. >> After Cannibal comes Grace, a song that recounts the experience of month for telling his mother about the abuse only recent.

>> So I told him out for that stuff happens when a play that kind of was the first time she kind of put that. And so all right, grace like first there as well. How should we proceed without things getting too heavy? And that

Sort of acts, I think, is an invitation ordinance to join me in. Well, I think becomes a story about freedom and recovery and has a lot of hype in it. Beyonce guy. She was talks about leaving people with yes. And that’s true. I think

On every song on the record the festival ends with beginning again and then it kind of goes on. >> The album closes with a song about Forgiveness Co written. >> By Mumford’s fraying Grammy winner Brandi Carlile release you from Let me.

>> The first there in the first summit if I could get and that officers are well and it’s a statement of intent is not necessarily saying forgiveness is done and dusted. I think it’s more of a process like a left right thing. I’m going to

Choose to do this. You feel like you need to forgive yourself for something. Oh, yeah, towns. It’s really a for any of the age. Had things head in my life and they would cascade into up things and just get tangled up in it all and so

On picking that to giving us a fast and I think support of kind of recovery. Have you found forgiveness? Not just for yourself but beyond. Is that last song true? Well, I think I certainly find myself in the eye, I think with more access to compassion. So people

Behave in ways that seem like abhorrent Aquinas to may and bond got all these stories and set the mark and of like bad. But it is or behaviors that are in effect on the people negative ways. There’s no malice story underneath that.

And so I think I’m able to us not just see the way someone presents but think I wouldn’t project a story on them, but think like it’s all bunch of stuff going on in your life. And it seems by the way of presenting to me, they haven’t had the options is

A look at that stuff. So instead of just write someone off completely and saying, look, you know, I want to ever associate with which is that there’s a lot of that in all culture the moment and I get it a complete. But the fact that it’s more complicated than just one

Single not ignore moment as late as that is that I think I’ve got more access to compassion. Maybe I did before. >> Self titled is dedicated to Mumford’s wife. The Oscar nominated actress Carey Mulligan. The pair have been married since 2012 and have 2 young children. You know, I think.

>> Creates apartments like sometimes a bit of bad rat. That was one day. Ashley was Judea and care is showing up. She was driving and they had like these really fancy little plaque kautz to put in front of a parking spots. So one saying Marcus,

Mumford on my part that she called me says what up officer this law allocates its for you? And when she showed up, I got and, you know, cause roll that out. She’s like Kick Act like that. But I wouldn’t have made it without a as good reason

That’s dedicated to and she’s been phenomenal. They support civil a school. >> Born in California to parents who are leaders in their church, Mumford moved with the family back to London. At 6 months old, his prodigious talent for music was 4 in the kitchen.

>> Do you remember, Marcus, when the spark was live for you in terms of music? The kitchen in my house growing up was the place. So we the since the mice music outside to call my mom’s amazing chef. She would be in the kitchen, make stuff and

Itself will listen to music. And I remember pulling out pops up at the start of the drums and then yeah, listening to music with my mom in the kitchen. She had a vinyl a slight rain coming. She had those are good taste and that

Alice little vocal music. She was a kind of saying it. The cause and Utah for a little percussion. A little bit of caution. Some common it’s yeah, yeah. And then at what point did you say? I know you left college to pursue this. At what

Point did you say this is something I really want to go after? I so I say my head us to set that still 70 per still got about to colleges. Yeah, I left college on. So that’s a cool. Yeah. Because I got offered the job by Giannis would go about it

And what did that and of course that yeah, we set up by yeah. Jumped up in the end. If Russia is play the summer too and then the fest for the states we did. We were off of us will have backing band. And

When that slipped back lounge on the boss because a lot of bucks, Russell and then from that role, she really gave us the lead up to play and shows >> Mumford has spent more than a decade performing in a really is around the world with Mumford and Sons in the band he

Formed with Friends in 2007. Their debut album Sigh No more was released in the U.S. in 2010 climbing to number 2 on the billboard chart while selling more than 3 million copies and earning the bandit Brenden now and for best new artist.

>> I think that this is what I think normally do like to 3 fit surrounds and then moved up to the bigger ones. Just went weak line. Not a lot of faust’s. >> We were talking earlier today about a performance that grabbed a lot of people which is at the Grammys in 2011.

I was watching again this morning the way you are stopping on that riser and then the horns come in and you have this look about 2 minutes in of just complete joy. Almost like can you believe where we are boys? Do you remember that night? Well, because, yeah,

Things change for you after that. >> If Bob Dylan set to majoring because that was the one we did with the brothers, Dan in pretty much the only thing he said to me, General houses. Keep that thank God because I was stumped. Yeah. And and tough to sit that matchup.

Let’s law for the floor some. >> Yeah, I think and it was funny because often we played awesome. That’s but that’s all we went on the CA to get ready to come on to play out his phone with them. And I think it’s probably

When the lot will cause is happening to house many tens of millions of people. I think it was the first something to me is sick, but he kind of liked. And we came back while the eyes of playing time. But many would play that again.

I stopped by the time. I just really quite because we’re behind the cut. It’s right that stop playing in the cave. And the guys I could sing on the U.S. to not use from that. We’ve been practicing for 3 days. We’re already talking to

Me, but you build it will be what you tell us today. I’m going to say on that and then his base. But I think it was just as the nation will stay. But seconds. Is that an out of body experience that Bob Dylan is leaving in and it has no him

This way yet yet has one on that. But again. >> Mumford and Sons. Next. 2 albums debuted at number one, making the band a foot stopping international sensation. That fans will be happy to hear is just on the break. >> That is, but I’ll say is like hopefully one in very many

Records and make it sound like. >> A new way of making news on his own giving Mumford a new perspective, too. >> I think I take myself that seriously, which helps. And I know it’s just a period of time in my life and about about

Next. I’m really excited about that. But for now, I’m just trying to enjoy it this spirit. >> The today show >> Very high teen or yeah, haha you it’s so great to see you unmasked in the flash my hero on mask. In a garden and a

Rooftop in New York. This is the latest I’ve ever state let’s be honest the EU very early in the morning that is true. So we’ve co-host of the today show together over the years great highlights of my career and life. The first time

You hosted I was saying some of the celebrity guest host they’re a little nervous. Understandably, yes, the fish out of water. >> And I think I think James going to be OK. >> And I’m sitting at the desk. Good morning. It’s Monday

Morning. Yes thing and you come in on roller skates this hole. >> My God. >> Is that who I think it is >> and by the way full roller skating skills are deep in your New Jersey child. Yeah, you nailed it right from the

Actors, so you always bring it I guess what I’m saying so we’re talking about this time at home this last year and a half yeah you’ve actually been working a lot. Like you’ve been at home with your son, but also your Australia shooting at you

Like you’ve got all these things going on so what was that balance for you of time at home and work in the beginning it was obviously all shut down. Yeah, it was just so la me and my son at home and it was interesting time for me and I’m

Sure you feel this way about your kids what we learned a lot about our kids that we didn’t know and to me the think the thing I like the most besides knowing that I don’t know anything from the 3rd to 4th grade. Haha but Preston at the

Same. But then I eased into and I got into the joy of actually be learning everything that my son and fighting join up, but I loved seeing how my son learns he’s 2 years at home really taught me who my son is and what how we learns what

Ignites him, you know what his strengths and weaknesses are and you hear them in the U.S. and the party to come for some sort of like. Well I was not like that at home. We justify our head right and then being his you know coach teacher for

A year and a half almost 2 years. I was like oh, yeah, you’re right he struggles there or he needs more attention here and so that was really eye opening for me and a great lesson and yeah, I feel very lucky that he has a hole in the

Person Aaron did she like having mom at home helping them time or was he like okay, I love you meant little space now I think people kind of loved it I really enjoyed it and like you my our start very early so there’s many hours that I would

Be gone before he wakes up or when doing a Broadway show getting home after that time. So this was a a joy for him and a joy for me I it was heart of New York. As a New Yorker I ice it makes you still make the trip of I

Got so sad like hearing the sirens Ray and heavier thing shut down if you ever told me in our lifetime that New York could shut down and not be 24 7, I would have never believed that you know we would go out every night at 07:00PM the Bengals

Pass and I felt this emotional right now I feel that overwhelming emotion to say thank you to these people that saved New York from the brink. So now we’re in a time where we’ve made it through New Yorkers are so hard and so strong where you know largely vaccinated which is so

Wonderful and now I’m excited to see New York come back. So much a part of that for me is having broad may come back. Yeah, I’m excited that work is slowly coming back for us that we’re seeing each other in person, yeah that my son will

Return. He’s go back to school. And hopefully New York will will come back better better than ever and because I believe in New York or so much I know bill. >> Your Apple TV plus series naked in yeah, which incorporates elements of Broadway because couples

Walking through the forest in the woods. And they happen into a universe that is a beacon 1940’s era, musical production right to use a man or something yeah. So first of all great concept. Love that so where do you fit into that story as the

>> Well, let’s just go back when I first read the script, Countess. I was like I’m the Lady who’s going to watch it at home now how could I also get a because it came from Lorne Michaels I was asked to do some of the early meetings of it before as

They were still crafting it and I feel like I was lucky enough to be a part of it from the ground up. It’s written by the loving loving musical theater, loving heart of cinco Paul who is one of the most infectious happy joyous people I’ve ever

Worked with and has such a true love of musical theater and you could tell it’s infused in every moment to get in. I play took this. Van Blair can all of our characters reminiscent of characters that you know from 1940’s musicals mind is very

The remnants of the Baroness in the Sound of Music. That’s right. So she comes from a jot like the bridge on a jot in the city and she comes back to fight now. The doctor taking up with Melissa who is the people who are not from schmigadoon

Right coming to find true love to get out of the strong Santa and they’re hilarious that I actually I loved that it is a loving piracy of musical theater but also has such a weighty humorous sensibility tacked on to it you like the

Show with you like musicals or hate news right because both sides are being. Haha I love that. >> And there’s some eye rolling. The theater of it all from the other side. So you’re right you do get a and as I said you before it is like in modern all-star cast for

Broadway between you and Kristin Chenoweth and Alan I could go on and on and on, but yeah asked. >> We also filmed this wonderful little gem of a series during the pandemic that it was right when filming was being allowed to happen again under great restrictions.

We all went up to Vancouver we quarantine for a very long 14 days, we would rehearse on zoom if we could I mean I got basically maybe an hour or so in the car, a fairway masks and face shields we rehearsed on to fold-out

Chair and that was meant to be this convertible car that do this amazing number that cinco vote for me and the first time in that sense fully in person was when they called action. I think so much of the hardest and again is that we were able

To actually do live musical theater when there was no live musical theater at the time and it’s going to air now at a time when used to say that probably hasn’t come back to your hometown yet but hopefully about a son so.

>> I was like I said you’re busy so the schmigadoon got a new season Dickinson. >> I think the consensus is such a cool show it’s so well and by Alanna Smith, I bet it and was like this is so creatively interesting to me that I just want to see how

It’s going to be done so I want to be a part of that. It’s been really interesting because the show lives on on many levels it could be completely funny and the next minute be completely heartfelt and beautiful and poignant. Wiz Khalifa comes all right and they’re saying it’s we’re

Working to a rap song. So you just kind of got to go with that but I I was my mom was a huge family to consent and she taught me some of them later can says problems when I was a child and so I first saw the script for her to consent.

It started with the Paul my mom had talked to a resident was a kid which is I know, but I hear you. I was like week, then it said it are set to like about sounds like oh this might be

The blending of all world, so I want to I want to be a part of this creatively I feel like each year, the show. Each season, the show. Some nest its way into something special and beautiful and I hope people find it, I’m not sure if anybody’s watching to consider

Who even knows where it is it’s an apple TV. But I thought yeah I’m headed but it’s daunting to do comedy, especially you know they like to do physical comedy. And of course it. How is a day in a row of course at rdu roller skate in the

Example, you know there’s a modern twist, you don’t know which days they they have have a a nice guy. But it’s then a joy and I’m really proud of the ultimate product of of what it >> So what is it when you get a script, Jane that you see and is.

You go oh yeah that’s a new service PRI. Yes, grabs again, there’s always something there it seems that that turns you on its that want to be a part of that. >> It’s just something special that gets ignited in me, I think like I feel like

And a lot of it is there’s excitement and fear. This book right right Sears is good, I think because it can push you to try something new all the description, I really wanted to do it, but I don’t get that feeling and I’m like

And like I guess I’m not going to do this fun, I don’t feel it’s not doing that to me and so it’s just an inner instinct you just get that that Biden side. >> Like a challenge clearly something that I don’t know can

I pull this off when you read the script. Oh yeah. >> Yeah, I like that if it’s not there, I’ll try to begin for myself harder harder for myself what am I guess. and that’s just you being which is actually a character you don’t play very much right to say like.

>> Which might be for the best years. Small doses haha but it’s you get to be funny and you get to do all saying yes and you get to be you person that I know that very seat so how much fun is that show to do so much fun and I grew up

Watching name that tune and I grew up in a very musical family. Up so we would you know yell at the television every time we could see as many as we can get it and try to get the song to try to you know compete against each other in a family

Family way. So yet when it came today. It was such a gift. It was at the height of the pandemic they flew us to Australia to some that because we could with their with their restrictions we were able to have a live band live audience

And it was my first time you know hosting a game show set to speak and it was all joy. I’m in love with Randy Jackson. Then to Jackson is such a cool guy a great friend and an amazing producer, he is really really a smart guy and considering everybody in

The network was in California watching our life takes like 5 in the morning and it was the and red nice as the old the Americans this entirely, Australia production. It was really wonderful to have Randy has as a cohort out there and and using ksat’s bill again and

Longstanding experience in that world right from American idol and all that he taught me a lot and I’m very grateful for his >> That’s got to be a really cool thing to have grown up friendship. watching something and then be in a position your life for them they ask you to

Be the person to recreate those the sort of perspective pinch me moments along the way. >> Yeah, they are I’ve had a bunch of those probably too because as a briefly this mission might my parents did a lot of community Theater in New Jersey that was their hobby outside of there.

The professions and so they would take me to the community theater at them and from the time I was in a crib I was backstage just community theater and I watch my mom make costumes for show or be in a show or my dad produce a show

Or be in a show and I’ve had many of those shows I’ve come to be on Broadway. A few of them because I’ve been probably shows but a few of them in those moments. Are the moments where I think wow how did this even happen

Like how did I see my dad and my mom be in the show community theater and now I’m opening on Broadway and I those those days are never lost on me X, I’m so thankful to support and creativity that my parents and fused into our lives the child

And then in this has been in this business and I still love it just as much. >> Generally speaking you are not a jaded person you don’t take all these things in your life and career for granted. >> Not a step not a minute that I’m so thankful and as a mom of

A 10 year-old I hope my son can find what he loves to do and I can nurture it and say yes and go and go so he can find that for himself too. You have a life well lived serious, don’t you it’s a life well lived when you can get to do

What you love to do for for your whole life and you’re doing it. >> I forgot where Mike and I got out to just to walk off. If there was a like a drop of, but I did actually drop that was that was a it was unconventional my haven’t known

A lot of drop. I’m not exactly conventional. seems to be completely inevitable that you’re going to do what you’re doing right now, which is to be on stage and on screen was there ever a moment along the way where you’re going to like

The accountant or was it like this is who I’m going to be. >> Well you didn’t see my grades will so I knew very early on and you need to hold my personality to think about anything else not really I mean I grew up with a with a very

Practical father. Always was worried about the rainy day for me. And so. Yeah we looked into you know, I I thought for a while I want to be a lawyer. That was never really enough I I guess there’s some other

Things I thought I would want to do but I was lucky enough to get to get a yes and to get to get in. I mean there’s been years writing get work. And times in our career where we’re high rubble or not hire or the

Right musicals are being done or you’re just like 2 inches too short to be office the leading that are many many reasons that we don’t get jobs in show business and those can that can knock you down, but I don’t think there’s ever a moment I really wanted to do anything else.

>> OK so there. A bunch of great roles that you’re associated with TV. What do you hear about the most alley mcbeal yeah, 30 rock yes Kimmy Schmidt’s yes just jakelin’s incredible character that Stacy and you’ve said you said you enjoy finding the

Humor in monster’s yeah, make comedy out of monsters and when you see what I read that but yeah, yeah, Jaclyn that’s Jenna a little bit that’s something you really well. >> An Estero maasai clearly exaggerated for a crowd of sense of humor but it’s I think I love them

Finding a sense of humor and flaws in people and they could be flaws and all of us whether we come off that way or not but I love heightening them too. A place of humor and I think I think definitely those characters had that I’ve also

Been much as were bit by some of the greatest writers in television or just say the greatest writers so you can’t take that out of the equation and it brings me to I think what I love most about but I do and and I feel this way even

With our conversations they believe that it’s the collaboration, it’s the it’s the joint conversation and I feel like every job I’ve been lucky enough to do is done with people who that collaboration is maybe better collaboration is made me grow that collaboration has inspired me and that’s what I feel so thankful about.

>> I think Alan bill is it fair to say that maybe your first experience with something that Hugh yeah, where this is a cultural thing that people are talking about the next right thing and yeah. >> It was my first TV series and I was very defensive

Calista Flockhart from just in New York theater scene and we have both flown out for our final screen tests together and we this is sort of ice. The SUP the sort of kind of what the host has kind of felt like the snow out coach, he caught the

Jobs while we were there both of us and we flew back for us to warm warm, fresh cookies in all which was a first for Bay. And it’s sort of explains the whole experience like we’ve been in none of us had ever been on TV. I remember the

First day I realize that I feel is hit was I was driving home in La traffic and people are analyzing it. The next after the day after the up and said I’m on the on the radio and I don’t even know

If I knew what a water cooler show us and that was the day I realized that it was it was out there, you know it was us, it was something and it wasn’t it was a great experience for me in general again it was a very specific sense of humor

Quite exaggerated character that I adored I like about the characters that I play even though they’re flawed. I love them. Yeah, I have radical compassion for them all. And I think that is something I’m so happy. I am to see my characters and now

I want to infuse that everywhere in life I think we’re at a time in life we all should have radical compassion for each other and then. >> Did you feel your life changing just in terms of going into a restaurant, people know you are okay your mound bill

Was that the first time that’s happened. Yeah for sure did that feel strange at all. >> It felt strange but exciting until it didn’t write until it backfires on someone and it’s I didn’t really get the negative experience of that. During during that show and maybe

Because I was more of a supporting player. It was definitely an experience where our lives all changed and and I remember the first year we all got to go to the the Golden Globes. So I asked everybody to come over to my dental apartment before and we all like had a glass of

Champagne got out of the same when I was like it worked for the friends, maybe this feel safer. If we Heather from probably did all those pictures outside of by apart earlier we were all like suddenly going to the Golden Globes and it was is a great type of memory.

>> But when that series wraps up the there’s something in your mind back to the Broadway thing I want to come back to New York, yeah, and then boy does that work out well for >> Could he have really done your to highlight every behind

It now no it’s all kicking around up here. You to see, but I yeah, something told you that CB was fun does Excite show way back home to the stage yet at which point you want to own very sweet of you, it’s also about 50. Haha

I’m going on for 5 seasons. So I was 5 years living away from New York for the first time in my life and I really missed it. So I put all my la life my rented l a life into a storage unit and came back to New York.

And addition for a show called 9. It became my my home coming back to the public community. Maybe one of the most satisfying and wonderful creative experiences as well in my career and yes, a lifelong dream came true that I when the Tony for that show which

You know, I’m still kind of wowed by that that fact when they call your name does that all come back. >> Parents think it is theater in the crib that whole road that got to that stage. >> When they called my hand I went blank like I think I had a

Moment of an out of body experience my speeches awful place to play on the show because I literally like like I can’t believe what just happened to right. I think it it seemed like. Too far of a reach like it that would never happen and I really going to like some.

Some losses own. across the river. Yeah. >> I don’t know what good juju was on my side, the dad that Tina Fey and Robert carlock I’m I was there I will Shortz to that audition which was a missed call. Ed, I know it was a

Missed call that you know ready to joke about women of a certain age still wear shorts, actually on 30 rock. Haha short says side it was a day that changed my life. I luckily got that job and then I was blessed with

7 seasons of one of the greatest tops my life and the greatest writing of my life and then for more on that fateful condition at which is kind of incredible and and I hope a lifelong friendship with all of the above that were part of the

Show’s did you know Tina before that addition to do no not at all any of her right right question has not yet at but now you guys just seem likes of kindred spirits. I don’t know why well, I’m really glad to know right now I am I’m so

Thankful for her friendship and the the comedy gold she bestowed on me and all of us it was not a day that we took that for granted that entire experience every moment of the 7 years that we were getting to make the show that we could

Come to the today show and use the today show as like part of our fictional world was crazy and awesome. >> And you can tell in Jenna that you had studies. >> A lot of people that you work with perhaps in your. What I say about.

>> Starlets and the business yeah I was not making any commentary like I told you I had a compassion for. But there could in the back a greater character to thrive and get the chance to flourish in that particular style of comedy.

>> That show I was telling my kids have been watching all your shows darcel and teens so this is new generation, yeah, yeah, and the show holds up 30 rock really holds a at absolutely holds up and had some edge to it that we were

Saying like. Yeah today at a little more difficult oh I think so I thinks I’m not sure. Well certainly that 30 rock >> Yeah being made today and would be an 8 today and it is could have been. should that lives in this time and then I did experience what

You’re saying like a whole new generation of people coming up to me so that they they watched over the pandemic and that’s that’s awesome. I’m glad that younger kids are seeing and you know future comedians are being exposed to it because there are some great downed lines from that show yeah,

>> And Kimmy Schmidt’s another favorite in our House of the yeah. our kids. I think it’s your first scene maybe when you’re hiring Kenny. >> She offers stimuli can he says no she just wrote wrote that out and water and I was like item for this girl which

I’m not sure is another do it by back and then she goes you know to braid hair. It could be says yes she is okay, great you have to meet the horse first. >> Yeah that’s got to be would not be a character like that

And you know you can just let it all go. >> And anything goes that comes out of that that’s got to be so fun. You know, Tina, it likes to use all the skills you’ve got yeah, how cool to be associate with that shows that

Always be considered I’m on. Yeah, I’m honored to be associated with those shows and I know it’s going to always be part of my comedy cadence for the rest of for the rest of my life and I’m I’m thrilled that I I had that opportunity.

>> Okay before I release you from the secure like you’ve done so much what’s out there have not done. >> But you still see on the horizon. Oh my gosh, I mean what happened you’ve done everything right. There’s so much, I have them.

So much I have I try to think of what I don’t think this way and I think this goes back to my parents raising the was such a practical sensibility like that I’ll never work again and I think every actor has a twin

You that in like win one job instead of oh God this maybe it like yeah, and I certainly felt that after Alan in your conditioning for 9, I thought. Well this Tech could have been like the high point of my whole career.

>> Sure I think that’s a little bit healthy by the way I think we all have it. Yeah, if you did what if you to of course a >> If you add a touch right now on stuff will bite getting to job. work with people I really want to work with

I’ve been so lucky really to work with people who are so great what they do like some of the greats and what they do and I hope that that continues. I think the more selective I guess, but I I’m blowing in the wind I’ve seen yes to let’s try

That before it’s a time of yes, and that’s kind of fun and freeing and some more animated you got my little pony coming up in September. You got to do it all yes, yes, well, I’ll let you roller skate out of here is a joy it brought them, I should

Have thought that we’re going to find that yeah, huge states you so great to see you too. >> The drop in the crowd was. So it’s nice step too far like the title of the movie that has her on the brink of Hollywood history. Michelle Yeoh right

Now is everything everywhere all at once. How are you feeling as you sit? >> In the middle of all this right now? >> You can see the big it’s been fabulous to see this little throw that has such a giant heart. He embraced

All these ways. When was when the movie came out last much we had will premiere and south by Southwest. We knew we had something magical. >> This is when are you with us? I am paying attention. >> Yo is nominated for her performance. As Evelyn Waugh,

A struggling laundromat owner s***** into the multiverse and seemingly endless. >> Alternate versions of her own life. You all new at something unique. Clearly something special that people hadn’t seen before. But you could not imagine as we sit here almost a year later. >> To have 11 nominations, 11 Academy Award nominations yet

Told me that last year we rely on me would love that. His fund is in the We’re if you look at it, it’s we did wacky wild, wonderful movies that we’ve ever original. Maybe 2 original for some people to like in the future kind of thing, right?

This is like 5 John Grove movies, all in one. But we had champions like 24 who understood this is a very special trip. >> I’m here because we need your help to save her Family. Joe’s character must master a wild different skill in each The role was written specifically for you by

Directing duo Daniel Kwan and Daniel Scheinert. >> I was watching the film again last night and my son came in in the middle of it said, what’s this about it? How to describe this? So I’m curious when the Daniels came to you the first time, how is this even pitch? Because it is

So unique. It’s unlike anything anyone has ever seen on the screen before. What was the pitch and did you get it right away? So they were very smart. They sent me the script. >> Because when you pick something like this is very hard to say, science fiction, comedy or a drama, Marcia,

Lots, you know, they beat this season. The pitch one, something like that for me meeting them was to see if they would not certifiably insane. This junior says had the college to write a story about a very ordinary woman. We women, mothers, daughters on team is grandma this ordinary.

But given the opportunity to be extraordinary. >> We’re playing ordinary is something new for an actress known previously for roles like the high-flying Warrior in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. >> Was was watching some of those fight scenes thinking she knows what she’s doing. She’s career, but I was also reading

In some of them. You may have been a little too good at it in a way that Evelyn might not have known how to fight that way. Is it true that the Daniels asked us for trying to get a little bit? You’re too good at it?

>> I think that he was he was that kids normally when I for example, in coaching Tiger Hidden Dragon, I’m the mentor. I’m the one he’s teaching the hot. But in this one, the Daniels came up to visit. All is Evelyn Waugh. She

Doesn’t have a clue what she’s doing. Hands know what she’s doing because she’s just jumped to the the universe and a quiet the skill and jump bad. But now you’re back to was head. So it was it was fracturing of the mine because it has to do

All these crazy things and the faces, what the h*** do it while I can do it. So it was it was good because that’s what I love being challenge. I love being say, you know, for them to come and sit, can you try this for us? Can you do this

For us and every day? That’s what say I love you in 8 different ways. or you have to do this and you have to do the KPA pet food. They roll through it all at you. Then they us. Yeah. >> You know, grew up in Malaysia dreaming of being a

Ballet games. As a teenager, she moved to London train at the theme royal academy. But when an injury cut short, a promising career, she turned toward drama, though, reluctantly. >> Boy, did I. That was the first time I discovered stage

Fright. When I had to say lines on stage. I forget my own me. >> At 20 yo returned home where she was horrified to learn her mother secret and enter into the Miss Malaysia at. >> Which she promptly one. >> So then I was given an opportunity to go to Hong Kong

To make a commercial to do a commercial says the watch commercial. That’s the watch. A crash with that, Jack. you know, Eugene hair and makeup early in the morning. You turn around and see this guy, Wolf. We move over nukes Familia and then I recognize

>> Josue was starring alongside Jackie Chan in Hong Kong. Action like Super Hot. >> And established star in Asia. Yo made the leap to Hollywood a town that it first did not seem to appreciate her resume. >> You came from a place where you can do anything. You want

To come show that to Hollywood and they weren’t ready for that. They had an idea. You should be what kind of actor you should be light. So how did you work through that in those in those early years? It’s not giving up. >> It’s like believing that it’s possible. I think first of

All, you must be passionate about what you do. This comes from passion. So you don’t see this a job. You just something that you love and when you love something big enough, then you want to make sure that it’s the right thing that you’re doing it and you’re doing it right

For this passion of us because it if you take on the job that takes you away from people, you love your family and all that. And so you better make sure that what you’re doing is really was your time. Your your your love and what you’re

Giving to it. And it is yes, when I was saying, you know, and then I came, I got here because in age in the whole World, Hollywood is the place to go because Hollywood is wet dreams come true. And that time quite a few direct to us and

Activists will try to make it in Hollywood a spot because that is ultimate dream. And then you get here and the for the first time I think I was I understood that I would minority the I almost couldn’t understand what it was like.

I think that look it up in addiction with a health spa. He’s, you know, I come from Malaysia where we a multi racial. We have malaise in the U.S. Chinese. And so, you know, it was all stereotype unit was every script that you read. The Asian has to come from China Town.

Joan, thank God. One, 20 something 30 us on the road. It’s all change because we are everywhere in the world. Not just students, but that’s right. >> Now in everything everywhere, all at once, you know, finally plays her first leading role in Hollywood with the performance that is making history, too.

>> This is not just for me. This is for every logo that looks like me. >> You’ve been to in some incredible movies. A lot of people in this moment are folks that she was so great in everything everywhere, which of course you are. But when you

Look back and I mean crouching Tiger and then where is it a shot, crazy rich age that go on and on this that you’ve had incredible. Yes, a resume of films. Is this a gratifying moment? Not just for this movie because now people are looking at your grandson. My gosh.

>> She truly is one of our best. It is. It is. And I must say that with the SAG Award that is from your peers, you know, from your fellow activists within 2 these kind of journey and, you know, the the the the whole worksafe

Wanting and not getting in desiring and all this and then be part of something that’s amazing and great and trying to find the next one in the next one. And sometimes it’s in said sometimes it’s it’s it just appears from you. But it’s very, very gratifying. And I’m glad I’m still here

Being able to enjoy it when it’s it’s and and have seen this such a long road ahead because like 60’s, the new prime. necessary next stop the Academy Awards with mom still offering advice? >> Just called me the other day. If you’re going to the

Oscars, you must not wear pants. Thanks for the tip, my. Yeah. Sure that and don’t do this and don’t do that and you should keep your hair. And and so and I was so easy. I I left a message. Mom know we tailor make the tuxedo form.

So I’m wearing pants to the mosque. That’s and today I got this really long message. You can tell them that you changed your mind. That need is a new app. Has you know short? Haha. >> I love my mom. The dynamic never change.

>> And sometimes I have to remind him, I said mom to know how old. You know when I go home, just your hair is so long. You look at the 2.10 get this year that like, okay. Nice to see you, too. >> This is find a moment, though, to say congratulations

To be nominated for an Academy award. >> She didn’t know. She said, yeah, yeah. She didn’t say congratulations and that way. She’s just say that everybody is very happy for you. Why can’t you like? Does that include you that don’t know. She’s very happy. I know she’s very, very happy.

She is a it’s emotional and to win an Academy Award. >> But with everything you just laid out, everything you just described, how much would it mean to you to stand? Not just for yourself, but for so many others holding that trophy? >> I think that’s the expectation

Globally right now because just the nomination had shine a light cost me h***. Yeah. Haha. But also much more there than just you. Yes, is beyond me. I mean, it’s right from when you saw to honoring all this kind of attention, it was very often use this Asian family. It was it was

Being seen. People around the world will say, look at us, he says, look, see us. Do you know those sidelined us? Give us a seat at the table. We’re not saying that. We deserve to be there for no good reasons. But we have to be given opportunities to play roles

That deserves a place at the table. But right now for a long bit for a long period of time, these Foles with so far and in between, right and for me, even myself, I’ve not been in the business a long time. And this was the first time in so many,

Yes, where I have an opportunity to show you. So it’s it’s a gift for me to be able to say, look at >> You like how a decorated the room for us. I’m so touched. He did it. I was here for am. Show the Raptors. This doesn’t

Happen overnight. So that make you comfortable you have. >> I’m Scott over the last decade or so. Paul run has made himself comfortable as a marvel superhero bringing a sorry about this. An unexpected career perhaps until he heard about his character.

>> What has it been like for you, Paul, to step into this Marvel world, which is amazing and so cool and great but also intense from the fan side and then expectations about the characters. We’ve got a lot of your career. But starting in

2015, you until I was totally different place. If you enjoyed sir being part of that family, I have I really have it honoring a cool thing to be a part of something that so many people care about. I think we’ll see. That certainly has a

History. And and that’s and you’re also a part of a team like I really like all of the other actors. Were you surprised by the phone call you got 10 years ago, 10 to the Marvel universe? I think people have like a preconceived notion

That you’re funny and all these different kinds of things. But superhero. I think you’ve said that for you as I owe me. Yeah. I mean, I wasn’t expecting that. Yeah. That call, you know, it’s it was originally going to it be directed by Edgar Wright is a friend of Biden enters films.

And if I seem like, Oh, yeah, I love his movies and we were friends and that this is this would be cool. I thought, oh, this seems this seems fun and also. >> Ant-Man that seems like one. Maybe people would buy the in more than Superman.

>> It’s definitely not by me. Is that I noticed. >> The latest Ant-Man movie Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantum-mania kicks off phase 5 with the Marvel Cinematic Universe, a notoriously secretive franchise. >> I want to stipulate for our audience. I have not seen the

Movie not because I don’t want to see the movie because I can’t see the movie and you can’t say much about the movie. Yeah. So what are we to talk about the fablemans? Yeah. Secret beaches to or some might we can talk about that gives Spielberg all the awards.

It’s just a great movie. It’s you know, it’s like the love of movie making. Yeah, we could talk about other ways. I’ve seen anything recently. Life the banshees them in a share and you catch that caught it. Loved it. Colin Farrell Gleason very cute

In ICE. I get back. I ask her cause. I want to perform top gun maverick. A lot of fun. I don’t know if I vote for it. You know, they’re also great fighter pilots tried yet. We know this. >> One interesting that, Scott, I don’t know you are, but

He made a big mistake. In a venture, let’s talk about where we find Ant-Man in this 3rd film. To the extent you can tell me that is after the events of and again, it was a 5 year gap. People turn to dust another

Back and that’s it doesn’t. And I just ruined a whole bunch of stuff to watch the show. Oh, yeah, spoiler alert. It’s picking up with now is a character that I play. Scott Lang Banks said, OK, finally and move forward now with my life and that, you know,

That doesn’t happen exactly the way that he doped. >> We’re plan you have talked about getting ready for these movies. He talked to Chris Pratt about how to become kind of superhero fit, right and hair phrase. I think it works. Eliminate all pleasure from your life in terms of eating

And drinking and yeah, that did you have to do it again for number 3. I did. I never try and fall too far off of it because getting back to that is really it’s hard. But I think it kind of fell off of it without me noticing when you’re in it, it’s not

It’s kind of challenging and fun and you feel good. But it’s also up. I this is finite. I know I’ve got to be doing this for the next 3 or 4 months and then, right. I want to do it, but it’s a lot, but it’s not. So it’s not so bad when you’re

In it and you do it for good reason, right? And then you pick it up for work. But then it becomes a part of your life and you May 10. So right. What I’m saying is presumably looks great. Haha, thank you. Thank you. Haha. I I would like to get

Back to little more than that, but we’re going to break right now. Yeah. Well, I mean as much as yeah Ish. Yeah, but it’s not really a break is just because it then becomes a. >> Oh God. What’s more boring than actor talking about his workout regimen.

See how they didn’t do it. Yes. Occurred. Be yeah. >> How many calories a day all got? >> You know, it’s bad when you weighing your chicken b*****. I hate myself. What I’m doing. She says God would come. >> Momentum, right. Jump to hang on to do is add to you.

>> Last time we talked a few years ago, you said your kids were maybe more aware of your career now because of it. And they used to walk by movies here and to see a poster. Yeah and say, well, you know, it’s when my kids were very yeah, I don’t

Really. And it’s, you know, I’m not going, you know, set my kids down the street and say, you know what? I’ve got some DVDs to show you. I really explain what I did. Yeah, my son, when he was about 4, 5, went to a movie theater

To see a movie with his friends. It was a movie poster that I was on. It was in the lobby. So they all just start that I worked at the movie theater, which I thought was very cute. It’s really cute. And then and then, yes, a few

Years later, I think when he was 15, he finally put it all >> A father of 2 of the 53 year-old drug has been a favorite fates on movie posters since his breakout role in the 1995 classic Lewis. >> It seems to me from the outside youth kept who you are.

What advice would you give to an actor who’s trying to make it in your business? I don’t know. I mean, I think there’s as far as I was trying to make it in any business. There’s no one way. I certainly learned that that it there. It’s

All different ways and you can eventually achieve your goals and the way you achieve your goal. It’s not going to happen the way you might think it would. But I would say that the the one thing that is importance to be a polite be on time. You nice to people.

I just think that that is the way it should always be matter what you do. I’ve been certainly lucky enough to work with some of the most successful people in this industry who have had amazing careers. I mean, I’m doing it right now. I’m on only murders building.

>> Wright is a guest star on the upcoming 3rd season of the Hulu murder Mystery playing alongside Steve Martin Martin Short and Selena Gomez and now. >> Now I do think it could get a little bit better. I had in the award-winning icon Meryl Street.

>> Martin Short and Steve Martin. Yeah, that’s Mount Rushmore. I mean, truly a hero worship. So to get to work with them was I mean, I still kind of can’t believe it solely night door. I’ve worked with her a couple times and she’s the

Greatest. And then when their street was on board just didn’t seem real. It’s still the same. What is that set like? Is it the way we hope it is? Which is funny and add Libyan all the things. Yeah, yeah, it’s just well. I’ve only worked on it a couple of days and,

You know, to just to be around them that dynamic. I mean, you’ve spent time with Steve Martin and Martin Short together. Yeah, it’s hilarious. It’s just a constant insults at to hear that just kind of to to, you know, to just hear them kind of knock each other. But there’s so much

Love between those 2 guys like you did door each other crazy about each other. And it’s just so fun to have a front row seat to all of that. It is fun to sit back and watch the thing that you watch from a distance up close like that. I mentioned,

I do. You still have this must be one of them sort of like a pinch me thing where you grew up watching. These guys looked up to me were symptoms you said and now they’re taking their cues from you in a scene. It’s s surreal.

Doesn’t even cover it. And it’s for one thing. I want to feel that way when you’re acting with somebody. I mean, when the script is kind of there and you’re you’re, you know, you’re acting, you’re in a scene with somebody. It’s a little easier. Just kind of forget about it because

You’re in the senior the character and you have a bit more freedom, your bit more relaxed, weirdly, too kind of interact with these people. It’s when, you know, you’re just kind of hanging out in the green light, waiting is doing a lighting set up and just, you know, talking and to just

Find myself and I’m saying regular conversation, you know, I witness to like what we’re talking about a comedy show happening, you know, spontaneously, right in front of it between just these brilliant guys get, you know, making jokes. It’s it’s it’s a it’s it nonstop. Pitch me moment. I’m pinching myself. Good luck tonight.

Good luck is a curse that did it. I know that they say don’t meet your heroes. I’ve met many of my heroes. I’d say almost all of them have exceeded my expectation. And I think if you want to have any kind of longevity, people don’t want to be

Put down or anything like that that people, people who are people who are pleasant to be around and if you are rude, people are. >> A little dimmer are. And >> once you stumble you might not get another shot because people just think, oh, that person said I would. So any

Actor would say it was starting off. It’s like, you know, you’re not bigger than anybody else in a bigger the project nobody cares about. You don’t buy and just show up and do your job. I’m so happy to hear you say that because it’s not my experience to the people who

Have succeeded. People with long deputy are not character there for the team. They lift up people below them to help them along. Yeah. And it’s also I think they have the the insecurity that they have had as sort of fallen away but with who they are, right. And they don’t feel like they

Have to do that. Yeah, you’re right with the I mean, we’ve seen it across industries where somebody slips up and no one is there to catch him because of the way they treated people, right? Yeah, it’s a good way to

Be. It’s just a good way to be also and life life is so hard. He wants to be around. Yes hits. I’m almost done with this. By the way of somebody would get hop to it and fill this up. Maybe I can finish this

Interview. Turn on the romantic music now to match up topped couple more drinks. Congratulations on and and can’t wait to see murders. Only murders. Thank you. Thanks for joining us. Thank you for putting into all of this work. By the way,

It was worth it. It I know you’re a busy guy. I mean, years and a lot of plates that you would come in to this bar. I skipped work this morning. >> So it’s okay. Was that as well? It certainly put me in. I can

>> Guys thanks for doing this are happy to see you told just got caught up last night and throughout the so for yes. So much fun, I’m watching it now and my wife of 1412 year-old wow so Steve taking back to the sort of genesis of

The show the idea for it where it came from at what point Marty enters that well it’s very hard for him may remember when I had this idea, but it was at least 10 years ago and it actually started because you dislike the tell the whole

Story. I was at a party with a very good friend of our Sandy gallon and send a gallon with a great guy fact both of them and he. He meant he was a manager he represented Dolly Parton and Frank Sinatra no he represented. Dolly will be >> share. >> And Neal

Arm-side and you know you know that’s what it could to that that this kind of memory it’s unbelievable what they did we meet. We do you do in a July 14th in 1985 is that true, yeah, absolutely it’s and I do have.

>> I you know, I thought I’m a huge under law the one joke and then will then we go back to your apartment can snip okay. I thought ahead H Sam, you know that is right where you where you can member. Yeah, right and I said to someone I think I

Have H Senate like Mary Lou. >> Member head. So I knew I didn’t haha. >> So I’m at a party at his house and we love this guy he was great in fact he suggested I was writing songs at the time I played one of the song he said Dolly Parton should be

Court that how he called her and she said yes, yeah, and Dolly Parton recorded one of my credit and so anyway so I’m at a party at his house we really like the guy and this 3 older Broadway actors there and Sandy came up to me said you know

What you want to write something for them and thought no that’s actually a good idea like you know, and so I started thinking about it and came up with this idea of 3 old guys who 10 years ago. Remember who live in the building. And

They’d like true crime and they decide that they would like to solve some crimes but because they’re older and tired. They would always all murders in the building and not going to go downtown so that’s where it came from, and then you know

One dad telling Martin the idea and you know you like the said, you know what what in the world. So haha so that’s how we thought maybe we can do this thing and that is that how you remember where you are said was

Marty did you have him in mind when you’re thinking through 3 actors in okay and then it just sort of drift, you know you don’t get. You think about how much work it isn’t everything. So I they asked me when I pitched it to Dan Fogelman and

He said would you do it be in that I wasn’t thinking of being a it all and I thought well, I’ll do that Marty does and then he signed up immediately in their work and then somebody had the brilliant idea to bring Selena Gomez well that’s I mean

That is really talk about my 14 year-old daughter that’s where the interest PS know we love you guys and my dogs to Selena Gomez is in it and boom that’s and by the way it’s such a perfect unexpected match. Yeah, you know, it’s like

There’s us doing our thing and then when the camera cuts comes to her it’s like it rests. Yeah, her face and her thinking it her internal acting it, it’s beautiful for the for the triangle of a performance. There is some family who lives in New York. There’s a real familiarity to the building

That served the app store and the in Sony and all those kind of mashed together and something that happens in New York where people live in a building together but they don’t really know each other and the person right on the other side of your wallet,

Maybe you never men right and here comes this event in the case of your show that brings them all together right and it’s because there are and these true crime podcast it’s such a great vehicle for because the greatest actors in the world living either less than just New York 2 great

Actors from but that the Mount of every time you cast any smaller role, a big role. In this series. Every actor is like. Why isn’t he a massive star in this city and the city has filled with its maze and actors. We’ve got great good.

Jane Lynch, Tina Fey yeah, yeah, staying staying or I don’t know if we win the not make the lakes incredible any runner in awe Nathan Lane, I would we would have scenes with them and we weren’t acting we just era. Nathan Lane is so unbelievable than your line and come up an

Eagle. Nathan, I mean haha so when the idea for Selena Gomez comes through you 2 guys I suspect are not terribly familiar with her music unless you want. I would yes so what did you think when you heard that name. Well, I thought it was kind of a brilliant idea because right

Away scene all generations brought instantly I thought it was a good idea and I never heard any other name beside Salinas that’s true. Yeah, there’s no other name, I know they probably have list you know there’s always but yes, but when they when it got to us it was only Selena

And we thought would you do it and then we we have one of those readings now with the addition she was hired. And we hung up and Martin I call the other is said she’s fantastic. Yes, she’s got the slight. Even people pick of us like kind of a New York accent,

She’s doing it her that’s her what she’s from Texas so probably not yeah, but she’s she’s got that there’s the live in a later episode at one point Steve says to her. I want you to be less me and she just look at this as I know you haha that

Was already been on the yeah yeah, you should you should watch or read the script and I don’t want to get other fish to fry haha she also has I think of the show but also I watch you guys do press together. She’s serving charming I roll

At the 2 apps Alou generally speaking live here they go again. It’s surprising. First of all the people say its regeneration get to that of course, yeah, it’s good with what you want I want to be up and talk to linger for a 29

Year-old no so there is that but I moist of using the word lingo kind of yeah I you know, I’m always surprised at what she shocked at last by because it’s always something of that really are shocked that that it’s kind of a fun shot in the arm, you know, like we just

Said something shocking and get out. She out shocked us by you know 10 Million. So it raises the obvious question do either or both of you listen in real life to these crime podcast because you play it well I do not I don’t know. I do.

And I’ve listened to a lot of crime pockets and watched a lot of true crime shows. And I think I know what you’re saying that that is sick. Well, that means the rest of the nation is sick to yes, but I like I like the solving part I find that I think the

Scientific solving includes and tracking down and cctv in fact even now because of this the show and watching the shows I’m always thinking just walked into my life thing what’s my alibi if something happened right now could I prove I was in my car,

Yes about the GPS and there’s a cctv camera away that. Well, there’s that I also what is your crime that you’re afraid I don’t know it could be anything are you planning anything not planning anything now at some other crime like God forbid

But I could always haha I would be absolutely for a suspect that replay you know my eye rolls at your holiday when you do. Yes, joke that were bought. So you see if you watch dateline and those kind of shows that deep into it.

So you’re really in it what did you read the news or so you heard the news. So are you principally objected to the crime podcast or just not interested, you know I just feel that there’s so much despair around that I just don’t want to hear but another

Person’s murder 101st of all why should you research a movie you’re working on. >> That would only get in the way going in blind. I am playing a director, I know the 5th yeah I’ve been on Broadway. Yes, you have it. you read the reviews and just were a 100% on rotten don’t

Know you’re and that really all because now some of the old really all show them. Well so what yeah you’re right to examine the double digits know we are honestly, you know we’ve had a long career in show business. But a hit is fantastic because

You know they’re rare, you know real hit is a very very rare thing has long been a showbiz they don’t it’s not like everything you put out as a hit and so it’s especially at this point in my whole point of my life, you know I remember

Seeing the Tonight Show once with Johnny and Tony Randall was on. And Johnny said he was like the 70’s he was doing the Odd Couple is now hit the sun. How long did you stay with the show and Tony said that’s the.

>> Dumbest question I have ever heard all stay with it as long as it isn’t here because hits a rare and it’s true. >> Do you guys, I mean this part of working together with covid talked about the show. But how much fun is it for 2

Buddies have known each other for 35 years to kind of hit the road together and promote and totally fi wouldn’t do it any other way, yes Lee. I toured with the band but we have we have good camaraderie to somebody we do that but basically I wouldn’t do it.

No I think the only thing you can really control and in a work situation is the hanging in job is as you can have the greatest the experience making a movie in the bombs and the critics hated so the only thing that you can control is you have fun

While doing it. And Stephen I you know we do shows live shows together but we also have a great dinner, the night before and we have great glasses of wine afterwards and discuss it with the band. That’s the fun of it.

And you’ve been doing as I said for 35 years since you met doing the 3 amigos what people asked me to say what’s your favorite movie that you ever made and I say well I don’t know because here’s why there are 3 things to a movie how much fun you had doing it

Wasn’t a hit. And is it any good. Right and when those things land together. It’s spent that’s but sometimes you can love a movie just get such a great ride making it right. And was that the case with 3 amigos was an instant for you 2

Guys. It was not an instant hit know, I know this relationship because it feels like you know, we’ve got a long instantly. >> Instantly all 3 of us did and and again you make a movie or you’re on location for months and sometimes you never see those people again. So you make

A conscientious effort I will keep up with that and it was mutual and that also we got lucky because we did other movie see a father of the bride want to that’s true. Prince of Egypt, Prince of Egypt. >> But we’re already friends by them but but but I’d say father

Of the brides really put us. You know comedy frame of mind, you know to be friends. was your first movie yeah, no new SNL and we write were first movie in the blood stream so that was your first movie so what was it like to walk in with Steve Martin who is

Already Steve Martin Chevy Chase’s or Chevy well it was a little bit into maybe they’re very very nice to me they’re very you know we had to play 3 close friends. So I had to the first couple weeks do an impersonation of someone really relaxed

And but they made it very easy immediately bonded through laughter and Scrabble and be before you knew it, you felt he’s at ease in like this is a great thing to be doing and the legend has it your first conversation or maybe one of

The first when you came to the House to get the script. It was a day get Stephen so the relationship was set for ever. >> Yes, you’re right on the day. Yes, I I went to Steve’s house to pick up a script for 3 amigos his you know he rode

With Lorne Michaels and minute. And I walked in to Steve’s House. >> And his old House in Beverly Hills, I looked around and there was a Bekaa, so there was a Hopper and I said how did you get this rich because I’ve seen your work. And you said

Know toward the end of the meeting, I said the great great meeting you I expected more charisma haha but it was kind of the natural instinct and it was overwhelming, really did say that yeah and I kind of remember my reaction which was

Kind of curious side, I know is this you know that’s a daring thing to say to someone you’ve never met now and then and then you sort of like am I going with the news or am I and you know it was a comedy comedy. We just we love hanging out with comedians

Because I think there’s a. >> Thank God I wasn’t from Ireland or you would have said have you ever thought of going to Europe. >> Haha so you’re you’re from and your family go back to our own. You know, I love that taking a trip to Europe.

>> But that seems to be that first moment form the basis for your the foundation at least for your friendship if you watch your tour. If you watched the netflix special even the 2 of you acting in only in order to I mean I’m sure you have

Lifelong friends. Oh, yeah, and a big connection has been humor that’s it. I think it says that sure absolute but I would say like your I’m guessing you probably have friends in the business to do the same thing as you report with the yeah

Because you know what it is absolutely we have that with comedians of all stripes, yeah, you know, but there’s also something about the person you’re comfortable with enough that you can insult them constantly. >> Oh yeah, that means really no other we’re often asked do

We ever go too far do we ever have to apologize. And it’s never. >> You mentioned father of the bride when you guys do that 9130 year anniversary coming up, but that’s crazy. Obviously a great movie great script was great characters. But you never

Could have imagined how well it would do and commercially and through time and yeah, I always thought of what your questions to be a wait no go ahead bucket. I’ve always thought this you know we did a remake. Another doing another remake and I at the time I thought this movie

The subject will be remade through time as the Times change because so universal subject a father and his daughter getting married, I mean what could be more fundamental so I already knew we were they were headed for another remake and probably another remake up to that

Because times change in that, but the core heart of it will always remain, but it’s also perfect title. Yeah, it’s like first wives Club you knew that had to be is the right side. And how did you shape and create Frank one of the great characters in movie history. Well.

You heard, heard. Yeah, I heard it and why are it well, you know it was written that way that that when they meet Frank there that Diane Keaton, Kimberly Williams mother daughter would understand, but Steve couldn’t but I stand and so it’s symbolized his isolation from

The process and so we just did a million takes variations and and the director and producer little apprehensive about this idea too because it was a sincere film and this is this heightened character but I kept thinking as long as I didn’t win come to the camera and say aren’t I

Funny we’d be fine because and then I went to a wedding after we should stop shooting, I will tell you who will tell you that and it was a big fancy wedding with a wedding planner and he had his initials break on his shoes. I miss that haha

So you know you can’t life is broader than a character was it based on anything you’ve seen knows the kind of person. Yeah, right and see what did you think when that movie exploded the weight that I’m in here’s what actually what I thought because I’ve watched

Movies come out of movies that I didn’t and then they’ll be a massive hits it Christmas or something like that other other people’s homes and when that came out and opened just before Christmas and it was doing so well and building about oh it’s my turn.

There you go felt it was just us really yeah. answer, but why do you both think this relationship works so well. Steve what is it about Marty Marty was about Steve there’s definitely a yin and the Yang thing that goes on here, but why do you think this is endured this friendship in

This professional partnership, you know one thing I say is you know first of all we don’t talk every day it’s not like. It got calm are you know what you need when we talk I don’t necessarily listen to a phone that. And

So there’s that but we have other lives are you know this is like a fun thing we get a little weird, you know we get along and humor level I don’t know and you know humor it’s very superficial I mean you can joke and we can joke and we can joke without

Ever getting to the core of up here in fun like I said never say to Marty you know real important. Well no you would if you really thought of that but I don’t think I think that we both personally work very similar.

>> Leave them in a very we like it or were loosed. >> Happy set joking all that and it makes us better so there’s that and then why else are we friends, I think it’s very hard thing to explain this like ask any friends that have has more money and that’s

A seductive say he’s like a to me like an older brothers, older brother haha what do you think it’s so funny about Steve. Why is he so great as a comedian. Oh my God, I mean nothing no, I mean it’s you always feel self-conscious story but in 1980, I didn’t know Steve and

I’m watching the Grammys Steve comes out to present the best. Our the year. And he’s entails and the shirt studs and no pants boxer underwear garters up to here and he makes no acknowledgement of that the audience is hysterical. And he starts reading the nominations

And by the 3rd nominations, a little Bowman comes out running with a pair of pence ahead Steve look Cinemas says well it’s about time and then he puts the pants on and continues to read and I thought that is the most brilliant

Joke I would pay a Gill Yun dollars if I could have done that. So I’m not even know that so I think his mind is hilarious and he’s deeply kind you know I think if you’re that talented, but a bit of a bit of a there would be no relationship.

You know, they wouldn’t be. I find you know first of all we just have a of we’re going to talk ourselves out of a friendship. That’s what’s going to happen. Yeah, no beaches have a kind of ease but in terms of his comedy, whatever look at his old specials and things I I

Hope that’s how Ray J that I can’t believe you’re doing that and the years and that big. All by the way my head, but they know you were bored pieces. And I find the character is a completely so big Jackie Rogers juniors. Haha it’s pop star, yeah, by about about Jimmy Jimmy,

I mean you’ve been yeah, I’m sure I’m shocked that he gets away with. I mean it’s so devastating through the person you’re interviewing. >> Yeah, but they were all yeah, a friend when you’re playing a video so you know, I know, but when I I’m my

Favorite lines was to Mel Brooks what I said. >> What’s your big day for the Nazis. And he said what’s my big beef, what’s my big beef, I don’t know I think the ruled. So we’re really so that and you have a favorite character of Steve’s through the years.

>> Our favorite special moment that stuff I think Roxanne is my ultimate fate, I mean I love you know the first for comedies and I love her but Roxanne seem to combine it all and great great acting. >> So I would say that your high water mark was a long

Time, yeah, yeah killed for you to hit that mark. That’s why legally murders of the building. Yeah haha. >> November I was said to him is like the 90’s tonight is that my cottage, let’s do all my my 2 sons and all of their

Friends are obsessed with the best of Steve Martin SNL on DVD Steve, a. >> Is a reserved June’s. >> Back haha but it was with the weekend is a stud R a haha. >> You said mardy to be on the funny and all this connection

Is that Steve was a great friend to you when Nancy passed away right and that meant the world to you to have somebody who you had somebody last with be there. If you want to honor him for doing something great for member. What did that mean

To you to have much to us. Well I you know listen to everybody, what yeah, you know a lot of yeah, but but of course it was magnificent to have those kind of friends and you know it’s tough situation tell you Marty has a lot of

Friends and there’s a lot of demand on his time because he gets you know invited to parties that they because he’s really fun at a party and I told us before, but I say if I’m hosting a dinner party, and I’m going to invite you know 3

Or 4 couples. Whatever and I invite Marty you know somebody else and somebody else and that Marty says I’m sorry I can’t come. I canceled apart is that has not really what’s the point well, yeah, guys thanks so much congratulations. Thank you willow it’s a blast. Thanks man.

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You just going to cook off I will I will definitely win soft. Welcome to today all day. >> Okay. The circumference or believe it or not. This was my dining table. Is that you do? >> It is true. You really are scrapped Yahoo. Scarlet Johansen has been scrappy from the start

And now in business with the launch of her skin care line the outset. cream. Great. The Collin just I couldn’t understand that. That’s how it’s come to mean. But let’s start if we can with Asteroid City. Sure, which is an amazing Wes Anderson film,

Beautiful to look at as all of his stuff is. >> It’s my more Todd Johansen plays Mids Camel. The 1950’s movie star forced to quarantine in the fictional desert town of Asteroid City. >> Your fairy good in the one that ramp in the brothel in

Niger and up to Trish. And you’re very I mean, maybe my for the character of I don’t know why nobody else like to >> So what is that phone call like when Wes is not only doing what in the movie but wrote a part for you?

>> It’s like a courier dream goal on definitely. I was very excited to read if script in its entirety of his which I never had the chance to do. And it was in the middle of COVID the right in the middle of COVID. Some was not

Expecting to get any calls about work. I’d sort of, you know, just kind of had taken of if a pause, I guess it was it was it. It was a time that felt all over the place. And so I yeah, I read the script and I I

Play a few different characters in this film. So I plan actor who’s playing an actor who’s also preparing a play. So it has its. There was a lot to discuss and to wrap my head around. >> I don’t like the way that I looked at this and when and if

You have like we’re doomed, you can we are. >> As with every Wes Anderson movie, there may be no point exactly and asking what it’s about because it’s kind of an experience. But how do you describe this film, the people who are thinking about going to see it?

>> The film is really sort of exploration in existentialism. It’s I think a film that’s needed. It’s really reflective of where West is that I think in life and career year, you know, the fact that it was written and develop during the quarantine time is definitely baked in there. It’s very self reflective.

And I think it’s also a celebration of creativity and the pneumatic circus that actors screen around themselves. You know, that is something that I think it comes up in my son’s work. A lot that real fun is in celebration of that environment. >> So how do you describe the Wes Anderson experience?

It’s so cool to look at, obviously and fun to watch all of his films are. But on the other side of it as an actor, what does that mean? How is it different from other things you’ve done? >> Well, I I think Wes is love that pneumatic circus is

Really, you know, it’s also represented in Houghton, the environment that he creates on set. We were very isolated. I’m in a town called Chun Chun, which is in Spain in agricultural area, you know, really let never left. Our are compound. We’re we’re all staying. And

This whole world was created on a watermelon farm. So all the earth and all the U.S. all the mountains and everyone brought in built this practical sent in the middle of nothing and, you know, just agricultural land. And so it just it was very surreal, but also so magical. I mean,

You would is so unique and never experience any I’d seen doing theaters may be the closest thing that I would you could describe it to liken it to is it was it’s such a beautiful family that he that he surrounds himself with the aim of, you know, family he chooses.

>> So let’s talk about edge specifically. When you read or on the page, did you get her right away? Would you think about the character? >> I I actually do read a couple of times. My character Midge is she is a, you know, movie star. She’s be loved it. She is kind

Narcissistic and self-involved. I’m in. I think a way that’s kind of its very alluring, any manic. And she’s aware that she’s constantly being Washington. That’s just an ingredient in her life that’s always there. And and she doesn’t mind that at all. And she’s,

You know, I we looked it just what actor is. I could kind of hang my hat on. And you know, of that era, whose careers could we emulate? And I think that indeed this was the lead both liked. And I I just love her or

I love for whole spirit and and and vulnerability or strength or grounded nurse like she feels to be, you know, very a frantic. And and so that’s who we kind of base run. >> So the this role came to a complicated time for you as

Well, to say the least. It was a it was initially that complicated. Initially it was. >> But wide open in great. But as we waited for the window of time to shoot because of COVID on the regulations, you know, I I I like pregnant and I I was very happy to be

Pregnant. But I I knew that, you know, I have this obligation to shoot this film in. And nonetheless, I at some point have to tell us that I was probably because I thought and I guess this could mean these are going to push

For as long as they needed to and and ensure West Ash. And he was so excited that I was pregnant. And how long do you think you’re going to post it to put this birth? And I said, I don’t know, maybe like I guess 8 weeks are some things. On my 8 week,

Postpartum date, I was flying to Spain and with my young a week old baby and Colleen. And and so that was another added piece to the experience that was. So it was wonderful. And it was so wonderful. It was it was challenging. But it was also

Completely unexpected. And I you know, I felt so fortunate and grateful to be able to to still be able to participate. You know, and then I got to bring my infant baby to the table in could be held by Adrian Bruni and on the phone when Bryan Cranston in.

>> Everybody else. The stories he will have early as Babysitters. All Academy Award winners. Haha. >> Johansen own story begins in New York’s Greenwich Village where she grew up with dreams of starting in the Broadway musical. She saw with her mother. She began to audition and landed her first film. But just

9 years old when Rob Bryan North, after working step as a child back Johansen was thrust into a don’t start by her performance alongside Bill Murray in the claims 2003 movie Lost in Translation. >> Just don’t know what I’m supposed to be.

>> I forgot how young you are. We made that 17 years. Your high school kid. Yeah. And thrust into this world was that hard thing to have, though, that many eyes on you and to be treated now as an adult effectively after that movie? >> I mean, I think just being

That age is heard any way. I felt like I was at a crossroads at that time because they, you know, lost in translation had come out and girl with a pearl earring. And I did some very exciting work. But then I felt like the

Work that was out there for me anyway was not it just it was sort of an inspired. And I didn’t know. I thought I can’t I don’t want to do work. That’s an inspiring. And I would rather do another some other thing. >> She found the fire again on Broadway, starring and winning

A Tony in the 2010 revival of a View from the Bridge. >> What sort of bring that full circle, the song and dance in the performance in your Living Room with your family and not only to come to Broadway and Arthur Miller Putt to win a

Tony award that must have been thrilling. It was throwing are. >> Production so incredibly received in feel totally welcome. My this and these community. I admired for my entire life and feel that thrill of being on stage every night in the unexpected, you know, have that it’s just so

Exciting. Thanks to feel like a life, you know. >> And then it’s the same year. I think it’s the same year as the play that Black widow, Iron man to come along, right, right by twist of fate on this and figure in the Marvel universe at this

Crossroads really don’t know what I’m doing to win a Tony. And now you’re in a Marvel movie and then a bunch that came after that, right? What if the Marvel movies due to your careers in your life just in terms of like joining this world that people are so invested in so many

People are aware of and watch it? Yeah. How much fun was that to be a part of? >> I didn’t knew whether I would be accepted by the, you know, by the massive fan base that was already there. It was so early days in that genre mean the way that it was

Then just the beginning. I mean, you on the set of vendors going to say they’re going to be having an amazing time with all these incredible actors. And yet we don’t. And this could be you need awful. It’s so crazy. You have to remember going there’s a new warning to God.

I mean, you eat this like rich Playboy ad turning robot guy. I’m a Russian spy is just like this is recipe for disaster money that’s been frozen in ice incomes. That was like but then. when Johansen is not on set. And she’s here in the offices

Of the outset, the skin care company she co-founded just over a year ago. >> This is our like Best. So that sort of trio it’s our cleanser are serum and are dealing with stress are just realizing I don’t do enough.

>> I have known night cream all the time. You need to get more serious about my career. I know. >> So what compelled you to take on this challenge since I was probably 12, 13 years old and struggled with acne and when I was younger is all about service, stripping away your

Scan and, you know, basically resurface your entire use. And at some point, I you know, it’s like I have to kind of just stopped everything and just try something else, which was just using very clean moisturizing products and stopped like stripping everything away. And that’s

When my skin completely transformed. So is it true that Colin is a big proponent of the eye cream? Yes, that’s his thing calling with our eye cream connoisseur. I never used eye cream before and calling uses it every day. And so I thought, well, one since, you know, was during COVID have so

Many people that tested on my come became or our eye cream expert and an I got to switch to the outset. I agree and say, look, sprays never looked better. Haha, you fall. He is. He’s like the aging. It’s very annoying.

>> Look at who you’re doing it all and with a toddler. And it’s all very impressive. >> I mean, I’m sure that I’m much like the oven on or >> The story of Nile for its life is one of an Irish teenager thrust to worldwide fame as a member of the biggest

Group on the planet. Warren and his bandmates in one direction flew to the top of the charts, filling stadiums around the world and selling more than 70 million albums. >> I remember thinking I just into the craziest thing that could possibly happen this.

>> And he was not certain about what was waiting on the other side of that dizzying phenomena. >> A scary prospect, obviously coming off the back of a van. I just have keep going. I want to make music and trust. >> That trust has paid off in a successful solo career for and

Latest album is called the show a record created when he finally was forced to slow down. >> Summer of 2020. Take me back to that time for you see, and you’re trying to put out new music. You just had your second album came out in March of that year. Sure. Yeah.

And you’re getting ready to go on a Tour Morse. Everything is canceled you so if you don’t have your instruments, all my gear was locked away. We’re just about to go on tour and not not April. Oh, my God, tires. And that my house are

All boxed up in a lock-up somewhere. Ready to go to the first show. I was just me and the the pan-am. >> And the House. >> So when you sat down at the piano, were you doing that to start to write a new album or was that just something to

Surpass the time and get through? This is our moment. >> I was kind of just like newly anyway, you know, you just going to sit down there and play around seeing some of the day, some cards and hope for the best. And then if it doesn’t come of this income,

That’s what I want to roll up. Some of the first couple of lines, Miller, it’s come out like maybe this is the sign that and this is maybe this is the start of a record. >> However, the show is titled Let’s Start There. What does that mean? What is the show?

>> That didn’t mean anything until I wrote the song to show the American this and some the show is basically me saying how grateful they should fields for everything because join the pandemic. We can lost all of that control the way they like the as humans. The show then became a

Metaphor for for life in my head, like, you know, the different acts throughout. And then straight ones that are not on the realized aren’t what theirs a time for actors and no, that title provokes salts. You know, that make up the difference spokes of the way of life.

That’s kind of where it started from. There’s a at a waiting at certain some of the subject matter is heavy. Despite the serve, some of pop sound to some of it. Anyway. Is that fair to say? Yeah. Big 3rd for there’s there’s a waiting list to it. I’m in a different way than

My previous stuff like that tend to be the guy that writes the that the breakup songs and the litter to mask was called heartbreak. Weather and offense been not gay, but and there’s no heartbreak. The subject matter changes and what was going on in the world.

I just got into new relationships. That was good. But then there’s the other side of things were the weight of the world. That was 20 tiny. And the time I was writing down notes, you know, that’s what was going on the planet. I tend to try and rice

With that way. But my songs always seem to have some sort of like a silver lining to them, attend the training of like a star. Does this sound that try and make them have been a vocalist of the bench? But I hope somewhere along the line.

>> The final guy. Yeah, I think it because I’m a girl. But the 29 year-old for and grew up in Mullen Gar I are about an hour outside of Dublin. He was raised and bands like the Eagles simply would match and taught himself to play the guitar. >> Property start planning to

As for the 10 level, maybe was a tire in the house that I was given to get as a gift to someone and that ever played it. So like this little nylon strings, kind of spotty, she type guitar and they’re just sitting around

Was at the start of like the broadband di, no connection. So whatever was not used in the limelight. Haha, I was like sitting on you, too, a number of cities, but that is they never had a guitar lesson aren’t like this. I would sit on YouTube. Watson was I liked.

I think I think overs on the menu tonight also ended like set their fingers really on the frats, wow. And that they say were their fingers were. So that is that I couldn’t tell you more. But 6 cords. >> At 16 and with no formal training, foreign was convinced

By his high school French teacher to audition for the British singing competition, The X Factor. I think I’m prepared. I think he came with the wrong song. You know, as good as you feel you despite a rocky start, the judges put more in. I later teaming him up with Louis Tomlinson, Zayn

Malik, Liam Payne and Harry Styles. 2 former one direction. They finished in 3rd place. But that was just the beginning. What makes you beautiful? >> But number one, first week and then there was a bit of noise around Europe over and over to Europe. I was like

Thousands of screaming girls in the streets of Amsterdam, Milan, Berlin, Place like this is like what’s going on? We’re just like a network TV show a couple weeks ago. And then then it sort of a nice start to come from over here. And then it just snowballed. And that split snowballed very fast.

The rest is history. So how does a teenage boy and you were boys? How do you begin to wrap your head around what’s happening? You come from a humble place. You’ve got your family and friends. I mean, so much to all of a sudden the streets are filled with people screaming your name.

How do you begin to cope with that ever was just in a state shocked the whole time. Looking at the first billboard in Times Square to Times Square. See not movies. You know, there’s always a bit of lake. Where are we off? How how do we do this?

And that was what was attracted a lot of people to the Biden. I think it was very clear that it was 5 working class, do collar kids. We’re just the deer in the headlights and are now like these world wide non people. Remember, we was all this,

Our team, our bubble around us. And we just kind of when from place to place worldwide and just kind of went along with it. If you’re looking in mostly looked crazy and on everyone’s going to biggest fine, we’re just kind of just 11, great time. And just we always used to say

Not normal. People do not normal job, which is a good out not to have. One of the stadium tours is called where we are tour because we always just yet. Yeah. And because we’re just always like, oh, that’s every time the EU countries up just

Like looking at each other is gone is not on stage like and that Leifer the Garmin R, You know, you have a moment every now and then this sick. It’s nuts. I feel that’s never got old. I love to keep that wonder about you. Anybody who knows.

You says there are obvious an extraordinary artist that you you’ve kept your normal that, you know, you can sit and have a pint and jump in there and sing karaoke. Haha, is that just your foundation, your family, your friends just keeping grounded in all of that? You have to have the

Right people around you and keep friends and family tell us. And and on that any infiltrations or anything like that happen. And then just that, just be yourself think people can people can see through the BS sometimes as you look back on

It now, these years later, does it feel like a dream or something or how do you look at it now? It’s a I think I think I think that was what was important about the pandemic. A me, too. It was, as I said, it was the

First time inside. Still with that comes reflection and just actually sitting think sitting just go in life. What just happened for last 10 years as the first time? I’ve actually at that, I think about the achievements in the tours and the fact that I can say that what they like 2 years

Of stadiums is just not not many people can say that all in one of the most humble, I say that so having a period to dislike, sit back and be like Mike, I if is if it feels like it’s like a separate life now

That I’m older and a bit, you know, solve the world so much or not, it was meant to have a wiser like a good outlook on things. Looking back. I didn’t lose the plot on the way to a Hollywood horror story. Right? Haha.

>> Warren has impart some of that wisdom during his first season as a coach on the voice where he won the competition with singer Gina Miles. You are. >> Unbelievable. How much fun is that that for you? Spin. Great age of nervous going into it. You know, having come from

A show like a like that, I want to go back into it. Something about I’ve never meant to hurt anyone before, but it’s true. It was the best decision I made. It’s so much fun. I bet you have incredible empathy for the people on that side of it having been there before for

Sure. Yeah. I know exactly what it’s like to stand there and they have your future and some famous ball times. You know, yeah, the and the fairness to do with the future. >> With 3 albums under his belt for in has shown he can stand alone away from the boys in the band.

>> I’ve learned. And I just I just have to trust that it’s the biggest thing for me was a new at the right time. How good was the next question? Fun base that I was certainly something there’s a fan base there to receive and some shape or form, you know, some people to

Hang on to it and some people want whatever. Maybe I just want to kind of trust that the right song and fires. Thirdly, something, some people have been there to take it on. How long was the last? Again, we don’t ever know. You had the

Advantage of a built-in fan base, as you said. But also it seems to me the challenge of some people want to do is put you in that box is that their boy benders. That was a moment in time. You have to prove yourself it for sure. Yeah.

I think there’s there’s always a level of trying to prove yourself. I get so competitive out there. It’s not easy to just go in the right song release it just be convinced that it’s just going to other because that’s never a guarantee ever still not.

But there’s definitely a another month, the right and from the best foot forward here, try and give everything a kind of performances be myself and injury news. And the rest is just like up to the people. It’s a great thing about music. These is that ours and

People’s hands them make the decisions on what the stick around or not. And then hopefully you’re a good song here. And there there’s been a long journey to I’m doing it for a visit 14 years now. I really hope to stop anytime soon. You know, I think you’re

In good shape, my friend. It >> And the good to see you my friend, hey, Willie you are the number one brand ambassador for the show Sunday today. Well because I love my mug, you’ve got them almost brought it because we are close to my house and I walked over I was

Going to bring that it’s in the dishwasher what’s the past 18 months been like for the time with you know what the pandemic actually for me has been okay. I have been able to work during the entirety of the pandemic of which I feel very grateful and then I’ve got

To spend an inordinate amount of time with my side that I never would have and that’s been frankly incredible, especially as a single parent to be able to really I try to spend as much time obviously as possible with them, but I feel an extra

Weight on me as a single parent or to really let him see that I’m around as long as that know you’ve talked publicly and privately about wanting to be a dad sometime down the road and now you are yeah, how is the reality been compared to those expectations. It’s actually been

And easy right so far, I mean it’s been you know what it’s been all right I thought that it was going to be completely overwhelming and I actually feel like he has been trying to make it easy on me a little

And he’s just he’s a good guy he’s very nice, very sweet man bit. he starting he’s becoming a 3 nature is that. Yeah, yeah, so that just started last weekend. And so that was interesting we’re supposed to have a movie night Friday night. I was so excited about it.

But he then started to show his will and I have to take the moving away and guess who was the real loser that may because I was then screwed on a Friday night I was like what am I right now you get 2 hours to fill exactly I was very I was

Actually more upset than haha movie night away so I’m not sure what lesson was taught what’s he into like in terms of movies. But says you know what does not watch much TV or movies just until this summer. So what is really into right

Now assessing the street great which is great and he will I let him watch it on the weekends, it’s history. No TV during the week. And I will say I screen an inordinate amount of housewives and he’s always coming up tonight asked. Well I’m watching and I’m like no. You’re not watching that

You’re not watching this. He saw me grilling Erika Jayne on the housewives for them. The other days like Daddy Daddy, I’m like. Yes, but now so it sounds like you’ve. You guys have had all this bonding time in and being a single parent like you say has its challenges. Yeah, how do

You navigate that part of it. Just one day at a time and luckily, I have several jobs, but all of them allow me to be in and out of by all day. So weirdly I am almost always around for breakfast,

Lunch and dinner with him so that to me is a great a bit that’s a great amount of continuity for him where we get to see each other now New York is something in a sense and I’m anxious to be part of the fall.

And so I think he’s I keeps and you know my show is going back to live with an audience. So I keep saying that is going to work that is going to work and so we brought him to the clubhouse last week because I wanted him to see what that

There was a place that was work right and he quite enjoyed it. I forgot that the shelves are basically all toys right and he’s like this this he wanted to take like that’s taped out can not actually don’t touch. Julie Andrews te that yes,

You can still get to Julie Andrews te not a funny that you say that as the cameras implant was trying to get to like this is not the way it was in some work, your parents are big part yours private story, but also your public story well like of

They’re on the show and the audience loves them. Yeah, they seem to be thoroughly enjoying this right that you’re on they are but that the ride that they are most enjoying is the that I threw that at 50 years old of giving them another

Grandchild, yeah because this was the kid that no one saw coming. Even as the years went on I would say you know what I still want to have a kid my mom would say it’s not happening like really okay, you’re going to you’re

Flying to La for a party right now what are you going to have a kid so I proved them all wrong. And it’s a great one of the great joys of having my son is watching his relationship with his grandparents who are well into their 80’s and who

Face time with him every night at 10. And how lucky, I feel that way to about my parents that your son will have a relationship but that will know them the grandparents child relationship is so magical and I remember great times with my

Grandpa and since leaping over there and they give your kids something that you can’t. And it’s it’s just so exciting, it’s sweet that that’s when the has been incredible side benefit from this entire journey. couple of times, yeah, so what was it like for you to because

We all experiences in one form or another to do that show over zoom because so much of that anyone who’s been in that clubhouse the crackle of the back and forth right. >> It was weird. It was highly efficient which I love yeah,

We’re doing the show at one 30 in the afternoon and we will be done at one 55, then you can go about your day. So it fell fate for a long time. And I was doing my own makeup to Harlem results and really not seeming to care for

A very long time what I looked like going on television. I didn’t monitor my what I was putting out there too much too little over a problem, yeah, everything didn’t care just was like once I did the show from my I was doing it for my office for a

Big chunk of time and had left the Grateful Dead. The entire show. And they called me after the show and said we’re detecting music set. I left the Grateful Dead channel on for the whole show like we’re going to. No one notices and I

Believe no one notice so it was the yeah, I mean my show is already home. Yeah as it were, but it was real >> Scotch tape I think I sort of sympathize with that we all got a little too comfortable with our studio. Yeah, we’re

Wearing on the bottom left like iced up yeah who was wearing anything on the bottom not a lot that which to shorts and put Bob, I wore I was barefoot I wore. I mean I did it out in

The Hamptons for 4 months and I was in I I jump in the pool of them being a wet bathing suit. So I’m going to skip the makeup today, it’s hot like I mean, yeah I was a runaway train. So I was around a wage when you’re in that studio you

Created such a space. What is the magic of that show you why you think it’s taken off the way it has I think people respond to the authenticity of the show who I was I I think that God knows I. >> Screw up every episode, the audience, maybe you know the

Audience is drinking the gas or drinking, it’s a loose atmosphere. If we still a cake on the floor, it’s about the case we follow the action and I think it will respond to idea that they don’t know what’s going to happen to

Guests can wind up eating each other and we’ve got gas too. Literally you can see them on the air that they each other. And the audience then starts, you know, chiming Ryan right spot. >> You know what else is true about that show it’s a little

Like Howard Stern where by stepping into that studio. You’re a green to something. >> You are submitting to my Tom flurry and by messiness and you are now going you are on the witness stand right about your life right and so. >> Here we are and the thing that we’re a publicist. Another

Show is that you can ask about that right is that seem to apply and your show well we don’t free interview our casts wrenches great yeah, so that we can you know it’s less trouble to get into but that mean there are times when people come in and say listen. Yeah, I don’t

Want to talk about the fact that I a Rex y or Z. One of the genius move to have as you can put it on the audience so and so right sold its true nature of this and I don’t want anyone to leave unhappy. So casting this huge,

You often put me on with housewife yes we live it’s great high and low. We like begins all all the big guy you know we like yes before yeah, it’s amazing it’s it’s it’s it’s the most fun you can have on TV getting the audience back

Was a big deal. And now that the audience back now with the audience is back in the guests are there. It’s what we’re just to be doing. Yeah. This is why we do it so I’m very happy to be back. Let’s talk about litter every day 365 quotes from women,

I love yes, what’s the idea behind it. >> The idea is just basically in the title I want to this is a book that you can look at every day have a little bit of a splash of because later thrown on you every day I love

Women have shaped me for my entire life from my mom, 2 mentors to the House lives to divas and icons and so this is a quote today by a woman that I love I love a lot of women and they’ve said a lot of things and talk about high and low.

We’ve got the dominant some la La tour ended badly too. >> Kamala Harris, I mean it’s all over the place, it’s funny you say that I’m going to jump ahead because I thought this captured you perfectly on one page we have a quote from and Frank yes, I turn the page Countess luann.

>> Thank you that’s Andy Cohen in a nutshell it absolutely is 2 women that I respect immensely and we’ll have different things to offer the but that would nonetheless really it’s this is the world that we live in. >> We lead off the book with a quote from the great Evelyn

Cohen I’m out her quote is get a hold of yourself and E. >> Yes, well as the context of that well that is a quote that my mom has used over the years that renders needs slapped in the face. Get a hold of yourself and E I will quite

Literally get ahold of myself and come back to Earth. It is much, it’s in our arsenal of you’re a runaway train, you’ve got to get it together basically it’s very simple sense of that from the animal Evelyn Cohen, but one that. I response it feels like it’s something you heard for a long

Time. Yeah I have yes she doesn’t show she whips it out. When when she needs. So Evelyn Collins, the biggest star in this book agree, yes. >> Huge day here Dolly Parton but Donna what’s the thrust of the kind of person you want to highlight

How did you put a list together you know what just women I love yes, strong powerful women with something to say so that could be anyone that has touched me in my life. I mean I have a quote from my friend lies and there that I love that is only

Go when you’re a hammer. Everything is a nail. So there are quotes in here so live by and there are quotes in here to laugh by yes and I put a little commentary on every page of my own relationship with the one with the women or the quote,

Or just some thought I’m having yeah, I mean I just love the there to make the list that you go from Jack to Joe Biden on stage you absolutely like that. Joe Biden that’s the beauty to of our beacons of inspiration there you go, yeah there you

Go. And is it true that hoda kotb gave you the idea for this book currently she encourage you to write it. >> Hose didn’t just give me the idea I basically just one out she had come out with 2 quoted a box yeah. I was I happened to

Be coasting with during the public Haitian of both leave so I spent a fair amount of time chilling Hodes bucks and I thought to myself what I did one of these, but put my own spin on it. So then kind of halfway through writing yet.

Fees times her and said I need to make sure this okay with you like just another one of these come you know, because I do maybe in the fall is this OK. >> So I can write your book and write your book that’s couple

Great quotes from. Yeah, it is and the book asked question, nice tribute and you mentioned the knowledge yes, well, I mean example figure she inspired this book completely who in this book would you like to have on watch what happens live. We’ve not

>> In that book wouldn’t I like to lot of yeah, no I mean I yet had one. think Michelle obama show obama has died every show but my what’s going on the show obama did the chew when it was on. I think Michelle obama has been on CSI I’m not kidding really I

Think so or NCI or something like that. Truly there almost isn’t a show that she hasn’t been a lot except my so maybe I should feel good about that. OK so Michelle is a big get. She’s she’s one of the out there that has never been on.

>> She does not it’s never been in the clubhouse know she’d be star for you to say yeah, yes, yeah, I love my ladies. So let’s talk about housewives got 15 years, you know what people watch seasons, 16 promoter of Orange County and we feel fantastic yeah, they got the assignment.

Let’s go back to like 2005 when you’re cooking this up yeah, you never could have imagined what was going to come but what did you think it would be back well in the best. When it started it seemed like a sociological time capsule of this group of women.

>> Who were kind of nouveau reach in a gated community in Orange County who spoke to their children in a way that none of us had ever seen were they were just different and it was while desperate housewives was airing which is how we got the name real

Housewives because these were the real housewives and it was a play on real because of course much of them was it. Now season 2 of the housewives of Orange County we found that she did he was getting separated. And that was when I leaned in, and said oh my God, this is now

A soap opera. This is not slam dunk and this could go on did I think I’d be sitting with you 16 years later talking about it, absolutely not am I thrilled by it, yes, they have given me and many others inordinate amounts of pleasure I would not be here

Where I am today without them and that’s one of the reasons why I thought it was important to include them in this book and why it is a mix of high and low because there are things that they’ve said that really ring true to me a lot of other

People that I think are worthy of a closer look. >> And I don’t think we can even call a guilty pleasure anymore. So many people watch a pleasure across the Fletcher from people across the spectrum. Yes, so how is the show and the of all the years you’ve got Orange County New

York, New Jersey. And you’ve grown and shown different people and different cultures and different cities. Yeah, I mean you know it has of all we have and I have another book out on the imprint called not all diamonds and rose which is a world

History of the real housewives in its entirety and comes out, I don’t like 2 weeks and it’s great. >> And you see the evolution of and I think there was an evolution weigh in. I think it was a moment where people started to really

Realize they were on TV and they could make a moment and there are some moments that were made that were in crew credible on television that we thought how authentic is that that this woman is taking her leg off and Le Cirque and throwing it to make a point.

Maybe not any credible for now finale first season I think 6 of New York House. But we didn’t bring a viva back the next year because we kind of thought where do we go from here right you throw your leg and lists are

Where does the story take us that we could possibly go we’ve been this to yeah to the mountain top. So so I think that we try to we try to lean into the real we try to you know go away from the performative but this is a show now all these

Years later where people know they’re on television. We’re in the middle of 2 incredible. Moments, you know, Beverly Hills, something happened with Erika Girardi one of our housewives before you know as the cameras were rolling her husband was implicated in a horrible crime. And so we’re watching that unfold now and watching the

Women relate to that and react to that. >> And you’ve expanded your audience by the city’s you’ve chosen in the absence of women you just right through. I mean Salt Lake City yeah, who would have thought another curve ball Mormon housewives look into

People want to know the to the extent you can talk about it. Behind the scenes, I’m sure it must just be your phone is texts and phone calls from various housewives. But the issue was something that was in the show how they were portrayed how do you manage this universe that you created.

>> I think that my senses have been called over the years a bit. Maybe I’m a little more used to look at night that and think how does he exist amidst the chaos the cut off any of this group of over much-awaited loud talk there’s that exists in my

Nuclear family, myself my mother, and my sister, but you know there’s something to be said there’s actually a great quote from Ruth Bader Ginsburg in the book where she said sometimes we all have to be a little bit death. And we choose to hear what we want here.

And I thought that was such a great quote because it’s like you know you some things matter that you hear some things to know maybe you know some critiques it you get to get out something that someone is yelling about you think you

Know what they’re going to be over it tomorrow, I’m not going to take this on right so rbg. >> So it’s a little bit of psychiatrist little social work a little that yeah just hear him out and yeah let flesh its way through the system. Yeah, there are some moments, so you

Can’t do that and think about the reunions yes, because you are physically in that room, absolutely and sometimes under assault know, yes that is true. But I control the narrative we we’re in the midst of >> I really have my toughest interview yet with all Erika

Girardi here a home that really Hills that’s unfolding right now unprecedented couple of for par for union sweet happening right now because there were that many questions to be answered by Erica. >> Isn’t it amazing that you created this universe where it’s not just the show itself. They have to be interviews and

Yeah, there’s a news cycle about shows you creates incredible, I open the New York Post. >> And I am of AIDS at the amount of coverage check that these women get it’s really job. It. >> People who don’t know you started in journalism. Yes,

CBS News, you are a journalist, you do manage as you just described, yes, but you are a hard news producer. I was at CBS News he in turn the other school paper the U you sometimes do or take a minute and say wow look how my

Life has turned I love that part of my life but look how things are right now I think it evolved as TV news of all, I mean TV news became a little softer over the years and so I think people started to become more interested in

Personalities and I think that the definition of what is Nunes has of all that as well so I walk into a house measure union and my attitude is this is news for a lot of people I mean I got to get into some of these people meaningless of course,

But it’s a form of new it’s not the last it truly a fax. No one’s daily life. And yes, like the facebook hearings lights right. But I I recognize that it is important to people and people want me to do a good job. Thanks Andy, thanks willing to see you happy anniversary haha.

>> Last time I interviewed you. We’re on zoom and Abbott really in my garage and I was home. This is so much fancy. >> Actually, like connecting with people. I like being a part of the world. >> Kate Hudson is stepping back into the world in style with a

School cook for a swim. We really hope for that. >> Being back doing comedy, this is where I’m happiest. >> In glass onion. The follow-up to the hit 2019 whodunit, knives out written and directed again by Rian Johnson. >> Hudson plays a hilariously self-absorbed, former model named Birdie J.

>> So obviously, your fan of the first movie, I think most of us were. So when the phone rings or the e-mail comes in that says, Kate, they’re interested in you for the next one year. Reaction is, oh, I hope I get this part. I mean, I hope it’s me. Usually

There’s the short list. You know, it’s like people right for parts. You hear about it. I was on that short list. He wanted to meet with me and I remember reading it for the first time 30 Jay has like all bad from La put me in coach

Like this is right up my alley and and again going back to his writing. I read so much comedy and like it’s always somehow comedies the EU. They read a lot like sketches. You know, they’re like situational comedy like the device is funny. The situation is funny. But when

You when you get a writer who knows how to write a character that earns the last, it’s like a dream for I think anybody who loves to to to play comedic roles. And so I just kind of, you know, chances a little bit prayed to God and went in and

Tried to charm the pants off Ryan and it work. >> I can only there’s something very familiar about for DJ. She’s not a person. Yeah. But she sort of archetype assigned of persons that thing she chooses to show up in a room to the scene. She chooses to open her mouth

When she probably shouldn’t say things to be seen. >> So you really try. I like that. You really make an effort well. >> I figured Greece the cast. Just oh, my gosh. You go around the dining room table and you’re just so excited. Mind that each of us at the table, Catherine.

>> I’m going to talk about the elephant in the room. >> Am I the elephant? Yeah. You’re the elephant. You’re not that bad. And Catherine Ivy reunited like that was honestly like one of the great joys of this experience for me because she is she and how this guy

In 10 days just fell in love with the we just love each other so much. >> Local communities. >> To see her career and how far she’s come in, how much like wisdom she now brings to her work? You know, from where we both started. It was 20 years ago.

But first, let’s say that goes fast. But it feels like 5. So to come back here, did you have the same old relations? Yes, jokes and yeah, I just asked feeling because you don’t want people to change. You want them to grow a lot but not like

Change the essence of who they are. And I think we’re both like that like we haven’t really changed much. We’ve just grown. with a breakout performance in the 2000 classic. Almost famous it Too Sweet for my room. Sweet. The movie made Hudson famous and earned her

Nominations for both the Golden Globe and an Academy Award. Do you think? >> We’re about to hear you. >> Both over the next decade, Hudson became one of Hollywood’s most successful stars with box office hits like the aforementioned how to lose a guy in 10 days opposite Matthew McConaughey.

>> And then there was you me and Dupree. Dupree live with U.S.. And Fools Gold pairing her again with click on the head. PlayStation when she’s not acting. The 43 year-old Hudson stays in motion with her successful activewear company among others. So today we’re in the design studio. You’re running red lights.

>> We’ve got fog. I thought he got in Bloom. >> I’ve got 3 companies. I do a lot. I get so bored. Like there’s no way I could just sit and wait like 6 months to make another movie to have to be doing something right.

And I’m also quite linear like I I go back and forth like I have my weird creative artistic times really have to like throw everybody out. And I got to get we’re you know, and then I have moments where I’m like, I just want to be administrative, unlike organize files.

>> Haha, I want to like get my linear brain going. And >> and that I think is where the business I came in like I iced it started with just wanting to be wanting to before it was like everyone was like growing some kind of company I wanted to be in fashion.

I saw this idea. Everyone was like it’s a little risky. It’s, you know, not like going to a normal endorsement. As you know, it was like investing in a company for leggings. That’s, you know, affordable clothing for for women. I was like this is also I get to talk about something I’m

Passionate about. I get to learn about this business. I had no idea that the success of the company would be what it was. And then then then the learning curve came and then I got really and I like I like the business aspect of it.

It’s not easy. It’s hard and it’s a grind. But it’s there’s something about it. I I like the grind like I like the winning part of growing a company that means something to the house like purpose. I enjoy that. It sounds like the answer to this question is

No. But is there any world where you just run your businesses and you say now the acting part of the ever, never it will be the opposite for me. It will be like I think that part. I think it’s I think that as I get older, I want to just read more.

I want to write more on saying you mentioned that a few times. Yeah, public. This is happening now is here we go is happening. What we’ve got an album coming your way. I have an album I’ve been making about. That’s what came for cover COVID for me.

That’s sort of out of that was like, okay, I’m making a record and actually it was it. The way it happened was I was it started with me just saying, you know what? I I need to say more. I was so terrified of singing in front of people

And I was over it and I don’t like being fearful. And I and so I was like, okay. So as to say, I’m just going to say, yes, I was. So I got into the parent high school, but the pair than it has to be like when you come sing a song with

A pair of them as I up, I said it’s a so yeah. But the parent than is like a like all Grammy Award-winning like musicians and producers. And but that they really like and could they were like heat. You need to make a record like you,

Linda Perry, she’s a songwriter. She did what’s going on, she or not wants, but she’s very, very, very prolific. Like kind of a hit maker rate like writes the most amazing songs. And she cold called me and was like, why are you making a record?

And I said because I don’t know, I don’t have the structure of the time. I do know that. And she is now and she said come into my studio and I Saturday studios releasing a song that she had written and then she sat me down. She’s like we’re making a record.

You’ve got to do it. Put your fall aside. We’re going to right. She’s you write music. And yeah, just like, alright, we’re going right together. So we wrote Amie, Danny and Linda sat for 2 months and wrote 25 songs. And

And then so it’s been just for men. It’s just like kind of no expectation. Just like a love for songwriting. It was all a motion needed. Just pour out. It did. It’s there. You’ll hear it. >> I also think like that for my kids being no icing every day I write music

Even for them to see that at this time in my life, I don’t care. I don’t care. I’m just going to I just have to do it. And I hope it says has warmly received his eye have cared for it, you know, because it’s just a labor of love. I mean,

That’s all it is. And if it means that that I have this pivot and I’m playing shows and I’m doing things like that, I would I would love it. But I have no expectation for like there’s no calculated move. I just want to put music in the world.

>> People love you. You have goodwill. They’re going to root for Yahoo. I’m going to we’ll start there. One side, at least. >> Staying busy helps the mother of 3 to cope with her son riders. Recent move across the country to college. But she

Has found a support group with friends, Gwyneth Paltrow and Reese Witherspoon. >> I think when us our kids were in school together. We both have that moment together. When we like look at each other. I do it because we experienced at the same time and and race. All 3

Of us ladies, all of our kids went to college at the same time. It’s so high. I mean, he’s in the city says great because when I’m here, I get to see and then we hang out and he’s loving the city. I mean, and the first 2 weeks of

School, he wrote me. He’s like mom the last day for 4 years like, oh, I’m here good. I’m in it. I love it here. I was like all you want as your kid to thrive and like be happy and so good in his skin. And he’s such a great person.

I’m so and you always riders always been that way. Riders the best. He’s a good human. He’s super talented. He’s really smart, very like perfectly self-deprecating. He’s got that great sense of humor that will get him through life. But man, when I’m in LA and I go to the coffee machine

In the morning and I don’t hear his voice, I didn’t think it would hit me so hard. You raised a great kid who can go all the way across the country and thrive on his own. That’s right. He did it at that. I hope. Yeah, I feel that

In him. And I I think the other thing, too, is like someone said to me because I was having a MOMA in key who was talking about. I don’t know. You know that the second he was 18, he like got a tattoo and he was talking about motorcycles and we asked Icac

And this woman said its face, not fair faith, not fear. And that’s become my Montrose. Look, as I am such a high anxiety, but I was like floating mother anxiety through life. Like where is being where Ronnie lets, you know, like I I’m like, you know, want all my baby cubs sites.

Faith, not fear. That’s what I love. Glad he’s doing so well. He’s doing great. He’s going to be a part of this weird world that I’m in for sure. >> Alston but is living the kind of rare moment actors dream about already the winner of the Golden Globe for his turn as

The king of rock and Roll Butler now is nominated for the ultimate prize. >> I always had these dreams and there were many moments in my life where didn’t feel like it was possible, you know, where you kind of end up in a certain lane and

And you don’t get the opportunities that you really want to challenge yourself or whatever those things are. And so to to now be here, as we’re just saying to look back and and kind of take a breath 6, you know that. >> C? >> You know, my life retrospectively and go, this is

Actually happening. This is really it’s really it’s a it’s year, very home and grace. >> With the look, the voice and even a little of that. Sweat Butler had Elvis on his mind long before to director Baz Luhrmann. >> Resale along the Blue Christmas. Yes, something is Chris. Yeah. Which was

Yeah. I just happened to be. I think we have we have a similar timber, a voice that I got a call from my days in the past is making the move in. That was one of those moments for the hair. Stand up on arms against think, okay. The stars

Are aligned in a little little too clearly right now. So let’s just through all our chips on the table and give everything you. >> The film nominated for 8 Academy Award. You revealed the man behind the showman and often tortured for hope with overwhelming 7. Well back in Ruggs and butting heads with

His manager, Colonel Tom Parker played by Tom Hanks. >> And the promoter that is what I do. And I know that that’s what I do. I mean, it’s and it’s the role of a lifetime, you know, and you kind of know that when you read the script or or

>> and even just the idea of getting to explore the life of somebody who had the life that the side, it’s and it has either been so misunderstood and is now simply Halloween costume for people. He’s idolized to a level where he becomes larger than life.

So for me, it was just really fascinating to strip all that away and fund human being. That is at the core of on that. You know, what is so also just how dynamic he was, then he moved in a way that it did and and saying the way that he did,

There are many times it felt impossible. But I didn’t feel like I was enough. And moments where I didn’t believe that I could actually do it. And and those are moments that looking at Bison saying that he believed in me, I owe him so much for that because there’s

Many moments where I thought, you know, especially in the preparation process will about a month after I got cast mood and Nashville and and Memphis. I feel sort of like an imposter, you know, and I kept waiting for somebody to look at me and go, you don’t

Belong here. Get out of here, you know. And and bass have this faith in me. And then as we got closer and closer to start to build, and I started to I just feel the life more and and then became the most exhilarating thing. And so I

Think icons new at the at the very beginning that that if if I could get through and could survive somehow that I would come out the other side a different person. >> You are shy kid. And how did you end up breaking through

That in the end saying whoa, I can do this. I can command a crowd. >> Part of it was learning that this is very shy and that was liberating to me to to learn that we first started playing the guitar. You you would

Turn off the lights in the house and asked people to turn around. So you play. But he would want to watch. And and so >> even even when you watch, you know, I was on tour in 72. He’s talking about this stage fright all the way through his

Career. He had that stage fright because he cared so much. But then he also spoke of once he got into the first couple songs. And so the report of the audience that the fear sort of subsided and then he was liberated. And so that was that was freeing for me to know that

Even though the self year, though, some like this. >> Do you remember the first time you looked in the mirror and saw Elvis, the hair, the make-up in the world go. But all that. You remember that moment? Yeah. I mean, I remember the entire process. We had more hair and makeup test and

I think most people have never done because that’s the way buzz is where we had just months and months of just trying things. We’re trying to nose and the truck. We try tons of prosthetics and then prosthetics. And then we kind of kept going back and forth, trying to figure it out now

By myself. And and it was it was the moment for walking out on stage, you know, so nervous. And then I looked in the mirror. It was like I was seeing Elvis giving me a pep talk because and I’m seeing that face. And they’re saying, you know, yes, this is terrifying.

That’s exactly how this was feeling in that moment was career was on the line. That’s because that’s exactly why. So it’s that was the moment was looking into the mayor and us. >> Playing Elvis has is bittersweet for Butler close to present his daughter, Lisa Marie for her death in January.

>> I remember the moment they first going to watch the so I’ve never been more nervous for a bit of this. And it’s in I really thought it could go either way. And then when baserunning facility, it’s I just burst into tears because it was I felt so much responsibility to them

Stands for their family. And and that’s well, this is legacy and us. And then the mice and I got to meet this means that we really need to we screen that’s on the Grayson and then because of the so resonated with her in that way, suddenly

Now is this moment. We’re standing in front of each other and we’re looking into each other’s eyes and I felt so much love for Hurts, threw him in that whole process that I’ve never felt closer to somebody quicker than I saw her and then shoot. She was just the most incredible other than

That. Just so so incredibly honest and loving. Yes, so and I said it and this exact words, but it’s very bittersweet as its. I just wish that she was here to celebrate with us. But and I’m just so and I’m so grateful that everybody has received the

Story more that they have to get recognition for from there family, you know, and sort her dad who I’m a no weight on her lot, how misunderstood UAW’s. And and so she to be a part of that. I just feel so. And that’s the privilege Team.

California, where he was raised with his older sister. >> How did you find your way to acting? >> So we want to look back at it. I I was so shot in public, but then I would do anything to make my mom.

>> And then I also love that watching movies. I was tons of movies. And I didn’t really like to hang out with other kids. Spend a lot of time at home. I would, you know, recreate scenes from a mom. So that really, I think was the genesis of it all.

>> I’m James Butler’s. First major scenes outside of the family living room came as a teenager on Disney and Nickelodeon shows like Hannah Montana. And so we want to one. >> I learned that a fun, my light and hit my mark. And remember my lines. Was there ever a moment, Austin, we’re like.

>> Maybe this just isn’t going to work out. Yeah, times many, many times. I really question, but I didn’t have a plan B, I tested at a high school was 15 and I am I didn’t go to college. I never had a real job. I can’t I don’t have another option.

But I had a moment, especially after after my mom passed away where my whole world sort of shift in. And I I started looking at material that was working with and just go. And this is just just so vapid right now and and is what

I’m doing does it doesn’t matter at all. And and is there is there. I was having trouble finding doing. >> Butler found joy all the way across the country working no cost 20. We just fell in love, too. >> He made his debut starring alongside Denzel Washington in

The Iceman Cometh. And despite some understandable nerve Butler quickly impressed his iconic costar. >> I memorized the entire floor, outplay everyone’s lives. And he’s been watching me though. They were just I’m just I’m just going for 100% the entire time. >> And I think because he saw you saw certain things. You

Just how much I care about that. He started to kind of take me under his wing is very, very kindly. But but getting to watch him in the rehearsal room was the most amazing, amazing experience. And it wasn’t just for being a partner and Iceman cometh. That because he called.

>> That has led to this kid is really good. >> You’ve got to give him a good look for all of us. Really so great for them for that. >> I think my mom, when is going down right now. Mom, I love you so much for.

>> What do you think she’s thinking as she watches what’s happening to her son? What he’s done in this last year? >> I I, you know, I think should be very proud. And and she sacrificed so much, you know, actually quit her job to drive our decisions. And

But right now, I think last and should wait outside and drive all the way back down Orange County. Also she when she was in high school, she wanted to be an actor. And so I think I’m sort of getting to you live this life for those of us that way

And shoot. She’s just here’s my best friend. And so I think she’d be happy. >> But you’ve got to be proud of. Thank you. Congratulations and everything. Lot of people or, you know, listen, had >> I just got to change. >> I didn’t mean for it to. Yeah. See you then. Thank you.

Says I really enjoyed it. So great to talk to you. >> Sandra thanks so much for doing this is great to see you know really good to be with you, I’m very anxious to talk about the chair, I told just got to see the first 2 episodes

Before we do that I wish you a very happy milestone birthday happy birthday. I just thank you you had an amazing post where you stopped and sort of took stock of your life and career. And thanks just about everybody you can think of and

Recall of these great shows that that have made your career what it is. >> Yes, you know, I’m not a big poster. But I woke up early that morning. And my mom had already checked. Her and she said. >> What time I look in the morning and I’m like OK.

>> I woke up and I basically spoke to my parents and milestone birthdays are wonderful times take stock of things and I just once I was really thinking about you know my friendships of my family and actually my work and I just really wanted to. Thank everybody, you know

It’s a it’s a great immediate way to send a message reading. >> It was it was great to do now is is that overwhelming in some ways to stop this point sent home because you are moving so fast in your life and your career to stop said.

Well look look at all the things I’ve done in these years. >> You know actually doing stuff like this speaking to people who will ask me questions like this. Those are the moments, I actually have to stop and go oh what I’ve been

Doing what I’ve been trying to make because people put things into perspective that I have not thought of. And it’s a really good checkup. >> We’ve got something great to celebrate with the chair, the new series on netflix. >> Is our first baby chair woman.

>> I explain for people are thinking about watching it sort of the plot and also what about this great character for the U n. >> Share is a drama D and it’s kind of a workplace comedy that set in academia so I played it. The role of tuna can professor

Kim who was just then the newly me to chair the English department at Pembroke senior says that is just University centered around a transgressive act that one of the fellow professors build off simply by Jay duplass does in class and it’s then navigating as the chair. How to manage the fallout

From a very eloquent mistake and how to keep the department that English department and that the Humanities relevant. But it also touches on so many things without being pointed at it, it’s like what it is to be a woman and person of color who

Enters into a leadership role who’s trying to change very antiquated and patriarch, a white system, you know, I mean how she relates to her students and to her co-workers how she relates to her elderly father, how she relates to her adopt

The daughter. So it was a great opportunity to play such a a a dynamic in full flash rule and I give all the credit to Amanda Peet who created this world. >> As you say she steps into this place that has been run

Forever by old white guys and in many cases these are cartoonish like guys kind of fumbling around hang on to their tenure. Could you dig into some personal experience as a woman of color and stepped into these prominent rolls and rolls of leadership and sort of understand what she was going through.

>> Sure and also try free mall so that hopefully hopefully no one is a caricature. In this piece so even though you have, you know older white professors male professors, one you know the brilliant Bob ballot in place. Professor affiliate rents. Hopefully you’re seeing his perspective on the on the effect of

Of being the older generation and perhaps not have paid enough close attention to what the students want and how they need to learn so just start with that and then the next part of your question which is like do you know what it’s like yeah, I do and

I think that that has got to have informed how I approach, you know, Jeanne, I can set the specifically point to what but one of the things that I feel like I have learned in my career that is a little bit. Ahead of professor Kim

Is is that change is slow when you’re an individual facing institution. And for me not to lose heart because for anyone who knows who’s tried to enact change. It’s never the way that you think it’s going to happen right. And the challenges are there for you to only get more

Specific in deeper into your commitment to change and I I have to just see professor Kim just trying to balance all these things at once. And so you have a real good balance of comedy and pathos >> Which as a as an Asian woman use as an American woman you

Say that was really important that her name was authentically Korean can you explain that a little bit. >> Sure it’s like I can trace, I feel like how Hollywood has progressed or why didn’t. You know when I was on Grey’s anatomy for 10 years as Cristina Yang. It was the obama years and

Specifically the the show never addressed people’s ethnicity. Nor did it with the kind of address people’s home, much. It just was the style the show. So I never got to really miss or explore what other parts of Christina Watts and then with

The show killing Eve. I was able to bring a certain aspect of eaves cultural heritage in the 3rd season, but that’s what the show’s not really about that as the show is really about the expiration of and the discovery of a woman’s own psyche.

But in the chair when I first opened that first page of the pilot and I saw that doctor Kim’s name is is she cam I just noted in terms of the growth of my own career that now I can see I can play a character who specifically has

A Korean name, and all the characters are going to call her that Nate in correctly and I do it was significant to me. I think there’s been a lot of accommodation or denial or just not existence of the fact that people have they’re in their names or ethnicity is is

Is in their names so it was just great to is going to see the important to me. >> And feels like this fits into something you’ve been thinking about in your recent roles which is to give authentic Asian experiences in the in the car to take and your

Performance is different as you say from something like Grey’s anatomy was just sort of fit into the plot you can sort of tell more of the story and I feel like we see that in the chair when she goes home and her father lives there. And we

See symbols of religion on the wall which you’ve talked about in your old chopping your own childhood. So what does it mean to you personally to be able to have that power in Hollywood to say this is how the role. It’s going to be this is how I’m going to play that.

>> Well, it’s definitely not as let’s see cut and dry in that way because for me it’s more like finding the right collaborators finding because I am I’m not a writer. At this point my not in my law on each and every wants everyone in the South. But

It’s about trying to find the world and and and the voices that I and interested in in inhabiting and collaborating with so you know a man to set the whole world this was always going to be a part of it. Is doctor King was always going to be taking care of an elderly

Parent she was always going to be taking care of an adopted daughter. So no matter what you can to open up a lot of story dynamic with that and that was also one of the things that really really interest me.

>> And is there a lot more of that now Sandra is just by virtue of all the different outlets that we have for those shows added with heightened consciousness and awareness that we need more of it. >> I you know what

I think so I’m almost afraid to do you read and and anyone who was a person of color knows what I’m doing what I’m saying I don’t want to say that it might be true, but it might be true. Because there is more openness to it because there is

More interest in it. What I hope develops along side of it is a certain type of patients and a certain type of support that comes in the form of development. You know voices have to be developed. You know if you suddenly wants us to a storyline based on X y

Z because it’s you seem to think that the public wants it. You need to develop the voices to be able to take on those leadership roles to make that happen because ultimately what it depends on is that this story telling is interesting and authentic and true, you need because you can have

Whoever you want on camera, it doesn’t matter but if it’s not into staying. That is not truthful. I don’t think people will watch it. >> I think that’s probably right and as you talk about bring your own experience to roles like this. I love reading the story of your own upbringing outside Ottawa,

Where you really have to convince your parents that performance in acting was the thing for you you’re proving to be very right. But what were those early years like when you said Mom and Dad, I know you maybe don’t get this, but this is what I want to do.

>> You know, I’m one of those extremely lucky people who have a good relationship with their parents. And what I learned from that experience and obviously grown mining returning as a person is that adversity is extremely important in the development. A person’s character.

That time, you know my parents are immigrants from South Korea any meaning it is very very very tip call a Korean American immigrant kind of upbringing just very another article education and having a good job security is very important anyone knows a child of immigrant knows this.

So my parents, it was very very far and you know the entertainment world or the artist world, those River and foreign to them. But what I am so blessed with is that the way that the were an obstacle to me it only makes you tougher. In a good way.

I spoken about this before it’s like you know if you have the 2 most important people telling you that you shouldn’t do it. For that you can’t do it you. You still do it any way you do it anyway. You have a you just built an internal confidence

You can only build up by going through it. So when you are pounding the pavement when people are saying no when you have self doubt you already have a certain layer of confidence because you’ve already surpassed just you know. The doubt of the 2 most important people to you I was

Very lucky man in my in my career so far you know in the early days I had success quite early and I was able to show them very full peace it. It’s you know where the entire film was about my character. I did this film early on by munition called double tapping

It, and it was about this character name change leaving who wants to be an actress is in a very typical Chinese comedian home and it’s a very simple coming of age story where she just said that you this home to pursue her dreams. When my parents saw that my mom said to me.

It’s just what you basically wanted to tell us. And I just felt so seen by her. She got it, I mean my parents really eased off the gas pedal because I was fortunate enough to be able should my work and they could

Understand that on that there’s meaning in in that work and I think it’s a little it’s a little tricky hard for immigrants. Parents, let’s just say to understand that if their child is an artist just to not be afraid even if they fail or

Even if they’re hungry just eating pizza for 3 days. If they’re if you see your child that wants to be an artist in some sort of way just to just to give them a little space tried out. you get up there and they showed on the broadcast I think

Before you even got to the microphone, your parents and your dad stands up and breaks into applause and you’re doing OK and then you see them you. You could see its heart of washing over you what was that moment like to see your parents who are skeptical at the outset

Stand in the back and watch you receive this huge award and to watch their daughter be so successful. What you chose to do. You know I have been. >> Shameless with my parents I am Robin to so many. He froze, but it’s profoundly profoundly satisfying

That when you reach a certain type of milestone and I would say that for me it was hosting the show that your parents who support you so deeply are actually in there and the audience that is profoundly. I have satisfied to be able to come to a certain point in your

Career when in the moment that you’re celebrated your parents did to witness. I mean you should ask them what they. I honestly it was it such a bubble where you know it’s such a blur but it was also really important to me to be able to publicly thank them,

You know, and you know you don’t you and I mean honestly just doing it in in the moment because my parents are there. I subsequently I I just read I it was reflected back to me that. I think that it meant a lot to a lot of child children of immigrants.

And a lot of Asian American kids and just people to be able to express. Gratitude and love to their parents public. >> I don’t think I have to ask them I saw their faces that night. I think they’re pretty proud think they’re pretty

Proud. So you talked about that early success in Canada and then you make the leap over 2 American television and you mentioned are less I think most people point to sideways as the breakout moment for you didn’t feel that way in real time winner with that

Who she I like her. Let’s put her in more stuff. >> You know I think it was actually a timing thing because sideways and Grey’s anatomy happened at the same time. You know, I mean so those are those, you know just mysterious

Times of like you know, the Stars are aligned and I think that did happen and you know working on side was was one of the highlights of my career insist it I hold up, is that while now, but I think it still holds up so that kind

Of like 1, 2, punch of like sideways and then Grey’s anatomy it was. It was a and we’ll have a real shot on a canon but I also am so happy that you know it happened in my early 30’s. So I really had a career behind me and the and a fairly good

Amount of ground in to be able to receive what that meant to suddenly come into people’s consciousness. >> And it kind of felt like it seems that with that sideways success you said to yourself, I don’t have to do that girlfriend the sidekick you thing

I can be front and center the central character. >> When you make this certain like leaks in your career. You change the point of view of what you’re going to accept. For me it was not lot it was not in the terms of I don’t want to be

X y Z right it was very much like. I only want to play dynamic characters. I only want to play things in spire me and that’s that’s always a really challenging time to be able to move your career into a place of inspiration as opposed to of necessity. So I was unlucky to

Be able to decide in certain practice and that means it’s definitely win. I mean come on. out of the can and there’s no bigger can and to be shot up in terms of the show that was right in the cultural Zeitgeist the people we’re talking about the morning after all the time.

What was it like in your life to be thrust on to that show to have this big role on the biggest show on TV that more and more people interested in your life to know who you are too. Say hello to you on the street, how did that change your life.

Mean I’m guessing that to be perfectly honest. It was traumatic to him about it. And the reason why I’m saying that is. I don’t know whether it’s just I come from a different generation or my temperament as in our midst is that you know that the best work

Or the work that you are or the circumstances you need to do your work is with a lot of privacy. And that’s that’s just to find the authentic self and so when one loses ones anonymity. The you have to build skills. Still try and being real.

So I know this is probably not an answer that people are particularly interested in but it is a 2 for one. But having been in I I’ve grown to adopt not grown it really for versus you to you to grow internally

For at least from the internal is to be able to I mean I went from not being able to go out or not being able to cope with life hiding in restaurants are never looking out to then being able to receive and manage. And then its projection. Manage and shun.

Manage expectation. While not losing the sense of self and that takes a little while to figure out. >> How do you do it though how do you do when all the eyeballs in the restaurant or on you and you say, OK this is my life,

It’s not normal. But it’s my life, here’s how I’m going to manage and how did you make those adjustments because I’ve heard the same from other actors who’d been shot out of a cannon on a big show are big movie and all of us and their

Life like that the weekend the movie comes out is totally different. >> We’ll have that they’re just on that show Clinton. Yeah, I’m not joking, it’s very very important because there’s a lot that one would need to talk about you should not talk about with your partner or friends or

Family, you don’t pardon with that it’s a very specific Road. And so one of the good therapist over the have a good support system, a support network, you know I’m very lucky that I do have a very great support system. And you just have to work at finding a way to stay grounded.

And a lot of times that’s my saying no. >> You’ve done well with it certainly in from the the question that always comes up when someone leaves a show like that is okay when you do from the they’re what next and here comes killing needn’t have this other great success where as I

Said you went another Golden Globe award. What was it about that part that so attracted you and what makes that show. So popular that people are so obsessed with it. >> Haha I can tell you definitely wouldn’t treat me. Whiskey while the bridges. Yeah because they have not seen it before.

And I knew it was fresh and really new it was fresh right off the page. And I knew I could I knew I could follow it. I like the circumstance where you know it’s this kind of the airy middle of the Roald middle of her life woman and every woman

Who then develops an extremely dangerous and obsessive relationship with that with an assassin Lakers are crazy circumstances. But what I can also see in the piece. He’s I was very interested in exploring that it’s about a woman’s self discovery. And that was ultimately what was so intriguing and and

Hopefully that element as well as a type of very exciting, push and pull relationship between Eve and villanelle it is exciting to people. The mostly it’s I I hope it is if you see these 2 women trying to figure out themselves by somehow meeting to being relationship with each other.

And that was really see that was really interesting to me like how how do you figure out how to be in a relationship with the character. They want security. >> It’s a big question. The big question part of the fun of the show is that you have a different woman writing every

Season so can you give us a little look ahead to season 4 of what your fans might expect. >> What I honestly, I’m just in the middle here in London just in the middle of shooting not the season for the last season of killing Eve and I can tell you

It’s tarrifs and raw, you know, we’re really really working hard to fly in and really honor that relationship and to find out what they are. How their story. Not ends but somehow somehow finishes at this moment. You know that’s what we’re really working trying to find that

That that way just to service all those characters beautifully. >> Very diplomatic answer, it felt like you’re getting something and you really weren’t you are such a pro such a pro Sander, I really appreciate your time congratulations on the chair and so fun to talk to you,

I know you’re busy working so, thanks for taking the time he so much. >> And not a lot else to do around here that this just a really live in the country. >> When Brendan Fraser needs a break, he takes a walk out back

In the sprawling yard of his upstate New York home. >> As part of the appeal of this place that so far away from your business and yes, it feels outside of your heels, Rick. Good to be removed. Real fire. We got here a little bit to make sure that.

>> After living quietly in recent years, Fraser again is one of the hottest names in Hollywood. Thanks to his performance in the whale. >> Think of that. I think that the truth that you are getting. >> The Darren Aronofsky directed film that has the 54 year-old his first Oscar nomination for best actor.

>> It’s been a real reflective tone for me a meditative time, grateful time in many ways. And I feel fortunate that for whatever it is that’s happening right now that it didn’t happen 2025 years ago because I would not have been license to operate at equipment at that time in my life.

It would have been too much too soon. >> For for us mortals, what is it like to get a call that says you’re nominated for an academy? I watched the broadcast. >> And saw on channel get nominated and we shouted for joy and everyone else. And then it was my category. And they

Said my name, I got really quiet and everyone else shouted. Haha. And then the kids appeared with of fudgy the Whale Cake. >> That’s my favorite part of the story. Honestly, for anybody who knows. But you the whale from Carville

Is as good as you can do it right. And his has ever been a more appropriate desert for an occasion. In fact, the way. >> It was the first time ever seen in a word it is going to kick this soup that the whale they look to be going.

>> For more than a decade, Fraser has been working, but out of the limelight is part of a comeback that has been dubbed. >> Prentice Alliance, I’m glad you use that term because I was not going to use. Let’s get it out of the way. I mean it on the one hand,

It’s funny. But then I’m also hearing that, you know, everybody else is having a renaissance and the well, the whale has connected so deeply with so many people were talking about it before it came out and so many different levels. I’m curious what connected with you at first

Just the idea the pitch from Darren Aronofsky. He saw this play. He thought of you having seen you in another film. What did you hear when you heard that first pitch of this film Daryn? >> And I met in January of 2020 and I knew very little about it

Going in because are secretive project. And, you know, there is going to come movie. That’s news. Of course, we want to meet him. I had some creative intimidation and to know, but I knew that this was the story of a man who’d been living alone. He’d been harming

Himself by overheating, and he has very little time left and to save his as per his soul. You his quest is to redeem himself in the eyes of his daughter from whom he is estranged. This is not a film about obesity. This is a film about a man

Must reconnect with his daughter full stop and we’ll hear really not be able to is the question we go on. >> As an actor, you you’ve done this her entire life. You prepare for seniors to them and you do it. How do you get into that

Character? Why are undergoing 4 hours of makeup and prosthetics every day? >> Well, I did take naps. Haha, we are always the first ones in the last 2. The Adrian Row gets the game ball for that. These are makeup prospects, this honor. And

It’s really just a matter of being patient because I love the craft of filmmaking. I look every I love every departments work and the makeup is no exception. >> You can make a movie that you feel is good and the director feels this is good but you just don’t know how the the

Public is going to react. When was the first time you felt okay, we are reaching people. We have moved people with this film in Venice at that screen. >> That was the famous 6 minute standing ovation as they really think. It depends on what what the tally. And so I feel like

It’s 8 minutes 20. I look, I just and let’s go with 6. That’s good. Okay. So it seems fair takes it. >> And you can see in that moment that video and all over the the Internet, how overcome you were? There were sections. >> I did feel like,

Yeah, I’m not going to keep it together. >> And the very cause take a bow almost out the door when it’s cold. It’s great. You know. And the I was looking at my shoelaces. Haha, really tiger, she really, really well today and it the people are still here. They’re still Italian. There’s

Still cry at the many of them. And we’ve got 5 more minutes to its people. Haha, I know to do it yourself what to do, I? >> Stay in. Stay in your state, your boots. Stay in the moment. I’m learning because that’s the root word. I think his most meaningful to me.

>> Do you see in this to Brandon with a lot of people see which is not only was a great performance but people are rooting for you. People are happy to see you as this nice. >> I’m I’m grateful. I’ve never been that far away. But I did step the spotlight for

A spell there to sort some things out my life and to take a stock of who I am, where I’m going and what my aspirations are. >> We make this happen this year has been maintaining the yeah. >> Fraser once was everywhere. His father’s work moved the

Family around the world. And when Fraser arrived in Hollywood and it wasn’t long before he was fronting major blockbuster movies like George of The Jungle and The Mummy >> I was really out of the gate early. There are a lot of things that he’s doing that were overlapping with one

Another. It was sometimes can competition on opening weekends with my own project because it really states I was also kind of a merry-go-round, want the music stopped. You know, it can get to be a bit much and you get off the merry-go-round and you’re wondering, well,

Gee, it’s quiet around here. Maybe I should get back to >> The music stopped in part because of health problems from years of doing his own stunts. >> The physical stuff was one piece of yeah. The jury’s yeah. I just that’s a combination of

Getting banged up at the John the job and having some predisposition for being a tall guy and a few injuries along the way and that in a mindset of I better be earning this. And I I learned that you can’t literally throw yourself into the job in a way that Ken

Harm you or make you feel like you’re again working harder than you need to earn your keep your eye. All of you know that it wasn’t a death of 1000 cuts, but I was, you know, it it compounded to a point where I found myself

A physical pain that I had been ignoring for a number of years. Kind of like the same way you would ignore or you’re bringing tunes to smoke alarm. You know? Yeah. Once it gets turned off, you’re like, wow, I didn’t know it’s going to you know that

Before picking out your paws, right? Wow. That’s so much better. And once is able to do that, then I realized how much more careful I need to be going forward. And then there was a mental health side of it as well. Is that fair to say that the Biden you compress, that’s a

Byproduct right of them, physical pain? That happens in my instance, not for everyone tonight. I just knew that I needed to take care of personal issues and feelings that I had that I need to validate and I worked with plenty of professionals. I reached out to

Friends and family in in a way that was meaningful that I didn’t know. I didn’t know that you could ask for help. I didn’t. I didn’t know. I didn’t know it sounds crazy. But now you’re not alone. And that the way a

Lot of people I didn’t know until I did. Yeah. And after that, I felt like, well, that was almost too easy. They want to do that sooner. And once I was able to to to navigate that path, we’re not doing that. That was alone. Then things started to fall into place for me.

When did the archery things start for your brand and around the time I had just come out and for a 3rd surgery can go to the gym and then to find something to focus on right on it as proof of his marksmanship. Don’t look.

How long did that take you to get to that place? We said OK to come, Senator grounded, ready to dive back into the thing is I was always doing something. Yeah, I mean, have been is prominently featured in a little bit

Can pull movie. But I had to do something to keep myself busy. So to be involved in a limited series production or something. Yeah, and I never I thought the only way to be backs to do something exclaims. I hear it.

I wanted to be a part of the story that you care about. >> Fraser has found it in the whale of a tale of redemption for its protagonists and for the man who plays him. >> For the first time ever, the felt in my bones to be a part of this.

And I also felt like after I it’s finished with film and saw how amazing everyone in this cast, you know, for whatever reason the audience of this movie doesn’t get it or they don’t like it or it’s not for them or disagree with that. I respect all of

That. I don’t necessarily agree with it, but I respect all of that. I felt like I did everything I could because I’m out of moves. I don’t know how to do my job any differently than what it did. That felt a little bit vulnerable in risky at the same

Time. But it also made me feel like a there it is. How have a look. I got I got nothing to fabricate we just had to get snow. It is hard work being job for the good cop with the dark side late for more than a decade by Idris Elba.

>> Looks like a lot of fun as a viewer to play this character know no. Just brutal heat up so much table for you in the rain. Cold decide to do it and where he’s in Hawaii. It is like, you know, there is a tropical storm. So there is some rain and it

Was so cold. I smell a sequel 100%. Why that, Lou, there’s a lot to make a I mean, I say, is infinite played for 10 years. And it’s one of my, you know, so they’re scared. Says if you like. >> Elba has played several in this time. It is known best

Perhaps as drug dealer. Stringer Bell from the iconic HBO drama. The Wire No matter what we call is going to get so. But in Elvis native UK Luther 5 season BBC series now spot into the new movie, the Fallen Sun. >> From a player, the Texans on the other side of the fence,

You know, chewing on just a drug dealer detective loose to me. That was like, yeah, I get to reinvent something and myself, actually, >> there’s something about loose. Been this 4th white character that will stop at nothing. >> This to the start on this. So I think the snow was the

Story of the parliament. >> John Moussa is an ordinary detective were so extraordinary circumstances, a very light school. You know what it’s all about end of the world couldn’t which about guys that have real bad sort of ethics are made and he caused on that.

But what the film is not given us is taking this Central Lisa, important in these landscapes in these snows that could be as epic as the ones that James Bone. So the coverage, you know them in. I hope people kind of go. Wow, James versus just, you

Know, to me that I really hope that I don’t think I did notice. There’s a moment a bar. You’re sitting there. >> Salmon bagels from it. >> Government saying that the script was like we sure, bro. I mean, this is like swine. No one knows. Was that a

Nod to the outside calls for you to play James Bond, the a fiscally. But I think those who are not enough, it’s a great moment. So now you’ve you certainly raise the question, then come with the bond comparison. The franchise anyway of sequels live feels to me having just watched the

Movie like there’s more to come. Yeah, fair to say or at least that’s the way you’d like it to go. >> I think it’s fair to say that. Yeah, I think that the and then again released. What about those that do for the possibilities when he’s joining? Go next. And I think

It’s quite on purpose. I mean, we or, you know, have a so wish to take a a few shots, is and see this landscape grow and grow. I do. I mean, I feel like there’s so much we can offer because loose aligned

Is really where the noosa goes up. So if we so those are in Colombia, I had the same sort of loose arrests that it can this dog, you know, I think that would still be is engage in. >> Seeing sort of London as we know it.

>> Elbow was born and raised in London’s working class canning town, the son of African immigrants. >> How and when was the scene to become an actor planted? How did you get to that place from a place that was so far from Hollywood or show business? But I mean,

>> you know, I I I knew in high school secondary school foot for me. I was being nice. Knew that at the age of 16 that this is so my tree up just, you know how to get that soon. As I left school, a set of, you know, going to college,

I said to the performing Arts course which sort of covered all the bases. But it was like that when I said that Lynch to sue method, that too, what was there? I just can’t fix stated. So was 19 up to 2 years college.

You know, I want to let that my dad was a Ford Motor company. I worked with him for a little bit. I saved enough money and I was like I’m going to New York and it was going over friends like you. They’ll wear what the

What’s in the opening up a sidewalk or is in the color that in the there’s like a sigh they then asked to leave and that it New York. Good luck. >> And it wasn’t. It wasn’t easy for many, many years signing jobs. You are DJ and bouncing paying your rent to do

All the things you had to do to survive. So what were those early years in America like for a young struggling actor? You know? >> I think I’d saved up somewhere like, say 6,000 pounds and used older than 6 months. I was broke. I was not broken jobs

Cost and it is what interested. But not really. You know, I mean, like don’t come to a place where they already have high. But this yet COVID something different. It’s a really good act, is it? I just came with his dream and I was really I’m a tenacious Qaeda. Stick at it.

>> And so is it true that when the script for the wire came your way, you are the Astro van. >> Yeah. That spending a few nights in the van. Yeah. Yeah, it was. It’s there’s a very tough time. Those married

At the time and the question I was going for a very bad time. She was pregnant. It was rough time barely scrape enough money for, you know, bowl and child. I lived in a van for a little bit. >> By the time I was with a shin injury in the day,

You know, my doors, juju people, and so like generate what about November now? And this trip comes in. It’s like, you know, this is a pilot. You know, again, I was seeing really good cause and it says by this junction, okay, its pilots coming to school. Why

Going to see the guys with the cell phone without speaking their own oxen? You know, just keep it American. I did. I quite frankly, it was the moment that my door was born and she got the phone call that, hey, you know, we want to see the road the same. Yeah,

That’s the wild if you believe in fate. But there’s something going on. Of course, it’s in Crystal or Sarah is a really special time change my life. But those last year, what did that mean to you professionally? Then when that show became such an iconic

Series of such a success and everyone knew your name and your face and you were this close anymore, you’re there. Yeah, that means you won’t forget. >> Correa, it just restored my face. That’s a line. It’s really easy to sort of sort of have no safe when when stuff’s really tough.

It’s just, you know, should I give up should night? Don’t give up Billy cause. It’s like to see that story. You can get more public than that. It to me like I had a child come in and broke and living in an America in New York City

And then, you know, Derek. And so it meant a lot to me. It was a life change. It changed my life financially, obviously. But it really did can support my career and to essentially, you know what, I’m still dining that a life changing moment, right? >> I mean, why would cost should not

Weather talk about the office or Mandela just showed in the whole of South Africa. >> Luther, of course, all these amazing series in going to the Marvel cinematic universe. I’m getting all these opportunities. Talk about an 8 day where you could

You couldn’t find a book and all of a sudden it’s like we want to be in the Marvel movies. Yeah. It’s got to be serve ahead. Trip to say I can serve have my choice. Now. Things that I want to do that to someone else for the other day like to still audition.

>> Whoa, look like a never a good moment. I was just like, no, I don’t addition. It’s a very, very different scenario now. >> If you’ve had a chance to tell Dinero how he inspired, you know what? No.

>> I know. I mean, I said it is so these views and those I want to the me, too. There’s a dude. You actually inspired me. You know, he had a off a stone in trying back back to I I-35 without one that this went to his office.

I think you I read in the stage that he was the state newspaper is that he was holding auditions for a low. So it was his film is all right. Yeah, I got to be in this, you know,

To find a way to be. So I show up. I said I’m going to shun at the front desk and the like because you’ve got to the next floor. So now I know black in this wry. Wow, I’m going up to the

Next was let’s be wet. But there is this woman comes out. Hi, Julie. I tell all monies address is my resume. She’s like how did you get this bill done? Said addition in for a boost doses like Honey, we all need to do with the Suns. Just curious to know how

You got in here too. Well, just the summary says a house with it. So lots of the boys to to okay, I’ll take your resume, but we do have any more auditions. True story. Wow, right. Okay. >> Noting fun if we went down there right now that again,

>> L but also is an accomplished DJ. Who has booked Coachella twice and one royal wedding. >> His other passions started as a side hustle long before acting pay the bill. >> Because some of this 5,000 people have been here that energy can call to get that in films. You can get that

Maybe and see it. But it’s not just reactive when it’s working. It’s incredible what you want it so I can. >> To really even have nights like that is another yourselves here. That’s great. I think I always have nice that that might seem a bit like it’s on this, too, too.

>> Yeah, that’s how you keep it sharp. The hundreds 100’s. And I just feel it listening to your journey at moments like this. When you’re out celebrating the big Netflix movie you have you must have a moment of pause and go

And I work for this to, you know, I came along way, not just from New York City going back to, you know, working in that Ford plant to do pause and think, and I tussled my way pretty far here. >> Yes, that there’s no doubt about that. But you know what?

I still feel the love so much to offer. And I still feel like that guy us in the wake up in the van Gogh in today’s the day. I really do. You know, the main lesson I’m greedy or anything, it’s just that I never really wanted to use that sort of.

>> Inquisitive. What can I do? Want to clarify how coshocton how can I achieve? I never want to lose to. And next up, nice or goes to Hawaii. Haha Hawaii and Jamaica as the sun. >> It’s good to see and it’s been a while and they end up

Paying for us for years and a few things to change in your life since then he turned 30, you got married in a sweet baby girl, yeah put out this new album. Does it feel exist intially different to you. They have all these things in your life now than the last

Time I saw it. >> Yeah I think I think especially information trips like this because that is like usually I would be out for a night on this to be myself I guess and I sometimes when I’m doing stuff and my head,

I’m like waiting for being like a bike he’s spent his time in my daughter, you know. >> What you write sit down to write music for this new album for equals clearly if you listen to every song almost there are touches of how your life is changing to asked album

So how much of your family, your new family went into this >> Oh my out comes from my debuts up up to now being a record. reflection of pretty much a mirror image of what my life is in that time like you have a condition to process a 19

Year-old boy who’s just moved to London how to break happened is trying to figure out. You can stream whatever and then the second out in as many states in turn around. The Los Angeles but about that I’ve been traveling the world settling down and this out is that

Pandemic baby marriage. Yeah, I mean, the next one is going to >> We just kind of stepped off after divide you stepped up be. this crazy ride that you are on the run tour for like 2 and a half years, yeah that the highest grossing tour in the

History of music, all of those things and then you came back and you said maybe that was it maybe that was it for me and music did you really think that way. >> I’ve always I mean it’s my hobby and I started playing

Music because I love that not because I thought I wouldn’t make a job out there is nothing well if you’re in high school people that hey this is like a viable job that you can go in you know is actually saying you’re kind of frowned upon

When I jumped out of school, my friends alike. Okay could come up with that and then it does what it can it’s a new hobby becomes your job and it wasn’t. I want to necessarily want to step away from music by Stephanie one step away from. It being a professional

Hobby and you know the kind of scrutiny that comes with it like I enjoy writing songs, but I think enjoy putting them out and then having savage. >> So there was a chance sure you pick up your target always make music that there’s a chance he wouldn’t put out

Another record at that point was that the way you’re thinking like it was like. >> Actually caring that not much about you know I would put out a record and not feel like I have to do it for months promotional run for I just got to put out and move on and not

Looking any that that was where I thought I would get I’m I just I think on that. with divide you are out there so long and so well we just hired in some way. >> Shape of you think the people those it was going to be

The toes big people thought it was going to be nice and you come to the end of this thing. And you have the biggest streaming some of the world’s most attendants or in the world, the highest prices are in a lot of albums sold

25 million copies and then every kind of you going and you know we’re going to do it again, but I didn’t want that pressure and what a quite like about putting out. The number 6 collaboration project was because it wasn’t really a sign around kind of plea plans the pan a little bit

Because it it obviously was never going to do as well as divided as it was in the Senate record that was pushed out in the same way it was a big primates or use it to around that and that so really pushed the pressure that Ryan was just

So let his something now let me just go off and make an album without any of this noise. >> And then the pandemic intervene so you’re sort of forced to stay home and and be with your family one that they’re so at what point did you say OK now I am ready to

Take the next step and without people. >> January of. This yeah, well you have to honor this year and that was the time I was like okay, I’m ready to go in studio again that’s about half its was written to be the right now.

John King, the Queen something yeah that was way like the bulk of the action on an issue and did Sherry encourage you to get back out there and she say you need to be nice to think that my son is Jerry so the toll it was taking online happiness,

You know, I get very fast about everything today because it is is my home like I love writing I just wasn’t right and performing side. She was very very what’s the what’s encouraging about about that and she’s very very encouraging about these perimeter as well as you want me to work as hard

As I possibly can. >> You’re about to in just a few minutes go over and play the jingle ball yet are you ready to get back out and do another one of these big tours for equal 100%. Yeah, I feel quite quite lost no.

>> On stage because that’s a much of my purpose and I have No. been on stage since like 11 years old just constantly just any any stage there is I would hope and I’m I’m place I really really like that takes a back home and you know if

We’re finding a way to do shows whether it’s 5 mosques or tests the to get to get to in all of us, I’m I’m I’m glad that size are coming about. I’m excited to get back on toll. And I can see that or stopping, I’m going to I’m going to go in

For a lot going to be a while yet. >> Does it change your calculus of all time of a baby at home, or the baby comes with you on tour and come to definitely comes with me on on so at that. >> And the tree of playing these large venues is no one

Guy’s midweek so they have to be weekend Friday Saturday Sunday every week so I have week high and then I’ll tell you I mean we’re going to spend time in any season trying to trial talking to the W about and that your camp I want to I want to

Travel to every show was. >> Electric cars and you’ve got a film that sounds like a reality series yeah sheeran’s hit the road. >> Like. I don’t think that well. obviously to write the songs conceive of it so what did you want to say with people’s that you hadn’t said that those

Previous items obviously as you said this is a snapshot of where you are in your life. But what where do you start with that first blank page. >> Honestly, there’s not unlike divine intervention. There’s just basically you start writing songs and then at some

Point stop writing songs and then you find a record and in that I’ve never really done a concept album. I mean looking at the out. It’s about the concept is turning back to get my kid losing a friend that is the

Concept and walk ins that being like and here it is just not sleep happens and for the next record. That’s the approach on site as well you just write write songs and high that they get. >> And bad habits was obviously huge, yeah, it’s a little bit

Of a different sound is that something you wanted to do with your first single. >> You know I think once it just means the same out again and again and again and it’s always nice to find different things you can put that can surprise people I’ve never done a

Side-on struck. I love the fact that I’ve summer very quietly on and it was turned out really about and very very self then it doesn’t really sound like me, and people would have to show them that I like I like I like that that Romney coming

Out about him being a and I notice all right about it right because they’re all about it on the record, but you can get to them off you’ve done the interesting ones. >> But it served disorient and probably to your fans to say what’s that isn’t entirely new sound from Ed.

>> Yeah, but but this is what happened on the shape of you say that you need to let up ended up being like a big hit. Not my friends like that we came out on their own light. And this we have cost and they’ll be like this. But now I

Played bad habits that shines on it and he’s the best reactions say sometimes. I think you go with your Cup with when songs. Like if I made some suffer my fan base will be breezy disappointed that they didn’t like that you have to be able

To stand by what what what I like about haven’t completed homes and everyone’s like we had a nice talk about. Well, I liked it. I was just this tie. >> When we move on to the next night, your fans hung in with you on that one and obviously did well.

>> I think I think radio I think yeah I think I think it was right I think that right there hammering I’m so brought people backgrounds. I wanted to hear a few times certain size, yes, definitely like a nice and kind of some you mentioned ballots wedged in between.

>> Shivers and bad habits is first times, yeah, which is a beautiful song. Thank you. What went into that. >> That was the first on the company to have my rights and Nashville and you know I I’ve achieved a lot in my career it and none of

Which was my intention in the beginning my career is not like I said list of like I have to play when the state might have to put my maps that I just want it to make music can make a living doing it so all of these

Achievements came and you find yourself in chasing it uses you know when when the same becomes possible even go okay, how can I get there this to us through this. But then I get to Wembley plant and then they like what’s the next thing and never really

Truly be happy with the result and well I found playing when we won one that I. Coming back stage, fading know anything was just too big even though his name was just like being back stage and having a beer with my now wife

And then feeling so much and being like oh my God up such a small lemon can actually mean when when such a massive >> And then I looked back. School fast times office times moment. and write write about the things that was sayin

Significant at the time like a first date was in Brooklyn that Pizza place in that time it was just we were going for pizza and now we’re married with 2 kids in that office states that first time citing significant at the time, but now it’s

Important first time about Trump’s kind of the first time in the sun to summon cried together the fest first fight we hands, you know like these these things with say just in the moment, whatever it may be possible. But in a timeline of a relationship with him.

>> When you write a song like that and played for the first time for your wife, yeah, it’s a reaction. >> Yeah, I think she really like that one, I wasn’t living with her at this point I was living in Nashville’s I I think

I might have sent it to maybe apply when when I die it was the one where that whenever we have because I’ve had my love and we have people around Dana and then we get drunk, he was the one where everyone was asked to head that you know,

I’ll get things on put us on any happy to oblige always say many times and that like weddings and someone just be like with my car and used car as as a performing because of it you really do I mean it depends depends on the situation wouldn’t go inland with it, but.

>> If you’re pulling up being on stage, I can’t imagine how many requests to get a winning edge hearings here can do that sometimes I feel like I can invite full of that. >> Having something to go all the way no thinking out loud

>> The still have moments. Speaking of being on stage at on. Wembley in from 80,000 fans were you say wasn’t that long ago actually I was prosecuting on the streets of London and now I’m selling out stadiums around the world, the still pinch yourself from time to time.

>> So we have a 9 now an eye to eye because I would say many of those small cakes and so many of the meeting games since to have them sign and he’s like I like. I mean obviously that is night those moments where I got home,

I’m really happy that I’m I’m on have I contract my whole timeline I didn’t just turn up. I contract the whole timeline and this is first paw. And I really got it did it because it because it’s made me appreciate or all of this but

I don’t I can see I can see how it got because it’s just built and built and built and built and that’s gonna be no short cuts. >> That’s the thing about overnight success it’s always over 90 people see it from the outside to the person who lived

>> Well I I I actually think with with my career but I’m it right. saying is made about that the PRI, yeah that actually I think people did. So I’ve said is the you know you get someone like Jamie Foxx talking about.

>> Having having me play the folks how in 2010 and you have someone else talk about this story of seeing me here and here with that so that is up. >> You’ve won Grammys before you’re nominated again. You still get that feeling that excitement of being nominated.

>> I think yeah I think this would be lying if if they didn’t have like an ounce. The thing with the Grammys because the that thing you think you might be next year which was shape of you and to the divine it was so struck shots out of the mine.

>> Categories and I sort of felt like is that I now shut out like is this is the thing. >> I haven’t had a some of the animation since think out not to let yourself actions was not a certain kind of felt as if

You saw that back into the club so yeah, it was a nice. It’s a nice feeling, nice painting. I don’t I don’t inception. I put so much importance on say Hopper and can buy and father had 13 nominations before 1, 1, and every time 10 up in every

Home of opportunities and at its best to put your happiness on the songs. >> That you like, and you guys had like the song and I put out whether happens happens what I said before I come to some was unsuccessful I can still stand by it.

>> It says here you say you felt like you were locked out of the Grammys because I was reading where you said some ways you feel like an outsider and pop music which I was surprised to read because to me or that successful

Personification of what pop music is and can be do you still feel that way. >> I mean I because I because yeah I like people like my stuff started like to see like I’m in I’m in the pumps today, I just

And I just like divine felt like why are we at times I feel like it took a lot of people by surprise and my fan base and and the best wonderful the toes. So next year is going to go on and do that and I found my level.

>> That’ll make sure I found an 8 and by the way I wasn’t completely shots out of the ground I think by clouds and then yeah pop I can perform in some shady been saying main catcher in the Rye I haven’t had a some I have had some of

The essences of yourself that wasn’t a very pleasant surprise. >> And a song that you to chance on the bad habits that nice to see you. >> I’m not sure what the competition is like I looked and I was like you know, but drivers license, I’m Sara ph is

That. It’s like the ice, I’m not so I’m just like I’m happy to be in involved in the cats great. I think the phone I’m not going to be quite fun, I’m set. lost a dear friend of yours Michael and there’s another beautiful song on the album called visiting hours which is

Moving not just because of your own experience with him, but anyone who listens to that it’s going to connect in some way with someone that they’ve lost who was Michael in your life and what you need to know what is the key to today. >> Mom who was

Just the best passing just fast, but he was a he was my music, my to interest rate and it was but our combat that doesn’t some him up enough like I he started off we started doing shows together and then I started staying with him all the time when I was in

Just a stray and his family and then they made friends with the cherry and then we went traveling then stated road trip for them. And then when they come up doing with that family that stay with us and Sam, the night before my wedding was

Attended with me cherry Michael and say I’m not some was a way of processing it. And releasing it felt odds. To really speak to his family and make sure they were okay with me now and they were crossing without work for in

The mix and everything and I thought friends of his. He was involved in that Chris sing on the track and stuff. I think what’s nice about this is it. I don’t feel like it’s about my situation, my cool as much anymore because it belongs to

70 on the PDA I have a I call it the other day he’s moment possible right and he has a fractured relationship with his dad and he said he sent not some night nothing else to send that some of the message. His dad and his dad knew

Exactly what he meant and they said this my mom just being like I understand yes I understand with a song. So if music like that is and what it means it can be language from anything even if even let happy times like cherry sons mean

Churn of country music special send the country some of the like I think we yeah. >> It’s not the best part of your job that you sit in a room alone and write a song that may be personal to you and then it

Goes out into the world and comes back to you and all these incredible ways and someone saying I have this experience in my life and this fix something for us Sir. >> I think it’s I I think it is an incredible pop but it’s not

My favorite part my for my favorite was actually creates a fit the feeling you get from France and I write something something to get released that just fun in the mindset to right, but it’s definitely a positive thing well, I liked about some icing as you can have a really really negative

Like you can have a spiral and B is down and dog as candy and write something from that and it’s true that comes light, I think that’s what’s amazing about some lightning as it is a form of therapy, but it’s a form of therapy that brings. So much joy to people and yourself.

>> It’s therapy for other people to I was listening to the song in the car and and visiting hours immediately think of someone yeah that you wish you didn’t have that last visit with and can go speak to and bring them back because I think with with with with.

>> Visiting hours. It’s not necessarily about bringing them back because I’m like I know that that is a part of life but it’s about clearing the Abbott full right because we were going to die. And when we do possibly we will spend time

With the people that we’ve lost but it’s about clearing the and 4 men being like whoa what I’ll see you in however many years rather than what I can like about situations. It’s a final and they say many things that on that say what was what was nothing about things that my

That was my that’s here for a week before he passed away. My wife got video messages from everyone I love and he sent this like seven-minute message about what his favorite memories and they know best times, yeah, and so at this is facing at least like I have that but that’s not it.

I wish that was just 5 minutes just yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Have those last thing said he left with a legacy of a lot of wind in your wine cellar. >> I understand even more. One recent send more to that.

Yes I his drink with 10 fold 7 I 7 I feel because he drunk it It was fun to watch even drink the at the paper. So I assumed light. it was like $5.10. So you can stay at my house. I just in the

Bunch, another bill and I look forward to have like these polls and in the Senate that mean him actually go through my son. The 9 possibly have 7 left and the meme I mean the moment that a security guard. My wife to satin finish them which is

Actually really nice then will K have actually started collecting in and it was when evidence it was pop up in England’s of I I I thought when I I like I haven’t right around me made me as he may be a statue of himself. Site that we

Finish tool in Australia and he said that what you want as a gift. I was like the life-size bronze statue of you he was like oh they had this thing right well. Well, it’s funny is I have one made me that’s 10 foot at a time and shipped its. It’s just it

Didn’t make it in time and use okay, so that they can make inside is just turned up at his house and his wife right. And 10, but one thing is that she. It was we’re getting it done as well because I got it done by a scout to in my

Hometown that he was quite hush hush about it and have lights people working like Larry working on it today, the light was a a 10 foot stature in so say this is a bit with yeah, he’s really changed. It’s yeah, it was pretty I mean it’s pretty awesome taisha.

>> So this is your home away from home when you come to New York Times takes so we have for the what would you like that I think the Guinness is on right now. A dealer’s choice, the like. And we are. >> So what’s the connection to the hounds to to told with

Tonight Show back in 2012. And when we played New York and certainly had and they are in a piece of this book and so I I had it when I play Madison Square Garden miles but it was head. We’ve got a few other times. When I played it for a claim

When I play broken up late that Barclays center right and then. Jay Z beyonce com source the shy I think I’m hit off to we had a little lamb might try to understand with them for the end zone guitars and there’s some of these

Issues that we just had to jam playing 5 songs. >> And Jay Z and beyonce were at that session. Yeah like a variable you can vary a curb on that you know I think you probably since the anybody who knows you anybody’s work with

The for a long time says you just haven’t changed really from. 10 years ago when you were patrol, I think I have that and I think that’s natural you grown for sure that person but I’m just saying in terms of your generosity and humility and things like that.

How do you keep your head about you when you’re standing in front of 80,000 screaming fans were singing all these lyrics back to you that you wrote. I think. >> Like I obviously have an ego on stage because you have to

Walk out in front of a 1000 people in 90 minutes time and you have to have a New Year’s Day that you have to walk on stage and be like I got this because if you if you don’t giggs not going to get but you have to switch off when you

Step off stage. That’s that that’s the case and not snow sometimes about its not everyone gets right in step of staging a still the guy and I switch on I go off on stage and and detained when I come off, I just got about

Time, I feel like it’s 2 separate people as my phone. My stage name as you. And that’s just me single inning I want to talk about myself, but that person but as to 2 different stuff and then I know from from you as well because you you are presented light.

>> As you have to have 2 different things but it’s harder for you because if you walk out the door this far right now the world can turn off the switch they see and descend on you. >> But that’s the that’s the adjustment that I mean the fact

That almost coming up to 11 years and this with that amount of attention and you just find ways to have it fit in your life like I don’t go anywhere on plans and if I do it will be around them times and I never and the essential elements of

Our Friday night at that time I go to central London’s of on Tuesday off tonight. Yeah, kind of have the same effect now you have people walking around London on Tuesday, afternoons looking for it given that the secret is the thing I call on the way strongest

Someone like me and I love going place in the lot. >> Well you hit I love that last question before I let you go so you had this 5 album plan or 4 albums and is it too obvious for me to expected to have them will be

Subtract or -2, you know what that will be at so that will be yeah I. >> I don’t know if there’s another record before that I think that will be part of that in the 5 out of town that is certainly going to be the 5th one bright spot.

I’ve been making ahead of a lot of music reason not to have a staff so I think I’m going to be releasing more frequently I think I think that’s the news and you know, when you look at now someone like out John he was released 3 albums in the 70’s

Beaches in where I was in 7 us so I think the way that. >> Drake is doing it now tightest and Iran is doing and how he’s doing now, but that’s the new Norm just constant constant news. >> And you’re doing that right now, I mean you’re

Collaborating with some pretty exciting people you mention, John yeah, it’s messy it’s a Christmas and that number one thing that you guys what is that most of it so much fun. >> Yeah, I think that we’ve reached out to ask me to do it

Last Christmas and I it wasn’t like an instant yes, I know you think that probably would because I love when Joan Cusack and him him him as a person. But it wasn’t actually and so Michael passed away that it turned into absolute definite yes, because it just that hit

High that tomorrow isn’t promised and I was like why did I get out and that’s due in 2023. And also why us what I white said to us without like he’s also a close friend of mine. >> Get some perspective on all that absolutely and it’s so

Great to talk to you thank you for your time and it’s a busy week with pre she thank you so much, thanks man. >> You know, it’s great to see you. It is great to be seen. Can we just start with this? This outfit? Tell me who were wearing what we’re wearing all

>> Where we are officially in the memory librarian. of that. This is a look inspired by the leave care there. Some shot. Who is the main library and this is custom I’m Deborah Rhodes. Co 2 or so works with. I’m not sure

Is the designer. She and I went back and forth on this list >> We took an informal poll of doing the show for 6 years. today. You officially have the coolest human being I’ve ever sat across from. So just wanted to give you that honor. And thank you very much.

>> What I would love to take that I’m an injury, right? So I’m not 100% human right to have to give that to someone else. Yes. Yeah. I appreciate the offer 100 mike and side he’s on. >> So I can’t wait to dig in and talk to you about this

Extraordinary book. I was saying to you, OK, gentleman, want to come out with a book. Maybe it’s a memoir. You have an amazing personal story as well. And you said I don’t think so. I want to write something a little more challenging. So just for people who are thinking about picking

This up, is it even possible it a little louder? Explain what this book is about. >> So the new library and this book, this short story collection was grown from the same soil as dirty computer. My turn to go to an album and film that I released. The train

Now that he’s made a special you lost. >> You didn’t mean anything at all. >> The memory librarian deals with this totalitarian society. A regime new dawn new dot is kidnapping dirty computers. People who were not assimilate. People that refuse to not walk in there for authenticity. Don’s taking their memories, spy been

Cleaned and giving them new identities. And so each story deals with protecting is black and brown folks, folks in LGBTQ plus communities who just refuse to assimilate. >> The story. I mean, obviously there are echoes of your own story in here. I think it’s fair to say given the groups

That are represented in this book and also you’re being if I may have dirty computer yourself with him, which is to say you’re not going to be something that the culture wants you to be here. The music business wants you to be. So did these stories all come from somewhere within you?

>> Yeah, I’m I’m sprinkled in a in a lot. But it’s a community, you know, and that was super important community making sure that not just my own personal stories about presenting. But there’s so many of my friends, my family members, my friends in the trans community that I wanted to

Highlight and non-binary community like there’s so much of us. There’s so much intersection and I wanted to get into the nuance. I worked with the lie down Johnson on the memory librarian which, you know, was a thought experiment that I have. I was like, what if there was this memory

Librarian this this this black woman who literally kept and stored the memories of everybody in the city, but she knew their pie. That’s before you know before they were wiped clean. She knew who they were. This memory librarian wants to fall in love. How do you fall in love

When you know everybody secrets and time box. I worked on with Eve valuing. It speaks about time poverty for black and brown folks who have been having to spend a significant amount of time just trying to reach the American dream, go find the boots to really pull, you know, ourselves up

From from without bootstraps, whatever that whole terminology and like really thinking about, if you could get time that reclaiming my time in the words of Mexican waters, how to reclaim your time. And so even I had a wonderful time doing that. And then,

You know, should we win? A Thomas worked on the show. Started with a time box altered. I worked on one with an ear or call never mind and so changes with a >> I’m so fascinated by this sort of the origins of this

Story because it’s an allegory that speaks as you just laid out everything that’s happening our culture right now. But it’s such a different way to tell the story than just coming out and saying it to create this place in the future. All these things happen.

It’s kind of like your music to is always original. It’s always interesting. How was this born? Where does the dirty computer concept come from? Where does all this come from within you? >> A real living. I had a nightmare and I woke up and my phone. I just had to like

Record everything that could be remembered. But I had a nightmare that I was and a movie theater went to the popcorn, was walking out of my seat and especially with like, come with me, come with me, their kidnapping people come to this back. Interesting. I was

Like get away from me. I was watching a movie and I started to sit down in my seat and I was taken and I was kidnapped. Fool memories erased. And I woke up a completely different person. And so as I started to really think about it and try to figure out

What does this mean, what it says? I was in the middle of working on this album. I just connected identity to do so many people’s identities who have been race. This whole concept is pretty meta. You know, I wrote it. It’s you know, it was the fictitious. But

Look what’s going on with great at it. Governor DeSantis, they are putting in the law that you can. You talk about the lgbtqi plus come the in schools, their schools and states that you can talk about race. The razor of identity is happening right now. Systemically like people are

I’m doing that to kids to teenagers and to families and is wrong. I’m encouraging young people to read it to find solace and to find hope and find strength. Those who are in the position of power to fight back against these folks who don’t recognize us as complete human beings. We deserve

To feel seem to feel heard. >> The book is such an a compliment to and a part of the activism that you’ve already been doing for for a long time. That so central, I think to your life, is it nice to have the voice in the platform? Because if your

Talent writing and singing songs that people will listen to you and people are going to buy this book and that you can get that message out. >> I hope to be provided. But, you know, like everybody may not necessarily mean that’s fine. I come to

That school. You know, one of the things that I wish I would have really known early in my career was that everybody will love you. And that’s okay. I love it. And I love what it is that we’re doing with this

Book and the story since I was no a child timeless, but also since I was a child, I was writing short stories. I was writing science fiction source stores. I have one where this alien Cain and was talking to a plant through photos sentences and

Ended up taking my whole neighborhood. And my grandma when you’re a kid, yeah, to being home as you go. So the iOS time response and stuff like that. And then I went on to write for the young playwrights, the cause of the theater where we write the short stories and if they were

Good enough to local actors will perform them. So I always had a love of literature storytelling. And that’s what I feel like. My I think news in music and fashion and art is like telling stories, right? The Bible tells stories. You see how many people are

Obsessed with all of the stories in the Bible. You know, that’s how you keep the name of Jesus alive. And I’m just trying to do the lord’s work. the kind of people you write about in this book, 2 black and queer people in this country. Was that a difficult decision

For you to step out front and say this is exactly who I am, take me or leave me and to have did to put that out there. Are you completely comfortable with that? The thing about? >> Who I am as we change this version, I think being a human is performed.

I’m performing a version who I think you know what they should do every day I wake up and I’m making choices about how moved based on the feedback that I could about who I should be. I don’t represent everybody. You know, I can only speak from

My truth where I’m at the time, right? If it residents of the next always like yay. But a lot of you talking out loud to the world is really for myself like I need to say, because in my head, I probably said mean things about myself based on what the world tells

Me. I should be, you know, my home things that I probably have had to heal through, which ahead. But it’s so much negative talk that is I kind of overcompensate. You like I’m here. I’m right here. President. This is so that’s always really good to get that out. Yeah.

>> And we were talking before we started here just about getting to a place and you touched on it a minute ago in your life in your career where you can just say it being you are not worry about how people react to it. That’s got to be a great candidate for.

>> You can’t? Yeah. I think I hear like a good even those 5%. Those are the moments of the most disappointing. Like why did you care about that? Why did you allow that? Still your moment? But I mean, I’m like flow right now in the most

Carefree. I have anything to prove space that I’ve ever been as an artist. And you can feel it in my music, my conversations. And he’s so honest, too, just like why wasn’t I? This president has spent so much time in the

Future and worry and is it in all of those things? But this is it. This is the trip. You know, this is the the the the gold. This is what I should have been. And now I’m doing everything I can to like. Stay president. Feel like I’m on my Second Earth Life.

Yeah. And that started recently. Yeah. Because there’s life when you haven’t healed like to live that life like after you feel that’s a whole nother lines. You know, that’s life. You have clear you have a clear vision and that’s why >> it’s got feel great. I mean, there are so many people who

Listen to that and say, OK, it’s easy for gentleman to say that he’s achieved this level of success. How do I get to that place in my daily life where I’m not worried about what people think about how do I get to that second life that

You’re talking about? What would you say to fans of yours who say I want to be like her? >> I think I was interested my own voice. That’s what I think was happening. But how are you going to let him tell him, you know who you are

More than you telling yourself who you are like? I know myself. I know my true like and I think that’s where it comes from the start thinking that somebody else has the answer, the formula people can give you advise people can so. But when I get a guest, an idea

That’s between me and the creator, it wasn’t a big mass email sent down everybody. Here is what now news to do. Where do you guys think they weren’t involved on the deal on the front? So why am I doing that? And then I think when I think about that,

Some trust her own voice over that. Yeah, that light. You got to get to a point where you trust you more than you trust them. And another thing I thought about I was like, you know, the world judges eyes for whatever reason. There’s always going to be somebody playing that role

Of the judge or right. Why do I need to palm and just myself, the position is retaking, go do something else so that I can look at that, too. >> That’s so so well said. Have you always had that level of confidence and self assured you have your own life going

Back to Kansas City when you were a kid and performing all those things that does take some confidence for a child. Have you always felt this way a little bit? I did. >> Yeah, I was very confident the child, but then I lost it

Because then you know too much. You start to get in middle school and high school. You get feedback on what they what what the culture thinks is cool. And if you’re not the club, you know, you start second guessing yourself, but I’m back to back to my child. You know, that didn’t

That just wasn’t concerned about what was to the left and the right. Always forward. where that performance coming your life. You read anything into how that was born for you. >> Well, my dad also with a musician performer. And so I grew up in a house

When I went to my grandmother’s house, she was planned or an incident in charge of the grandmother was playing the piano dueling piano lesson singing in church. So I never had a family that told me that I couldn’t do this like they always encourage. You know, I’m thankful for that because those

Are here was your first ride, the ship first like fan. You know, they tell you they let you know, this is good. And I’m even my with my little sister, always be live, shot high. And that would just make me want to know, do it, do it

>> Of course, of course. And then eventually you end up more. here. Yeah, York for a little bit. You’re so talented. You get the scholarship to come here. What was that like to go from Kansas City to turn up in New York City?

>> It was a culture shock. Yeah. I went from like all blacks who high school minority schools have been like the only black person in my class here and then it was like this big city. I commuted 40 blocks every single day. I live on 148 in Amsterdam. Someone to 72nd

Street every day. A share of the in a room with my cousin. Yeah, I was I was struggling, but it may. It just made me so much stronger and also tell me what I did want to do, right? I thought I want to do Broadway and I’ll probably end up doing

It. Come on. Turn one writes Something. I don’t want to do anything that anybody else because I wasn’t really inspired by what I’ve seen before. Performers, the leading roles in this kind of like options were slim. So I moved to Atlanta and that’s why we

Started. I don’t want in our society arts collective when I met other people that look like me that really had ideas like I had him also teaching new things. And we just were like, let’s just do this independently. That’s right. Less direct. Let’s and it was like

Become the you print, not the blueprint. So I’ve been trying to do ever since. I don’t do that. >> And they’re pretty well. I mean, just you go to Atlanta. Big voice. Easy on stage. Yeah. What I love about that part of the stories you say

They didn’t try to make you into this marketing object or to to maybe they allowed you to be who you are. What you’ve continued to be. Was there ever pressure along your rise to be someone else say you should maybe dress this way or make songs for the radio

And all that? And if so, how did you ignore? >> That I was everybody thinks they’re smart, everybody and some people have really great ideas. But I mean, I just trusted me. I knew I knew I was like now this is there’s a different way. And I think I had some meetings

Where I got told no, and I was just like, OK, well, if I walk in a room, I at least want to be told no, because I was being my authentic self. I want to be in the room because of somebody else saying do this, do that, do that?

The others flip side of that, though, is I think that also maybe feel like I had prove something and prove that a lot to talk about science fiction and some dressed like this. I can just because I’m black, but I was just in that type of

Music. I’m going to click that then that out. And that was important because I felt like it was a cultural recent one K now a cultural russa and people needed to see that particular image. I think now I look back on my man. I could put my sword out. I have to fight.

I have to spend so much of my career just fighting. I’m just going to prove and approve this improved. That can be successful in this way. I have to do. You know, I can’t like I was limiting myself even as like a collective. Can you listen to my albums and

Concepts all of that? There was still one was why didn’t give myself permission to have fun? Because I felt like I needed to be serious, just militant innocence. And I’m just it went through like the anger of feeling like being miss some of the moments we’re

Going to him 5. So now this part of my life is going to be >> Something just from is something you just said just like caught my ear. You said it was a cultural reset when you came on the scene. What you mean by that?

>> I’m kind of done this sort of retrospective on my first come out. But I’ve seen it was like it’s a glitch in the Matrix, something new on the scene that doesn’t look or feel or sound like anything yet in that movie inspired by. But

The way that they are using that energy is just different. Everything will be different. >> And the people who inspired you, it seems to me have that same energy. Is that theres a print? Stevie Wonder, Lauren Hill, there’s a long list of people who are right there kind

Of like you and that they didn’t go with the grain. They brought something else. Is that why you were last on the artists like those? Yeah, I mean, I lived to be obsessed with Lauren Hill. I know. But I know I could be her life.

>> It’s only one line here. So I had to figure out how to be the best. Janelle Monae, you know, how how could I what was not what what was the thing that I was going to we bring in now as want to come like, what am I adding

Culture? One of my head into the industry might having my saying. So that was cool. But I mean, Prince and Stevie are just like incredible here. And they never let there mystery who they were like the Giants that they need to clean get in the way of the mentor ship.

I’m so thankful that early on in my career, I’ve been able to have some, you know, in my life as people I can talk to. >> Isn’t it crazy have talked to other artists and actors about this. You look up to someone as a kid when you’re coming up, but really

Printer Stevie Wonder Live in some other stratosphere in your mind and then all of a sudden you’re working with them and even face a new album. Yeah. Is that a wild thing to make that leap into their world? Very. >> It was. But then you look at you say these are

These are people who like myself, you know, just had a light, have something you want to say and idea. And, you know, maybe they took some time and maybe home life wasn’t perfect. He just trusted their gut throughout those moments in. We’re anchored in knowing that it’s much bigger than you and me.

And that’s what our ways I feel most alone, a disconnect from everybody. And I’m like I’m up here. But on one, you know, on one with everything. And I think that they serve as a reminder and have music serves as a reminder. When we come together, we can be on the same frequency.

That’s when you feel close to God. That’s when you feel the universe as one. We just like fabric in a larger quit. why you said you wear a tuxedo on which has become kind of a uniform for you and it’s hi back to your childhood, right? Yeah. Parents wearing

Uniforms workweek last. Yeah. What is that tuxedo mean to you in that context? >> Yeah, I put it on all. Is that about my family? And you know, my mom used to survey bankrolled. She was a janitor and my dad, no trash bin. I’m going to cook food for

The county jail for 25 years. So I come from a hard-working Glenn’s family. I think that’s one big on community. I have 14 on first cousins, ensembles working class like they worked as off to make sure that their name their kids, my cousins, all of us could a beautiful summer’s and picnics in

We should go to amusement parks and all of that. So for me, I try to, you know, as much as I can not buy this book, I want to bring a community of people. Riders with me could have done a memoir Coffee table, but but this was better.

And it’s just instilled in me is like a gift and a curse. And since has become my quick work and you don’t play play play by on that. I’ve worked for a very long time and I was serious. And now I’m like if we’re not talking about vacation,

I don’t want to talk like we’re supposed to be having the best or worst experience of our lives. Why are we getting caught up in a Web based? Yes, and we have to work with leaders about new drivers, things we also need to make time. Amen to that.

>> Before I let you go up to ask you how the film roles fit into this puzzle. But we look at Moonlight and hidden figures and knives out 2 very excited that you’re going to be in that. How do you view acting in this this picture of your career this quilt?

>> I love getting into different characters. I told you the human experience is 4 minutes. One time a 5th man This is one big play reoccurring characters. Some people in. I love some same archetypes. Come back. I love acting. I love exploring the human condition. My hope is

That in terms of the short stories and 2 to some projects that that would be cool. How about that were in talks? >> They say this feels like a series to me. Yeah. Yeah. Let’s make that and thank you so much. And it’s a pleasure

Talking to you. Jen, thanks so much. Thank you. >> Every thanks for doing this man, thank you and we should stipulate a few things for people watching and listening it’s about a 102 with the Heat index is what it is I don’t

Know I don’t know so far a little Dewey yes that will. And that will be the reason why we’re outside which were outside on a summer day yes, and we should also say you demanded it was a note that you wrote and wrote yes, I have to

Be in front of a billboard. Well what I like is to have a billboard to remind me that I did have some semblance of a professional job before the pandemic so I like to have that as a reminder for myself, yeah, there are some.

So let’s talk about that what it’s been like I mean it’s when we all started this 2 marches ago you probably thought you know, I’ll be in my apartment for a couple weeks and now here we are what 15 months later, yeah. What is it

Like for you now as compared to the beginning and you settle into this kind of show. >> You know I don’t think anybody has settled into anything during this period. I think what has been imof te is that unlike any ougd other time in human history medical you will you are

Affected by the pandemic in some way shape or form some of us manage the better than others because of the resources we had and some of us didn’t know some of us had a took a mental, you know toll it took a mental toll on us that maybe

Other people didn’t experience and so I think what’s been really interesting is the best Aussie of questions to say I’ve gone through phases. There was the initial period of the pandemic we I thought you know, I’m going to find 21 days because that’s what they said

21 a plan yet 21 days left in the 21 days and then I thought you know it might be 2 months. And then we hit that period, especially when we got into like you know the win to months with was like man this is this is just unrelenting it’s

Nonstop and it just keeps on going. And and you have the best way I can put it is I’ve been surviving and I think like many people out there. I’ve been coping in these moments where feel like a chemical and no moments ago like I’m fine I can do this but

It is definitely not being a normal situation or do I try to make it normal so how do you as a performer your stand-up comedian your life is in front of an audience. Tell a joke get the response. You get the affirmation the thing I thought of rights was great.

>> How do you adjust that doing the late night comedy show where you’re in a little nook in your apartment. I just because I have to. >> And that’s that’s what’s been the one thing that has saved me mention his understanding that the situation is therefore I have to be

You know, and so one of the quickest things I did with the pandemic was I accepted the reality of what I was giving him and I think that’s where a lot of people struggle is they didn’t accept it when when we come back to the office when we

Want our kids going back to school and it’s going to cost those questions but not to live in a perpetual state of not accepting a reality and so for myself I literally just had to say well what if they would never want to and says and what

If you never win the studio and what if you never had space and what if you never never never never never act accordingly because what I what I realized very quickly was I was going to lose my mind if I can waiting for something that was never

Going to end right or something that might never change and so yeah, I I found as a performer I had to find a different gear. A different conversation that I would be having with an audience because like you and I now. This is similar to how I make the show.

I think of one person think of one set of eyes. Almost a collective ideal human being who watches my show it’s almost the imprint from the people who came to the studio. Yeah and I go OK that person is here now I’m talking to them what would I like to say to men.

>> Life is spring back to normal. There are a lot of shows are thinking about coming back or will have come back. How are you viewing the next few weeks or months and getting yourself back into that studio. Well that’s the first thing I have to say I’m not going back.

How am I going forward, you know and so like many people who have been lucky enough to emerge from the pandemic I’ve had to ask myself one of the lessons. I’ve learned from this time. >> And how will that affect ord months my life moving forward

And that is no difference to the office I have 2 last questions for all of us how many days a week do we need to be here physically. What are we doing and why we’re doing how we’re doing it how do I want to live my life, you know,

According to the show in the show in court as to my life. How do I want to figure out those pieces. I think those are some of the things that I that I’m trying to figure out now so for myself, what is the studio.

What is the studio I go back to what is the journey. Unfortunately, Zola things from the play with and what I don’t want to do try and go back to life as if this thing didn’t happen right because I get everyone in my life if you’re going to live as

If the the pandemic didn’t happen man. You you you you you almost living in denial because this has been one of the greatest existential threats to human kind that we’ve seen in a very long time. >> Presidential election. The new president and insurrection and had the murder of George Floyd just over a

Year ago. When you and I talked I think it’s about 3 years ago. Yeah, we were in that studio and you said some things that I think at the end of the day that just to be funny. However, I deliver it different ways and other late night shows we had a laugh

Again right so how do you navigate. Those heavy heavy heavy issues and those heavy moments in our society and still be funny about it in the way been for the last year and >> I asked myself what the purpose of that funny is change.

And I think that’s something that during the pandemic have really crystallized in myself as a human being I’ve come to realize, but I don’t use humala to be little or to make fun off a situation, I use humor as a coping mechanism. I use you

Want to remind myself of where I was to be as a person, you know, and that is in a place where smiling in a place where not everything is is the worst in the world. That’s what I think comedy does you know what when it when a child

Falls, our baby hurts themselves. What’s the first thing you’re trying to get them to turn off again welcome to smile. You don’t because you want them to forget the pain but because you want them to remember how they were before that pain into

Their lives and so now when I make the show what I realize is I can use humans as a pressure release valve. You know for the moments and I can assure you she looked to to almost deconstruct what is happening, you know sometimes human whole chickens, very honest. Yes.

You know, and so what I’m really trying to do now is say to an audience tune in to my show. If you would like to be kept abreast of what’s happening in the world. And if you don’t want to feel like it’s all doom and gloom because I don’t believe it is.

I don’t believe we can have a live like it is because if that’s the case that we’ve lost all hope and if we’ve lost all hope what’s the point of that. >> How do we get back to some place where we can have conversations where it’s not just about the

Tweet that was a burner that you know how that’s what politicians do now. Yes, they just want to signal to their side that I’m fighting for you is that we how do we get back somewhere a perfect somewhere in the middle where we can talk.

>> So I think there are a few things that I’ve had to acknowledge for myself as a person is one who am I talking to unwind you know I think there are a lot of bad faith act is out a lot of people who don’t want to have a conversation with you

They just want to quote put knew it, I’m not trying to have a conversation with that person. But there are many people who I am trying to have a conversation with and so when you asked me how I think we can get there, I don’t know

How the we can be collectively but to go to the old adage of trying to be the change. You know I will try and talk to as many people I don’t agree with as possible. I’ll try to engage them in a civil manner, you know I try

And stay away from from like the straight up like Bam Bam, you don’t don’t get me wrong. Still to tell jokes, I’m still going to have fun with that and if you come at me, I will come out come back at you with a joke. That’s I mean that’s

Still a comedian and that way when it comes to like hard conversations. I would like to have those more and more people. You know I’d like to have. Well moments where I engage someone in a space where we know we don’t agree.

We both see each other as human beings right I want to practice that more and more and more as a person and so on a science a level I don’t think it is possible for us to ever get back to that until we look at all of the things that

That make it impossible so social media social media fundamentally makes it impossible because it is designed to get as much engagement as possible. That’s how they generate what they generate you know, and so maybe there’s a way to clean that up maybe there’s a way to

Say the social media company’s hey we’re incentivizing you to find some way to make people not just enemies with each other stop putting these posts up of Willie with Travis says he wants to burn down his house. You know he doesn’t need to see that House and helping him right.

And in media, I think we we have a role to play in. We only board costing conflict or are we trying to have civil conversations, you know the the thing that I was trying to punch people is this. You know this is like how I think of my show I go

I don’t pretend to not be biased I have my opinions and I share them with people what I hope we can start to do more than society is agree on a reality that we can fight about that reality right, you know, so think of it like a game of basketball.

Everyone is fighting over the same ball in the same room, but they all agree that those things that we can fight about how the game is played that was a file that was in the fall, you know you’ve got this many points on the PGA. But you’re a

Green, the reality of the game right now in society we getting to a place where we don’t even agree to this report. >> How’s it been for you to gain the Biden administration obviously much different from the Trump administration that you approach the show differently with this man in the office definition definitely.

>> I mean there is no lying that Donald J Trump was I think it was Jeff Zucker hold in the spectrum is a one man publicity wrecking ball machine. Tiffany says chaos. Yeah, you know, there’s no denying that’s what Donald Trump will now while that I think had good

Elements because it brought people into politics that won’t necessarily been interested before the downside was you know became about him and I I honestly believe most issues in society and not about don’t trust him on all his faults and all because of him he might be a symptom but

He’s not the course and so because he was really good at garnering the attention it then it then made society and able to have conversations around the real issues that were taking place. >> You know and so now I’m trying to focus more on the

Issues than on the politics of issues because that’s the thing about America as well and I’ve really come to realize especially during the pandemic is America makes everything political. Everything is left or right everything is ready to go up like that

You know I hear people that I’m in America say well as a Republican well as the Democrats, I’ve never said that phrase in my life because we’ve never done in some African the once as well as Nancy supple as a da support no one says that.

In fact where I’m from we would spend more time criticizing the people who voted for the people who didn’t vote for because you elected them to do something that you want ogle you would criticize them right America’s really interesting in that regard and I think that that discourse doesn’t mean people

To have real conversations, a mosque isn’t political. And so. How you use an way use these are things that people can discuss what it should be political. You get them saying, yeah trash shouldn’t be political. Any conversation in life shouldn’t be political. So many that should be political.

And yet we’re making that and so what I’m trying to do now and Biden delivered on one thing that promised on and that was he’s going to be the president that nobody wants to talk about said that’s been great because now we get to delve into issues that affect everybody because one thing

That I think every American can agree upon is regardless of who’s in office. >> There are still people are struggling to pay the rent there are still people who are struggling they haven’t seen a wage increase in years there are still people who don’t know

With the children will be able to go to school there are still people who don’t know how they’re going to put food on the table there are still people who don’t if they can afford health care that will always happen from administration to administration. So I think it

Goes beyond politics and so now on the show I look at the issues and then we’ll touch on the politics that may affect it, but I think when you have more interesting conversations about what affects us as human beings. >> You had a pretty good strategy during the

Trump, here’s what he said in our a previous interview to is huge, I refuse to be to the outrage you just can’t be outraged every minute of every day and have a healthy life run to a comedy show so did that help you get through those

4 years of Donald Trump are you you couldn’t look at every tweet yeah, definitely. >> You know I think a lot of people also like to get enraged, you know that Trump tweeted this is a good, but you don’t have to look at all these tweets all Trump made this joke

At a rally he made that joke to his people not to get angry about everything that the person is doing. I would always say to people think about what’s offending you and what’s affecting. They’re 2 separate things. You know I I would even say

That with even happened with comedians in and around that time, you know, people getting angry comedians and when I come from you say now you say that when you say that I don’t think people shouldn’t be held accountable, don’t get me wrong. But I also think people have tossed themselves

Sometimes in life are you allowing yourself to become enraged by things that I’m not happening to necessarily we’re going to go out of your way to find the thing that somebody said look at what this person said in Thailand on the train is that can make you angry now.

You know to me you’re living in Ohio and you’re going to anger about what someone said in another country on the continent to another person that we cannot live like that and so what I learned stew or sauce myself what is affecting us. I want to just offending

The things that are affecting people, let’s deal with those issues things that are offensive. You can have fun with them that’s comedy. >> You’re also going back and doing standup I understand got it coming up, yes, I am what’s the plan. There

Is there one yet. Yeah, there is as I’m excited and this has been the longest period since I’ve started stand-up that I haven’t done stand-up you know and so I actually was going to wait a little bit longer and then I did a show with Dave Chappelle and Chris Walken show Wolf at

The stand in New York it was a suppression difficult to come and watch the show and he tricked me in the mix. Watch on stage. I don’t actually way to the segment time let’s go. And what I realized even in that moment when I was on the

Stage I didn’t have anything prepared for that moment, I didn’t have an idea, but you know what it felt like home, I could feel the audience was starting to learn how to be an audience again we’re all experiencing this thing together. And that’s why for myself comedy something I could never live done

Because how many times in life we’re going to experience or how many times have we taken from grandson. The space where hundreds or even thousands of people can come together for the purpose of the last thing we need having a good time enjoying themselves month that a fight

With a dog about which team should win ocean would love the cheer about politics, but just off and I didn’t appreciate it as much as I do know, I’ve always loved it. But post pandemic I appreciate more than ever before and so I’m getting back

On the road, I’m excited to be doing shows again, I’m getting ready of got my show London preparing things will be a little bit of what’s happened a little bit of nothing which is great I’ll be telling jokes about I don’t know 16th century

In of that article stuff. Yeah, let’s take a break from politics peshawar that’s what I miss about stand up as well, you know, I study shows were like I would have liked people that like I’m Republican the to people even say I don’t like

The politics, but I like your comment was like well come to my comedy comes to the show. Good enough for me right, a man with human beings and they were going to have to live in the same world so we can find spaces and places where we can interact with each other.

Then we do yeah and you’ve also got the film coming up for a crime which I was looking back to that book. >> Sitting on the New York Times bestseller list literally for years, I can’t you never could have imagined could do

It. He said it was going to sit down and tell my story here it is that it became this phenomenon. >> I told the story and I shared an experience I share the story of a mother and some and I share the story of a country.

Coming out of one of the craziest periods in human history has apartheid and trying to establish itself as a democracy. I honestly did not think in any way shape or form this would become what it is today, no I didn’t sink. People still reading the book years later still be on the New

York Times best sellers in this one. If the number one or double book of all time I didn’t I didn’t think I think kids will be learning in school. >> And now your mother must be pleased that the Pizza Hut. What’s interesting so my mom doesn’t care for celebrity at

It doesn’t keep up with that she doesn’t know anything about all. it at all she was just happy which show that she saw the picture on doesn’t know the details but she was just like a good moment, he is about things from people in the street which is hilarious for me.

So some will come up to us to be like wow you’re going to be a movie to watch what was it like in a movie with women to move initial for me like I’m going to put me in a movie and

I’m like no you’re not going to be the move, I’m making a movie about how the book and life and she’s like okay, okay, so next, I’m going to act seeing you. She goes on. I call the pizza, no one should whose that’s going to send you

A picture and this is her and I sent it all came on very high. Very I’m very happy and I’m happy that this an African woman because I’m an African woman. >> As a cue thing. You like what we did this come from my

Mom was just like mash is simple and living her life as awesome that is incredible. >> What about for you personally to walk in the building with a billboard in New York City and the site given where you come from everybody has read the story in your book

Do you ever stop yourself with oh wow I can’t believe how this has turned out. It can get the truth of it. The truth is it’s a gift and a curse. Everything in life I think has its gifts and this question is on the one hand.

>> Obviously coming from a life where sometimes in my family, we didn’t know who would have food on a day to live the life that into them like mad company this is unsafe. You know I can order remains and the spotify one.

That’s one of the biggest things are a go at me that I’m not even light. I’m not even like to you and I go I have both and I really still go man I’m blessed really blessed and then there are times when I see a

Billboard or see a post and I’m like that’s me that is that’s insane that is me this company how far I’ve come. And I’m happy because I put my family with me and for my my friends and my community and I have been able to help people

Because of that that’s the gift. The curse is the fact that you have a billboard, you know, I mean, but people take this for granted if I’m in a salmon like a lot of them on in the line somewhere and something goes wrong someone spill something or someone kicks whatever.

>> I can just be like. You just got to breathe. >> Because if you’re not careful someone to take a video he likes losing his cool when we should all be allowed to use our Kuwaiti yes, but I but I because if I’m not careful

Didn’t think so comes of this crisis. Yes, you know, because you I think you can use a little bit of the Ol of the way you would live in if you weren’t likes of failed for snow, you get to the point >> When you eat you like someone taking. This is how I

Small bites nothing too big. This is how I eat because you know the one time you like. That’s the picture that you give them say oh yeah, of course is one of those things. situation, you are out on hiatus when he was murdered

Right to May’s ago what were those couple of. We saw those days like for you as it sort of stewed in your mind and you figure out how to handle it. >> When George Floyd was merit it. And when we started to with Miss America.

In one of the most tumultuous periods we’ve ever seen. >> I was actually grateful for the fact that I wasn’t on it because I now didn’t have to react to what was happening. But I could observe. I could listen to people. I could see what was happening. The biggest emotion I had was

I see a lot of people now who try and create a Mont out of George Floyd the black man what George Floyd did was George Floyd did nothing was done to him. If you choose to be a monster known that he wants to know should he have been

And so what I was experiencing this as many other people were you lost and so many questions about life. Why is it so hard for us to have honest conversations about policing in America. Why is it hard for us to connect this human beings in around a life that was lost.

Why does it have to feel like acknowledging the lives of those that were lost it means you have to diminish those of police officers. Why why is all of this happening. While people sailing see the humanity and others. And so in that period that was the one thing that I kept on

Thinking was do you understand what level of community has to get in to the point with them marching in the streets and protest just and what that what level people have to get that and so for myself. I felt like. I felt like I could not only up Sir.

But the process and then try to articulate what I could see was happening in the world. Just by listening and observing the people that are going through the most. >> Got to ask about your collection of footy’s every night I go in there there’s some a different color rainbow,

Whatever is how many of these do that it cost me this I’m afraid to counts because I think what happened is. So for us to understand what is your fondest and life I’m at home. I don’t know when I’m going back out into the world

Could ease away at home. Sure I love what he’s yeah, it’s just my life Canyon, I’m going to make a show from home coming to wear suits him at home that I don’t feel like I’m know I’m at home right now we had lunch with pence on I’ll zoom is eccentric cetera.

That’s why address the way that I did. I was like man, I’m running out of what he’s going to be 21 they right size to buy fuel money that’s get a few more than that the next thing I know that just 2 innings this is

What everyone is every nook and cranny of Michael that this is what he’s everywhere showing up everywhere, but in many ways the hoodie has become you know the uniform that I Don for this period of time it’s become you know become my little safety blanket become I

Think we get into a mindset, okay, it’s time now go into this thing you put it on and it’s how I feel created a sense of normalcy in a world that is completely abnormal right now. And so that’s really all it is me going okay, how do I get you

Know step into the zone was that moment like OK, I’m doing this now and that’s that’s what that’s become it’s become my ritual, it’s become my my no not spoken conversation with the audience was still in which the Lynwood and right now as

People and I can’t wait for the day when we’re not. >> That’s coming pretty soon but your audience may be disappointed if you come out soon they want to maybe you never know maybe I’ll find a male who is on Tuesdays and

Suits on Wednesday and that’s what I mean about I’m not going back and only going for you go buddy Tuesday’s, you never know, thanks man. >> I’m now taking knows how to keep a little secret had. 24 Jack Harlow is a leader in wraps. Latest generation can

See he’s cleverly or house rhythms driven flow and viral moment making charm. Love it. Haha, I have found him a massive following on social media. >> Budding which is studying and case team life. >> I think I’m coming at a time where grabbed his gun and very

Street in. I think I’m blessed to like have a spot right now because it’s not time like it’s like in this letter as many why boys in his weekend, people are looking for authenticity. So how close is this to home? It’s not far off.

So I think people relate to a lot of fans of the show talked. I cross and just like that, you meant so much to me yet. >> Harlow currently is touring the country with his latest album Come home. The kids Miss you when that title is a nod to

His desire to get back to his hometown of Louisville, Kentucky, after a dizzying rise to fame talk going to spend so much time away from Kentucky. >> That something was call me back and continues to I record most out outside of Kentucky. Nelson was kind of inside joke that

I’d see my fans commenting and everything that was said on some like just in life and you go to the summit just fo procreate for the time. Yeah. Became like I just like titles like Signifier. So speaking of where you are with the title of the album,

You have exploded in the last couple years in popularity and fame and success and all those measurables. How have you kept your head about you? And I do think the company it may be it’s a lot of Monday ones and team strong like a lot of people around me of like strong integrity

On a day-to-day basis. They start to rub off on you. Well, my home was once a still tell me exactly what they think are make fun of me. It’s not some weird hierarchy that makes me feel like I’m in a strange position about your

Family. They keep you grounded to. Yeah. Definitely. It may be clearing all the time that they like care about my happiness before anything. You have a party and you have some people over yet his moment. We like, you know, all these people

Might not be here. If I was in the position I was in life, maybe they would be smiling as hard and maybe they would laugh as hard. Every joke a game. And then so you start to account for everyone in your life that you feel would be no matter what. Check this out.

>> I’m the son of small business owners. Harlow was raised in a home that was a little bit country a little bit hip-hop with a mother who listen to Drake and then and Kanye West. >> So how early do you remember listening to hip-hop with your mom? I would say on

Earliest memories when she went and bought late registration. put in the causes. They can hear his case. A lot of these words are about to hear. So as we bring this in the late registration color, the full year, a key moment for me

Should a huge CD collection that I was through my home. You know what out even being handed. Anything’s been missed. If we have I like Dustin off the vinyl moments because of her. But your dad’s a country guy, right? Yes. You’ve got these to

Influence the yeah. Does that side show up in your view? So, yeah, the storytelling, which is in both genres, but like the broad he likes to sing. He’s saying it there. What are you saying? Suspicious minds by of this. So yeah, he my dad so full.

So I’m definitely inherited some of that. And yeah, I love country. I don’t know if I I would make country, but there’s like a lot of the emotion and story tone just the yearning. I love about it. >> That the girls like OMG skate is like totally stand as

We get to like you to notice me. >> Going by Mister Harlow, Jack First showed promise with the mic in middle school where he sold homemade mix. Tapes for $2 a pop. >> So your your parents talk about when you were young with the guitar hero. Mike, you’re in your room,

Writing rhymes. You have years old. Is that about when you remember catching the bug? I think hip-hop’s my thing. teen, right? It was everything is influencing the way we’re addressing even as white kids. It was just like it was the it was culture,

Period. So it’s what you grow up and take the kids decide to go make a band of the ones that we’re doing something nice. >> To be on the mix, tapes that were very popular. What’s the moment where you said, okay, now I know I can do this for a career.

>> Of course, is like a affirming moments. But like I can’t pinpoint a time was like unsure, which is strange. But I think day after day yourself, images like the slowly shape your reality into exactly what you expect for you. So and of course, is bumps

Along the way to discourage you. Tons of and pasta center for me. Really? Yeah, it’s a means a black summer. And that was why so as I am white. So, you know, so many of your peers come from a different background and have different stories and use it

Feel like you have moments. We feel like an outsider. >> So how did you get over that? How did you make that leap to feeling like you? Yes, I should be here with these guys. >> You know, there’s like those moments when you’re in your

Head and then there’s moments where you’re out. And I think I was looking up to spend more time out of it. Not since. I wonder how they’re taking me and more like, you know, I’m good. I belong. >> What’s it like to walk out here? Just wall to wall for

Sealing people screaming and giving it all back to. >> On the right night, it’s a complete reminder why she says Holy Forest. >> It has been 2 years of highs for Jack Harlow that with the remains to the hip-hop artist who exploded onto the scene in

2025 Brando with just how did with the multi platinum hit, what’s popular? Try reading so claim they come then came a feature on the Lil Nas X hit Industry base. Yes, I am. They followed this year by first Class. Our lows for song to go to number one with some help from an

Irresistible sample of 30’s Lammers I’ve been. >> I was proud of first class as any song and it’s not. It’s not because of how big it is years because of what it is and what is it to you? It’s just full circle anytime you

Can work your own personal DNA into year artist or hip-hop artist. Been doing it for years. A sample, whatever their parents for plan in the house with a simple something they love when they were 6 was beautiful as this kids right now, that thing that’s the song and they hear

Glamorous and others that remain some first-class it. You know? I mean, so it’s bringing it to a new generation fair to say that is a song that changed your life. Yeah, I would say so. Anytime you get a song that just translates in touch as everyone knows children,

You know, older people know everyone knows the sake. It does something to your career in a moment. It’s crazy because it’s such a commercial record. But it’s so full circle for me because I was paying homage when I did it, which is one of

The pillars of hip-hop is to sample. And it was like we created this from the ground up me and my producers and chose a song that I grew up on. I was like let’s make something of this. It’s rare. I think the people sometimes people’s biggest commercial moma’s might not

Resonate in our heart. Even though success and the grateful for it might not hit their heart. Like I think people will be surprised to know that first class is light soulful to me. At least you got a lot of influences growing up. I think that wouldn’t be the first one most people would

Pick for you to come out with your big hit song, right? And that’s what you want. Something that’s like all because I think when it came out I was com live and as the Biden that and that’s what you want, you want one of those light,

What you want your peers, but how and I think it so now that you decide that’s the sample. What’s your writing process? Yeah, well, it was like sort of a theme throughout the album is conversing with the sample. So not just letting the sample be in the background talking

Over it, but rather like playing off of it. Even my intro talk of the town, we sample Destiny’s Child. I’m talking to the sample. So it became a theme throughout the album on think and then for the verses, I think we hit the nail on the

Head with the hook so hard and just was so like some obvious about it like it is very easy to it has to for the versus I just want to wrap. It’s a few things that might even be polarizing like certain lines of people like Howdy say

That. But it’s like that’s the balance. It’s cure Asian, like anyone had the opportunity to sample climbers and one is a law allowed to do that. It’s like when you choose to do it in time like it’s up to you. >> Show you that, you know, to play Jack is going places I

Know. >> But his sights are set on more than music with an upcoming acting debut in a remake of the 1992 movement. White Men can’t jump you. Play basketball stepping into the role made famous by Woody Harrelson. >> I can play how the cameras will tell you what, though,

Using the good takes it to get. >> And while he seemingly is everywhere, the Stace Harlow still is most at home on stage. >> Having the girls allies, smoke delays is so far I have an empty stays not perform. What a white teen shorts on. If the crowd is perfect, nothing else matters.

Last time you were in Boston here, a little bar and a scare of 100 people right now. There are people sleeping on the sidewalk to get in tonight. So many levels you can reach right to be told. I looked online. This is really all you need to sell out of room

News of the world. So many people don’t get a chance to fill this. When you look ahead when you see, but they still have a lot to prove in the music space. I think it has like some amazing commercial success, but I think there are still stories and light.

Our I want to make that I haven’t made. I think I still have to prove myself a little bit, which is exciting to guess how you want to feel. That’s how you stay hungry. So as my image and brand continues to grow and people recognize me

In the street, whether they listen to music or not, I really want to make sure that I leave behind the mark. I want to leave on music and be a true story. Tell it have music. I’m really proud of that. I go back on and say, this help someone.

So I still have steps they want to take as the Sardis so well. But in terms of trajectory like we’ve been in for >> Who’s the best player in the band, whether holding look at Tar Bora ping pong Marcus, Mumford can play. We used to take inside one as

Well. I should be much about it. >> At the moment, the Mumford and Sons frontman is out on the road without spending during behind his debut solo self tight. >> What’s a proper album Awaken. We Don’t see them anymore. Which is you’ve got to listen to the whole thing from

One 10 to hear the full story. Yeah. And Beyonce, John, you go get that album, fires Burning. What made you want to sit down step away from Mumford for a bit and tell this story? I didn’t think of it. I wasn’t intentional about at the

Beginning. I just wanted to write songs again. First to songs that came out, what kind of will and Grace, which of the fest 2 songs on the record. As soon as I’ve written them, I should because the back side and that this is a bad record. I received a wreck what it

Feels like something I maybe should do my and they will completely agreed in support of it. So then the sums to start rolling on off to the other, spent about 18 months rising and recording and listed more support and out of the hat for anything I’ve

Done says with that is cool to set the record as much collaborative ties to cover what time and and yeah, the sums are in the lead. I was determined to follow the creative where that. >> The album opens with Hannibal Mumford’s deeply personal and painful saw about the sexual abuse he suffered as

A child. >> When I’m being yeah and June 2, all of this thing and said out loud. >> So we had so much private things. Yeah. And that but of Altice baby away. You write a song about something really personal and they needed the most public thing you can do

With it. You gun publicize it. But the people and the guys on the radio, whatever it it’s just a really weird thing that we day as to spot. I sort of refused to call it a record until I had all the songs. I just didn’t want to think

About releasing it until I knew that was something that to release. And then I think it I think about that stuff lights. So really I didn’t even cool an album until late last year. And then this year started thinking about how to present

Its people. At that point, I started thinking, oh, you have to talk about this and have to and and seeing that more is an opportunity. Then some said punishment is how I approached it and it feels good to feel conference in half in kind of fell out. But then the presses

Was it a difficult decision or it sounds like it wasn’t. It was a decision. I once I’d written that I, you know, just became Paul the collection sums along with the oven on on the record and then this year, something okay. That’s going to be

Put out some. I know a lot of people have stepped out and said, oh, my gosh, he’s telling my story. I can tell my thing. Yeah. The reason that called itself talked rather than using Monday because I love the idea that other people might be able

To access parts of my story and project that run on to it all feel something from their own story and mine which is really cool. Said the Magic News. >> After Cannibal comes Grace, a song that recounts the experience of month for telling his mother about the abuse only recent.

>> So I told him out for that stuff happens when a play that kind of was the first time she kind of put that. And so all right, grace like first there as well. How should we proceed without things getting too heavy? And that

Sort of acts, I think, is an invitation ordinance to join me in. Well, I think becomes a story about freedom and recovery and has a lot of hype in it. Beyonce guy. She was talks about leaving people with yes. And that’s true. I think

On every song on the record the festival ends with beginning again and then it kind of goes on. >> The album closes with a song about Forgiveness Co written. >> By Mumford’s fraying Grammy winner Brandi Carlile release you from Let me.

>> The first there in the first summit if I could get and that officers are well and it’s a statement of intent is not necessarily saying forgiveness is done and dusted. I think it’s more of a process like a left right thing. I’m going to

Choose to do this. You feel like you need to forgive yourself for something. Oh, yeah, towns. It’s really a for any of the age. Had things head in my life and they would cascade into up things and just get tangled up in it all and so

On picking that to giving us a fast and I think support of kind of recovery. Have you found forgiveness? Not just for yourself but beyond. Is that last song true? Well, I think I certainly find myself in the eye, I think with more access to compassion. So people

Behave in ways that seem like abhorrent Aquinas to may and bond got all these stories and set the mark and of like bad. But it is or behaviors that are in effect on the people negative ways. There’s no malice story underneath that.

And so I think I’m able to us not just see the way someone presents but think I wouldn’t project a story on them, but think like it’s all bunch of stuff going on in your life. And it seems by the way of presenting to me, they haven’t had the options is

A look at that stuff. So instead of just write someone off completely and saying, look, you know, I want to ever associate with which is that there’s a lot of that in all culture the moment and I get it a complete. But the fact that it’s more complicated than just one

Single not ignore moment as late as that is that I think I’ve got more access to compassion. Maybe I did before. >> Self titled is dedicated to Mumford’s wife. The Oscar nominated actress Carey Mulligan. The pair have been married since 2012 and have 2 young children. You know, I think.

>> Creates apartments like sometimes a bit of bad rat. That was one day. Ashley was Judea and care is showing up. She was driving and they had like these really fancy little plaque kautz to put in front of a parking spots. So one saying Marcus,

Mumford on my part that she called me says what up officer this law allocates its for you? And when she showed up, I got and, you know, cause roll that out. She’s like Kick Act like that. But I wouldn’t have made it without a as good reason

That’s dedicated to and she’s been phenomenal. They support civil a school. >> Born in California to parents who are leaders in their church, Mumford moved with the family back to London. At 6 months old, his prodigious talent for music was 4 in the kitchen.

>> Do you remember, Marcus, when the spark was live for you in terms of music? The kitchen in my house growing up was the place. So we the since the mice music outside to call my mom’s amazing chef. She would be in the kitchen, make stuff and

Itself will listen to music. And I remember pulling out pops up at the start of the drums and then yeah, listening to music with my mom in the kitchen. She had a vinyl a slight rain coming. She had those are good taste and that

Alice little vocal music. She was a kind of saying it. The cause and Utah for a little percussion. A little bit of caution. Some common it’s yeah, yeah. And then at what point did you say? I know you left college to pursue this. At what

Point did you say this is something I really want to go after? I so I say my head us to set that still 70 per still got about to colleges. Yeah, I left college on. So that’s a cool. Yeah. Because I got offered the job by Giannis would go about it

And what did that and of course that yeah, we set up by yeah. Jumped up in the end. If Russia is play the summer too and then the fest for the states we did. We were off of us will have backing band. And

When that slipped back lounge on the boss because a lot of bucks, Russell and then from that role, she really gave us the lead up to play and shows >> Mumford has spent more than a decade performing in a really is around the world with Mumford and Sons in the band he

Formed with Friends in 2007. Their debut album Sigh No more was released in the U.S. in 2010 climbing to number 2 on the billboard chart while selling more than 3 million copies and earning the bandit Brenden now and for best new artist.

>> I think that this is what I think normally do like to 3 fit surrounds and then moved up to the bigger ones. Just went weak line. Not a lot of faust’s. >> We were talking earlier today about a performance that grabbed a lot of people which is at the Grammys in 2011.

I was watching again this morning the way you are stopping on that riser and then the horns come in and you have this look about 2 minutes in of just complete joy. Almost like can you believe where we are boys? Do you remember that night? Well, because, yeah,

Things change for you after that. >> If Bob Dylan set to majoring because that was the one we did with the brothers, Dan in pretty much the only thing he said to me, General houses. Keep that thank God because I was stumped. Yeah. And and tough to sit that matchup.

Let’s law for the floor some. >> Yeah, I think and it was funny because often we played awesome. That’s but that’s all we went on the CA to get ready to come on to play out his phone with them. And I think it’s probably

When the lot will cause is happening to house many tens of millions of people. I think it was the first something to me is sick, but he kind of liked. And we came back while the eyes of playing time. But many would play that again.

I stopped by the time. I just really quite because we’re behind the cut. It’s right that stop playing in the cave. And the guys I could sing on the U.S. to not use from that. We’ve been practicing for 3 days. We’re already talking to

Me, but you build it will be what you tell us today. I’m going to say on that and then his base. But I think it was just as the nation will stay. But seconds. Is that an out of body experience that Bob Dylan is leaving in and it has no him

This way yet yet has one on that. But again. >> Mumford and Sons. Next. 2 albums debuted at number one, making the band a foot stopping international sensation. That fans will be happy to hear is just on the break. >> That is, but I’ll say is like hopefully one in very many

Records and make it sound like. >> A new way of making news on his own giving Mumford a new perspective, too. >> I think I take myself that seriously, which helps. And I know it’s just a period of time in my life and about about

Next. I’m really excited about that. But for now, I’m just trying to enjoy it this spirit. >> The today show >> Very high teen or yeah, haha you it’s so great to see you unmasked in the flash my hero on mask. In a garden and a

Rooftop in New York. This is the latest I’ve ever state let’s be honest the EU very early in the morning that is true. So we’ve co-host of the today show together over the years great highlights of my career and life. The first time

You hosted I was saying some of the celebrity guest host they’re a little nervous. Understandably, yes, the fish out of water. >> And I think I think James going to be OK. >> And I’m sitting at the desk. Good morning. It’s Monday

Morning. Yes thing and you come in on roller skates this hole. >> My God. >> Is that who I think it is >> and by the way full roller skating skills are deep in your New Jersey child. Yeah, you nailed it right from the

Actors, so you always bring it I guess what I’m saying so we’re talking about this time at home this last year and a half yeah you’ve actually been working a lot. Like you’ve been at home with your son, but also your Australia shooting at you

Like you’ve got all these things going on so what was that balance for you of time at home and work in the beginning it was obviously all shut down. Yeah, it was just so la me and my son at home and it was interesting time for me and I’m

Sure you feel this way about your kids what we learned a lot about our kids that we didn’t know and to me the think the thing I like the most besides knowing that I don’t know anything from the 3rd to 4th grade. Haha but Preston at the

Same. But then I eased into and I got into the joy of actually be learning everything that my son and fighting join up, but I loved seeing how my son learns he’s 2 years at home really taught me who my son is and what how we learns what

Ignites him, you know what his strengths and weaknesses are and you hear them in the U.S. and the party to come for some sort of like. Well I was not like that at home. We justify our head right and then being his you know coach teacher for

A year and a half almost 2 years. I was like oh, yeah, you’re right he struggles there or he needs more attention here and so that was really eye opening for me and a great lesson and yeah, I feel very lucky that he has a hole in the

Person Aaron did she like having mom at home helping them time or was he like okay, I love you meant little space now I think people kind of loved it I really enjoyed it and like you my our start very early so there’s many hours that I would

Be gone before he wakes up or when doing a Broadway show getting home after that time. So this was a a joy for him and a joy for me I it was heart of New York. As a New Yorker I ice it makes you still make the trip of I

Got so sad like hearing the sirens Ray and heavier thing shut down if you ever told me in our lifetime that New York could shut down and not be 24 7, I would have never believed that you know we would go out every night at 07:00PM the Bengals

Pass and I felt this emotional right now I feel that overwhelming emotion to say thank you to these people that saved New York from the brink. So now we’re in a time where we’ve made it through New Yorkers are so hard and so strong where you know largely vaccinated which is so

Wonderful and now I’m excited to see New York come back. So much a part of that for me is having broad may come back. Yeah, I’m excited that work is slowly coming back for us that we’re seeing each other in person, yeah that my son will

Return. He’s go back to school. And hopefully New York will will come back better better than ever and because I believe in New York or so much I know bill. >> Your Apple TV plus series naked in yeah, which incorporates elements of Broadway because couples

Walking through the forest in the woods. And they happen into a universe that is a beacon 1940’s era, musical production right to use a man or something yeah. So first of all great concept. Love that so where do you fit into that story as the

>> Well, let’s just go back when I first read the script, Countess. I was like I’m the Lady who’s going to watch it at home now how could I also get a because it came from Lorne Michaels I was asked to do some of the early meetings of it before as

They were still crafting it and I feel like I was lucky enough to be a part of it from the ground up. It’s written by the loving loving musical theater, loving heart of cinco Paul who is one of the most infectious happy joyous people I’ve ever

Worked with and has such a true love of musical theater and you could tell it’s infused in every moment to get in. I play took this. Van Blair can all of our characters reminiscent of characters that you know from 1940’s musicals mind is very

The remnants of the Baroness in the Sound of Music. That’s right. So she comes from a jot like the bridge on a jot in the city and she comes back to fight now. The doctor taking up with Melissa who is the people who are not from schmigadoon

Right coming to find true love to get out of the strong Santa and they’re hilarious that I actually I loved that it is a loving piracy of musical theater but also has such a weighty humorous sensibility tacked on to it you like the

Show with you like musicals or hate news right because both sides are being. Haha I love that. >> And there’s some eye rolling. The theater of it all from the other side. So you’re right you do get a and as I said you before it is like in modern all-star cast for

Broadway between you and Kristin Chenoweth and Alan I could go on and on and on, but yeah asked. >> We also filmed this wonderful little gem of a series during the pandemic that it was right when filming was being allowed to happen again under great restrictions.

We all went up to Vancouver we quarantine for a very long 14 days, we would rehearse on zoom if we could I mean I got basically maybe an hour or so in the car, a fairway masks and face shields we rehearsed on to fold-out

Chair and that was meant to be this convertible car that do this amazing number that cinco vote for me and the first time in that sense fully in person was when they called action. I think so much of the hardest and again is that we were able

To actually do live musical theater when there was no live musical theater at the time and it’s going to air now at a time when used to say that probably hasn’t come back to your hometown yet but hopefully about a son so.

>> I was like I said you’re busy so the schmigadoon got a new season Dickinson. >> I think the consensus is such a cool show it’s so well and by Alanna Smith, I bet it and was like this is so creatively interesting to me that I just want to see how

It’s going to be done so I want to be a part of that. It’s been really interesting because the show lives on on many levels it could be completely funny and the next minute be completely heartfelt and beautiful and poignant. Wiz Khalifa comes all right and they’re saying it’s we’re

Working to a rap song. So you just kind of got to go with that but I I was my mom was a huge family to consent and she taught me some of them later can says problems when I was a child and so I first saw the script for her to consent.

It started with the Paul my mom had talked to a resident was a kid which is I know, but I hear you. I was like week, then it said it are set to like about sounds like oh this might be

The blending of all world, so I want to I want to be a part of this creatively I feel like each year, the show. Each season, the show. Some nest its way into something special and beautiful and I hope people find it, I’m not sure if anybody’s watching to consider

Who even knows where it is it’s an apple TV. But I thought yeah I’m headed but it’s daunting to do comedy, especially you know they like to do physical comedy. And of course it. How is a day in a row of course at rdu roller skate in the

Example, you know there’s a modern twist, you don’t know which days they they have have a a nice guy. But it’s then a joy and I’m really proud of the ultimate product of of what it >> So what is it when you get a script, Jane that you see and is.

You go oh yeah that’s a new service PRI. Yes, grabs again, there’s always something there it seems that that turns you on its that want to be a part of that. >> It’s just something special that gets ignited in me, I think like I feel like

And a lot of it is there’s excitement and fear. This book right right Sears is good, I think because it can push you to try something new all the description, I really wanted to do it, but I don’t get that feeling and I’m like

And like I guess I’m not going to do this fun, I don’t feel it’s not doing that to me and so it’s just an inner instinct you just get that that Biden side. >> Like a challenge clearly something that I don’t know can

I pull this off when you read the script. Oh yeah. >> Yeah, I like that if it’s not there, I’ll try to begin for myself harder harder for myself what am I guess. and that’s just you being which is actually a character you don’t play very much right to say like.

>> Which might be for the best years. Small doses haha but it’s you get to be funny and you get to do all saying yes and you get to be you person that I know that very seat so how much fun is that show to do so much fun and I grew up

Watching name that tune and I grew up in a very musical family. Up so we would you know yell at the television every time we could see as many as we can get it and try to get the song to try to you know compete against each other in a family

Family way. So yet when it came today. It was such a gift. It was at the height of the pandemic they flew us to Australia to some that because we could with their with their restrictions we were able to have a live band live audience

And it was my first time you know hosting a game show set to speak and it was all joy. I’m in love with Randy Jackson. Then to Jackson is such a cool guy a great friend and an amazing producer, he is really really a smart guy and considering everybody in

The network was in California watching our life takes like 5 in the morning and it was the and red nice as the old the Americans this entirely, Australia production. It was really wonderful to have Randy has as a cohort out there and and using ksat’s bill again and

Longstanding experience in that world right from American idol and all that he taught me a lot and I’m very grateful for his >> That’s got to be a really cool thing to have grown up friendship. watching something and then be in a position your life for them they ask you to

Be the person to recreate those the sort of perspective pinch me moments along the way. >> Yeah, they are I’ve had a bunch of those probably too because as a briefly this mission might my parents did a lot of community Theater in New Jersey that was their hobby outside of there.

The professions and so they would take me to the community theater at them and from the time I was in a crib I was backstage just community theater and I watch my mom make costumes for show or be in a show or my dad produce a show

Or be in a show and I’ve had many of those shows I’ve come to be on Broadway. A few of them because I’ve been probably shows but a few of them in those moments. Are the moments where I think wow how did this even happen

Like how did I see my dad and my mom be in the show community theater and now I’m opening on Broadway and I those those days are never lost on me X, I’m so thankful to support and creativity that my parents and fused into our lives the child

And then in this has been in this business and I still love it just as much. >> Generally speaking you are not a jaded person you don’t take all these things in your life and career for granted. >> Not a step not a minute that I’m so thankful and as a mom of

A 10 year-old I hope my son can find what he loves to do and I can nurture it and say yes and go and go so he can find that for himself too. You have a life well lived serious, don’t you it’s a life well lived when you can get to do

What you love to do for for your whole life and you’re doing it. >> I forgot where Mike and I got out to just to walk off. If there was a like a drop of, but I did actually drop that was that was a it was unconventional my haven’t known

A lot of drop. I’m not exactly conventional. seems to be completely inevitable that you’re going to do what you’re doing right now, which is to be on stage and on screen was there ever a moment along the way where you’re going to like

The accountant or was it like this is who I’m going to be. >> Well you didn’t see my grades will so I knew very early on and you need to hold my personality to think about anything else not really I mean I grew up with a with a very

Practical father. Always was worried about the rainy day for me. And so. Yeah we looked into you know, I I thought for a while I want to be a lawyer. That was never really enough I I guess there’s some other

Things I thought I would want to do but I was lucky enough to get to get a yes and to get to get in. I mean there’s been years writing get work. And times in our career where we’re high rubble or not hire or the

Right musicals are being done or you’re just like 2 inches too short to be office the leading that are many many reasons that we don’t get jobs in show business and those can that can knock you down, but I don’t think there’s ever a moment I really wanted to do anything else.

>> OK so there. A bunch of great roles that you’re associated with TV. What do you hear about the most alley mcbeal yeah, 30 rock yes Kimmy Schmidt’s yes just jakelin’s incredible character that Stacy and you’ve said you said you enjoy finding the

Humor in monster’s yeah, make comedy out of monsters and when you see what I read that but yeah, yeah, Jaclyn that’s Jenna a little bit that’s something you really well. >> An Estero maasai clearly exaggerated for a crowd of sense of humor but it’s I think I love them

Finding a sense of humor and flaws in people and they could be flaws and all of us whether we come off that way or not but I love heightening them too. A place of humor and I think I think definitely those characters had that I’ve also

Been much as were bit by some of the greatest writers in television or just say the greatest writers so you can’t take that out of the equation and it brings me to I think what I love most about but I do and and I feel this way even

With our conversations they believe that it’s the collaboration, it’s the it’s the joint conversation and I feel like every job I’ve been lucky enough to do is done with people who that collaboration is maybe better collaboration is made me grow that collaboration has inspired me and that’s what I feel so thankful about.

>> I think Alan bill is it fair to say that maybe your first experience with something that Hugh yeah, where this is a cultural thing that people are talking about the next right thing and yeah. >> It was my first TV series and I was very defensive

Calista Flockhart from just in New York theater scene and we have both flown out for our final screen tests together and we this is sort of ice. The SUP the sort of kind of what the host has kind of felt like the snow out coach, he caught the

Jobs while we were there both of us and we flew back for us to warm warm, fresh cookies in all which was a first for Bay. And it’s sort of explains the whole experience like we’ve been in none of us had ever been on TV. I remember the

First day I realize that I feel is hit was I was driving home in La traffic and people are analyzing it. The next after the day after the up and said I’m on the on the radio and I don’t even know

If I knew what a water cooler show us and that was the day I realized that it was it was out there, you know it was us, it was something and it wasn’t it was a great experience for me in general again it was a very specific sense of humor

Quite exaggerated character that I adored I like about the characters that I play even though they’re flawed. I love them. Yeah, I have radical compassion for them all. And I think that is something I’m so happy. I am to see my characters and now

I want to infuse that everywhere in life I think we’re at a time in life we all should have radical compassion for each other and then. >> Did you feel your life changing just in terms of going into a restaurant, people know you are okay your mound bill

Was that the first time that’s happened. Yeah for sure did that feel strange at all. >> It felt strange but exciting until it didn’t write until it backfires on someone and it’s I didn’t really get the negative experience of that. During during that show and maybe

Because I was more of a supporting player. It was definitely an experience where our lives all changed and and I remember the first year we all got to go to the the Golden Globes. So I asked everybody to come over to my dental apartment before and we all like had a glass of

Champagne got out of the same when I was like it worked for the friends, maybe this feel safer. If we Heather from probably did all those pictures outside of by apart earlier we were all like suddenly going to the Golden Globes and it was is a great type of memory.

>> But when that series wraps up the there’s something in your mind back to the Broadway thing I want to come back to New York, yeah, and then boy does that work out well for >> Could he have really done your to highlight every behind

It now no it’s all kicking around up here. You to see, but I yeah, something told you that CB was fun does Excite show way back home to the stage yet at which point you want to own very sweet of you, it’s also about 50. Haha

I’m going on for 5 seasons. So I was 5 years living away from New York for the first time in my life and I really missed it. So I put all my la life my rented l a life into a storage unit and came back to New York.

And addition for a show called 9. It became my my home coming back to the public community. Maybe one of the most satisfying and wonderful creative experiences as well in my career and yes, a lifelong dream came true that I when the Tony for that show which

You know, I’m still kind of wowed by that that fact when they call your name does that all come back. >> Parents think it is theater in the crib that whole road that got to that stage. >> When they called my hand I went blank like I think I had a

Moment of an out of body experience my speeches awful place to play on the show because I literally like like I can’t believe what just happened to right. I think it it seemed like. Too far of a reach like it that would never happen and I really going to like some.

Some losses own. across the river. Yeah. >> I don’t know what good juju was on my side, the dad that Tina Fey and Robert carlock I’m I was there I will Shortz to that audition which was a missed call. Ed, I know it was a

Missed call that you know ready to joke about women of a certain age still wear shorts, actually on 30 rock. Haha short says side it was a day that changed my life. I luckily got that job and then I was blessed with

7 seasons of one of the greatest tops my life and the greatest writing of my life and then for more on that fateful condition at which is kind of incredible and and I hope a lifelong friendship with all of the above that were part of the

Show’s did you know Tina before that addition to do no not at all any of her right right question has not yet at but now you guys just seem likes of kindred spirits. I don’t know why well, I’m really glad to know right now I am I’m so

Thankful for her friendship and the the comedy gold she bestowed on me and all of us it was not a day that we took that for granted that entire experience every moment of the 7 years that we were getting to make the show that we could

Come to the today show and use the today show as like part of our fictional world was crazy and awesome. >> And you can tell in Jenna that you had studies. >> A lot of people that you work with perhaps in your. What I say about.

>> Starlets and the business yeah I was not making any commentary like I told you I had a compassion for. But there could in the back a greater character to thrive and get the chance to flourish in that particular style of comedy.

>> That show I was telling my kids have been watching all your shows darcel and teens so this is new generation, yeah, yeah, and the show holds up 30 rock really holds a at absolutely holds up and had some edge to it that we were

Saying like. Yeah today at a little more difficult oh I think so I thinks I’m not sure. Well certainly that 30 rock >> Yeah being made today and would be an 8 today and it is could have been. should that lives in this time and then I did experience what

You’re saying like a whole new generation of people coming up to me so that they they watched over the pandemic and that’s that’s awesome. I’m glad that younger kids are seeing and you know future comedians are being exposed to it because there are some great downed lines from that show yeah,

>> And Kimmy Schmidt’s another favorite in our House of the yeah. our kids. I think it’s your first scene maybe when you’re hiring Kenny. >> She offers stimuli can he says no she just wrote wrote that out and water and I was like item for this girl which

I’m not sure is another do it by back and then she goes you know to braid hair. It could be says yes she is okay, great you have to meet the horse first. >> Yeah that’s got to be would not be a character like that

And you know you can just let it all go. >> And anything goes that comes out of that that’s got to be so fun. You know, Tina, it likes to use all the skills you’ve got yeah, how cool to be associate with that shows that

Always be considered I’m on. Yeah, I’m honored to be associated with those shows and I know it’s going to always be part of my comedy cadence for the rest of for the rest of my life and I’m I’m thrilled that I I had that opportunity.

>> Okay before I release you from the secure like you’ve done so much what’s out there have not done. >> But you still see on the horizon. Oh my gosh, I mean what happened you’ve done everything right. There’s so much, I have them.

So much I have I try to think of what I don’t think this way and I think this goes back to my parents raising the was such a practical sensibility like that I’ll never work again and I think every actor has a twin

You that in like win one job instead of oh God this maybe it like yeah, and I certainly felt that after Alan in your conditioning for 9, I thought. Well this Tech could have been like the high point of my whole career.

>> Sure I think that’s a little bit healthy by the way I think we all have it. Yeah, if you did what if you to of course a >> If you add a touch right now on stuff will bite getting to job. work with people I really want to work with

I’ve been so lucky really to work with people who are so great what they do like some of the greats and what they do and I hope that that continues. I think the more selective I guess, but I I’m blowing in the wind I’ve seen yes to let’s try

That before it’s a time of yes, and that’s kind of fun and freeing and some more animated you got my little pony coming up in September. You got to do it all yes, yes, well, I’ll let you roller skate out of here is a joy it brought them, I should

Have thought that we’re going to find that yeah, huge states you so great to see you too. >> The drop in the crowd was. So it’s nice step too far like the title of the movie that has her on the brink of Hollywood history. Michelle Yeoh right

Now is everything everywhere all at once. How are you feeling as you sit? >> In the middle of all this right now? >> You can see the big it’s been fabulous to see this little throw that has such a giant heart. He embraced

All these ways. When was when the movie came out last much we had will premiere and south by Southwest. We knew we had something magical. >> This is when are you with us? I am paying attention. >> Yo is nominated for her performance. As Evelyn Waugh,

A struggling laundromat owner s***** into the multiverse and seemingly endless. >> Alternate versions of her own life. You all new at something unique. Clearly something special that people hadn’t seen before. But you could not imagine as we sit here almost a year later. >> To have 11 nominations, 11 Academy Award nominations yet

Told me that last year we rely on me would love that. His fund is in the We’re if you look at it, it’s we did wacky wild, wonderful movies that we’ve ever original. Maybe 2 original for some people to like in the future kind of thing, right?

This is like 5 John Grove movies, all in one. But we had champions like 24 who understood this is a very special trip. >> I’m here because we need your help to save her Family. Joe’s character must master a wild different skill in each The role was written specifically for you by

Directing duo Daniel Kwan and Daniel Scheinert. >> I was watching the film again last night and my son came in in the middle of it said, what’s this about it? How to describe this? So I’m curious when the Daniels came to you the first time, how is this even pitch? Because it is

So unique. It’s unlike anything anyone has ever seen on the screen before. What was the pitch and did you get it right away? So they were very smart. They sent me the script. >> Because when you pick something like this is very hard to say, science fiction, comedy or a drama, Marcia,

Lots, you know, they beat this season. The pitch one, something like that for me meeting them was to see if they would not certifiably insane. This junior says had the college to write a story about a very ordinary woman. We women, mothers, daughters on team is grandma this ordinary.

But given the opportunity to be extraordinary. >> We’re playing ordinary is something new for an actress known previously for roles like the high-flying Warrior in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. >> Was was watching some of those fight scenes thinking she knows what she’s doing. She’s career, but I was also reading

In some of them. You may have been a little too good at it in a way that Evelyn might not have known how to fight that way. Is it true that the Daniels asked us for trying to get a little bit? You’re too good at it?

>> I think that he was he was that kids normally when I for example, in coaching Tiger Hidden Dragon, I’m the mentor. I’m the one he’s teaching the hot. But in this one, the Daniels came up to visit. All is Evelyn Waugh. She

Doesn’t have a clue what she’s doing. Hands know what she’s doing because she’s just jumped to the the universe and a quiet the skill and jump bad. But now you’re back to was head. So it was it was fracturing of the mine because it has to do

All these crazy things and the faces, what the h*** do it while I can do it. So it was it was good because that’s what I love being challenge. I love being say, you know, for them to come and sit, can you try this for us? Can you do this

For us and every day? That’s what say I love you in 8 different ways. or you have to do this and you have to do the KPA pet food. They roll through it all at you. Then they us. Yeah. >> You know, grew up in Malaysia dreaming of being a

Ballet games. As a teenager, she moved to London train at the theme royal academy. But when an injury cut short, a promising career, she turned toward drama, though, reluctantly. >> Boy, did I. That was the first time I discovered stage

Fright. When I had to say lines on stage. I forget my own me. >> At 20 yo returned home where she was horrified to learn her mother secret and enter into the Miss Malaysia at. >> Which she promptly one. >> So then I was given an opportunity to go to Hong Kong

To make a commercial to do a commercial says the watch commercial. That’s the watch. A crash with that, Jack. you know, Eugene hair and makeup early in the morning. You turn around and see this guy, Wolf. We move over nukes Familia and then I recognize

>> Josue was starring alongside Jackie Chan in Hong Kong. Action like Super Hot. >> And established star in Asia. Yo made the leap to Hollywood a town that it first did not seem to appreciate her resume. >> You came from a place where you can do anything. You want

To come show that to Hollywood and they weren’t ready for that. They had an idea. You should be what kind of actor you should be light. So how did you work through that in those in those early years? It’s not giving up. >> It’s like believing that it’s possible. I think first of

All, you must be passionate about what you do. This comes from passion. So you don’t see this a job. You just something that you love and when you love something big enough, then you want to make sure that it’s the right thing that you’re doing it and you’re doing it right

For this passion of us because it if you take on the job that takes you away from people, you love your family and all that. And so you better make sure that what you’re doing is really was your time. Your your your love and what you’re

Giving to it. And it is yes, when I was saying, you know, and then I came, I got here because in age in the whole World, Hollywood is the place to go because Hollywood is wet dreams come true. And that time quite a few direct to us and

Activists will try to make it in Hollywood a spot because that is ultimate dream. And then you get here and the for the first time I think I was I understood that I would minority the I almost couldn’t understand what it was like.

I think that look it up in addiction with a health spa. He’s, you know, I come from Malaysia where we a multi racial. We have malaise in the U.S. Chinese. And so, you know, it was all stereotype unit was every script that you read. The Asian has to come from China Town.

Joan, thank God. One, 20 something 30 us on the road. It’s all change because we are everywhere in the world. Not just students, but that’s right. >> Now in everything everywhere, all at once, you know, finally plays her first leading role in Hollywood with the performance that is making history, too.

>> This is not just for me. This is for every logo that looks like me. >> You’ve been to in some incredible movies. A lot of people in this moment are folks that she was so great in everything everywhere, which of course you are. But when you

Look back and I mean crouching Tiger and then where is it a shot, crazy rich age that go on and on this that you’ve had incredible. Yes, a resume of films. Is this a gratifying moment? Not just for this movie because now people are looking at your grandson. My gosh.

>> She truly is one of our best. It is. It is. And I must say that with the SAG Award that is from your peers, you know, from your fellow activists within 2 these kind of journey and, you know, the the the the whole worksafe

Wanting and not getting in desiring and all this and then be part of something that’s amazing and great and trying to find the next one in the next one. And sometimes it’s in said sometimes it’s it’s it just appears from you. But it’s very, very gratifying. And I’m glad I’m still here

Being able to enjoy it when it’s it’s and and have seen this such a long road ahead because like 60’s, the new prime. necessary next stop the Academy Awards with mom still offering advice? >> Just called me the other day. If you’re going to the

Oscars, you must not wear pants. Thanks for the tip, my. Yeah. Sure that and don’t do this and don’t do that and you should keep your hair. And and so and I was so easy. I I left a message. Mom know we tailor make the tuxedo form.

So I’m wearing pants to the mosque. That’s and today I got this really long message. You can tell them that you changed your mind. That need is a new app. Has you know short? Haha. >> I love my mom. The dynamic never change.

>> And sometimes I have to remind him, I said mom to know how old. You know when I go home, just your hair is so long. You look at the 2.10 get this year that like, okay. Nice to see you, too. >> This is find a moment, though, to say congratulations

To be nominated for an Academy award. >> She didn’t know. She said, yeah, yeah. She didn’t say congratulations and that way. She’s just say that everybody is very happy for you. Why can’t you like? Does that include you that don’t know. She’s very happy. I know she’s very, very happy.

She is a it’s emotional and to win an Academy Award. >> But with everything you just laid out, everything you just described, how much would it mean to you to stand? Not just for yourself, but for so many others holding that trophy? >> I think that’s the expectation

Globally right now because just the nomination had shine a light cost me h***. Yeah. Haha. But also much more there than just you. Yes, is beyond me. I mean, it’s right from when you saw to honoring all this kind of attention, it was very often use this Asian family. It was it was

Being seen. People around the world will say, look at us, he says, look, see us. Do you know those sidelined us? Give us a seat at the table. We’re not saying that. We deserve to be there for no good reasons. But we have to be given opportunities to play roles

That deserves a place at the table. But right now for a long bit for a long period of time, these Foles with so far and in between, right and for me, even myself, I’ve not been in the business a long time. And this was the first time in so many,

Yes, where I have an opportunity to show you. So it’s it’s a gift for me to be able to say, look at >> You like how a decorated the room for us. I’m so touched. He did it. I was here for am. Show the Raptors. This doesn’t

Happen overnight. So that make you comfortable you have. >> I’m Scott over the last decade or so. Paul run has made himself comfortable as a marvel superhero bringing a sorry about this. An unexpected career perhaps until he heard about his character.

>> What has it been like for you, Paul, to step into this Marvel world, which is amazing and so cool and great but also intense from the fan side and then expectations about the characters. We’ve got a lot of your career. But starting in

2015, you until I was totally different place. If you enjoyed sir being part of that family, I have I really have it honoring a cool thing to be a part of something that so many people care about. I think we’ll see. That certainly has a

History. And and that’s and you’re also a part of a team like I really like all of the other actors. Were you surprised by the phone call you got 10 years ago, 10 to the Marvel universe? I think people have like a preconceived notion

That you’re funny and all these different kinds of things. But superhero. I think you’ve said that for you as I owe me. Yeah. I mean, I wasn’t expecting that. Yeah. That call, you know, it’s it was originally going to it be directed by Edgar Wright is a friend of Biden enters films.

And if I seem like, Oh, yeah, I love his movies and we were friends and that this is this would be cool. I thought, oh, this seems this seems fun and also. >> Ant-Man that seems like one. Maybe people would buy the in more than Superman.

>> It’s definitely not by me. Is that I noticed. >> The latest Ant-Man movie Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantum-mania kicks off phase 5 with the Marvel Cinematic Universe, a notoriously secretive franchise. >> I want to stipulate for our audience. I have not seen the

Movie not because I don’t want to see the movie because I can’t see the movie and you can’t say much about the movie. Yeah. So what are we to talk about the fablemans? Yeah. Secret beaches to or some might we can talk about that gives Spielberg all the awards.

It’s just a great movie. It’s you know, it’s like the love of movie making. Yeah, we could talk about other ways. I’ve seen anything recently. Life the banshees them in a share and you catch that caught it. Loved it. Colin Farrell Gleason very cute

In ICE. I get back. I ask her cause. I want to perform top gun maverick. A lot of fun. I don’t know if I vote for it. You know, they’re also great fighter pilots tried yet. We know this. >> One interesting that, Scott, I don’t know you are, but

He made a big mistake. In a venture, let’s talk about where we find Ant-Man in this 3rd film. To the extent you can tell me that is after the events of and again, it was a 5 year gap. People turn to dust another

Back and that’s it doesn’t. And I just ruined a whole bunch of stuff to watch the show. Oh, yeah, spoiler alert. It’s picking up with now is a character that I play. Scott Lang Banks said, OK, finally and move forward now with my life and that, you know,

That doesn’t happen exactly the way that he doped. >> We’re plan you have talked about getting ready for these movies. He talked to Chris Pratt about how to become kind of superhero fit, right and hair phrase. I think it works. Eliminate all pleasure from your life in terms of eating

And drinking and yeah, that did you have to do it again for number 3. I did. I never try and fall too far off of it because getting back to that is really it’s hard. But I think it kind of fell off of it without me noticing when you’re in it, it’s not

It’s kind of challenging and fun and you feel good. But it’s also up. I this is finite. I know I’ve got to be doing this for the next 3 or 4 months and then, right. I want to do it, but it’s a lot, but it’s not. So it’s not so bad when you’re

In it and you do it for good reason, right? And then you pick it up for work. But then it becomes a part of your life and you May 10. So right. What I’m saying is presumably looks great. Haha, thank you. Thank you. Haha. I I would like to get

Back to little more than that, but we’re going to break right now. Yeah. Well, I mean as much as yeah Ish. Yeah, but it’s not really a break is just because it then becomes a. >> Oh God. What’s more boring than actor talking about his workout regimen.

See how they didn’t do it. Yes. Occurred. Be yeah. >> How many calories a day all got? >> You know, it’s bad when you weighing your chicken b*****. I hate myself. What I’m doing. She says God would come. >> Momentum, right. Jump to hang on to do is add to you.

>> Last time we talked a few years ago, you said your kids were maybe more aware of your career now because of it. And they used to walk by movies here and to see a poster. Yeah and say, well, you know, it’s when my kids were very yeah, I don’t

Really. And it’s, you know, I’m not going, you know, set my kids down the street and say, you know what? I’ve got some DVDs to show you. I really explain what I did. Yeah, my son, when he was about 4, 5, went to a movie theater

To see a movie with his friends. It was a movie poster that I was on. It was in the lobby. So they all just start that I worked at the movie theater, which I thought was very cute. It’s really cute. And then and then, yes, a few

Years later, I think when he was 15, he finally put it all >> A father of 2 of the 53 year-old drug has been a favorite fates on movie posters since his breakout role in the 1995 classic Lewis. >> It seems to me from the outside youth kept who you are.

What advice would you give to an actor who’s trying to make it in your business? I don’t know. I mean, I think there’s as far as I was trying to make it in any business. There’s no one way. I certainly learned that that it there. It’s

All different ways and you can eventually achieve your goals and the way you achieve your goal. It’s not going to happen the way you might think it would. But I would say that the the one thing that is importance to be a polite be on time. You nice to people.

I just think that that is the way it should always be matter what you do. I’ve been certainly lucky enough to work with some of the most successful people in this industry who have had amazing careers. I mean, I’m doing it right now. I’m on only murders building.

>> Wright is a guest star on the upcoming 3rd season of the Hulu murder Mystery playing alongside Steve Martin Martin Short and Selena Gomez and now. >> Now I do think it could get a little bit better. I had in the award-winning icon Meryl Street.

>> Martin Short and Steve Martin. Yeah, that’s Mount Rushmore. I mean, truly a hero worship. So to get to work with them was I mean, I still kind of can’t believe it solely night door. I’ve worked with her a couple times and she’s the

Greatest. And then when their street was on board just didn’t seem real. It’s still the same. What is that set like? Is it the way we hope it is? Which is funny and add Libyan all the things. Yeah, yeah, it’s just well. I’ve only worked on it a couple of days and,

You know, to just to be around them that dynamic. I mean, you’ve spent time with Steve Martin and Martin Short together. Yeah, it’s hilarious. It’s just a constant insults at to hear that just kind of to to, you know, to just hear them kind of knock each other. But there’s so much

Love between those 2 guys like you did door each other crazy about each other. And it’s just so fun to have a front row seat to all of that. It is fun to sit back and watch the thing that you watch from a distance up close like that. I mentioned,

I do. You still have this must be one of them sort of like a pinch me thing where you grew up watching. These guys looked up to me were symptoms you said and now they’re taking their cues from you in a scene. It’s s surreal.

Doesn’t even cover it. And it’s for one thing. I want to feel that way when you’re acting with somebody. I mean, when the script is kind of there and you’re you’re, you know, you’re acting, you’re in a scene with somebody. It’s a little easier. Just kind of forget about it because

You’re in the senior the character and you have a bit more freedom, your bit more relaxed, weirdly, too kind of interact with these people. It’s when, you know, you’re just kind of hanging out in the green light, waiting is doing a lighting set up and just, you know, talking and to just

Find myself and I’m saying regular conversation, you know, I witness to like what we’re talking about a comedy show happening, you know, spontaneously, right in front of it between just these brilliant guys get, you know, making jokes. It’s it’s it’s a it’s it nonstop. Pitch me moment. I’m pinching myself. Good luck tonight.

Good luck is a curse that did it. I know that they say don’t meet your heroes. I’ve met many of my heroes. I’d say almost all of them have exceeded my expectation. And I think if you want to have any kind of longevity, people don’t want to be

Put down or anything like that that people, people who are people who are pleasant to be around and if you are rude, people are. >> A little dimmer are. And >> once you stumble you might not get another shot because people just think, oh, that person said I would. So any

Actor would say it was starting off. It’s like, you know, you’re not bigger than anybody else in a bigger the project nobody cares about. You don’t buy and just show up and do your job. I’m so happy to hear you say that because it’s not my experience to the people who

Have succeeded. People with long deputy are not character there for the team. They lift up people below them to help them along. Yeah. And it’s also I think they have the the insecurity that they have had as sort of fallen away but with who they are, right. And they don’t feel like they

Have to do that. Yeah, you’re right with the I mean, we’ve seen it across industries where somebody slips up and no one is there to catch him because of the way they treated people, right? Yeah, it’s a good way to

Be. It’s just a good way to be also and life life is so hard. He wants to be around. Yes hits. I’m almost done with this. By the way of somebody would get hop to it and fill this up. Maybe I can finish this

Interview. Turn on the romantic music now to match up topped couple more drinks. Congratulations on and and can’t wait to see murders. Only murders. Thank you. Thanks for joining us. Thank you for putting into all of this work. By the way,

It was worth it. It I know you’re a busy guy. I mean, years and a lot of plates that you would come in to this bar. I skipped work this morning. >> So it’s okay. Was that as well? It certainly put me in. I can

>> Guys thanks for doing this are happy to see you told just got caught up last night and throughout the so for yes. So much fun, I’m watching it now and my wife of 1412 year-old wow so Steve taking back to the sort of genesis of

The show the idea for it where it came from at what point

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